blue_gold_84 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mark F said: glad it was easy, didnt waste much of your time. here is some more information. update, another five minutes of searches. Trudeau trying harder newer information. Investing as much as C$3.2 billion over 10 years to plant two billion trees Spending as much as C$631 million over a decade to restore and enhance wetlands, peatlands, grasslands and agricultural lands Investing C$1.5 billion in a low-carbon and zero-emissions fuels fund to increase the production and use of clean fuels A new Net Zero Accelerator innovation fund of C$3 billion over five years “to rapidly expedite decarbonization projects with large emitters” Not at all a waste of time. I just felt it necessary to point out there are things being done by the feds, even if it's likely not enough at this stage in the game. Too little, too late seems to be the mantra for humanity as a whole when it comes to managing crises on this planet and climate change is no exception. Collectively, we're reactive way more often than we're proactive - it explains a lot of the state of the world.
Tracker Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 Trudeau is under the impression that if he tosses token spending at Alberta, they will stop whining and snarling at him and maybe even vote Liberal. Fat chance. JCon, Mark F and blue_gold_84 3
Mark F Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Collectively, we're reactive way more often than we're proactive - it explains a lot of the state of the world. agree. re what to do..... I would like to see direct investment in renewable energy, start with alberta,help for oil worker who,lose jobs, train them in the new energy technology. build it. its cheaper now anyway. as a powerf source. figure out each provinces best renewable potential.... and concentrate on that on that place. help needed for all workers who face job,lossmcause of changes like this. they need and should get help from the government. certainly they wont get any from the big corps. who,will treat their workers as they treat their abandoned wells.
JCon Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 You can't look at spending across one department. Infrastructure has renewable energy, Natural Resources, etc. all have pieces of the renewable energy. And, some of it is Provincial jurisdiction. Skills development is one piece, for sure.
blue_gold_84 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/derek-sloan-expel-caucus-result-1.5880171 Quote Conservative MPs today voted to expel Derek Sloan from caucus after the eastern Ontario MP accepted a donation from a notorious white nationalist. Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole initiated the ouster earlier this week after news emerged that Paul Fromm — whose ties to white supremacist and neo-Nazi causes have long been documented — had contributed $131 to Sloan's leadership campaign. Sloan fought against the vote, saying he was unaware of the source of the donation because Fromm used his full name, Frederick P. Fromm. Conservatives voted by secret ballot today, with the majority of MPs voting to remove Sloan from their benches. In a statement issued this afternoon, O'Toole called the donation the "last straw." "The Conservative caucus voted to remove Derek Sloan not because of one specific event, but because of a pattern of destructive behaviour involving multiple incidents and disrespect towards the Conservative team for over a year," he said. "These actions have been a consistent distraction from our efforts to grow the party and focus on the work we need to do. Events of the past week were simply the last straw and led to our caucus making the decision it did today." A smart decision. Good riddance. Bigblue204 and Mark F 2
Tracker Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark F said: agree. re what to do..... I would like to see direct investment in renewable energy, start with Alberta, help for oil workers who lose jobs, Train them in the new energy technology. build it. its cheaper now anyway. as a power source. Figure out each provinces best renewable potential.... and concentrate on that on that place. Help is needed for all workers who face job losses because of changes like this. they need and should get help from the government. Certainly they wont get any from the big corps. who, will treat their workers as they treat their abandoned wells. The PC's in Alberta would have a hard time philosophically with federal money coming into "their" province. If Alberta can get past that, any credit they will give to federal Liberals will be very short-lived- about 20 minutes, I figure. Mark F 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 8 hours ago, Tracker said: Trudeau is under the impression that if he tosses token spending at Alberta, they will stop whining and snarling at him and maybe even vote Liberal. Fat chance. %^&* Trudeau. That always feels good to say that here in Alberta. 8 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/derek-sloan-expel-caucus-result-1.5880171 A smart decision. Good riddance. He made his own bed.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) Gonna need new Gov. General. TBH im seeing undiagnosed bi-polar. Edited January 21, 2021 by FrostyWinnipeg
iHeart Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 well this might be the first time this has happened in my lifetime and with at least three years to go in her term, so who gets the job now?
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, iHeart said: well this might be the first time this has happened in my lifetime and with at least three years to go in her term, so who gets the job now? Should be no one. It's just a patronage job. Tracker and Noeller 2
JCon Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Should be no one. It's just a patronage job. Head of Government. The Queen's representative. Can't be no one.
Noeller Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 It's a completely ridiculous position, for sure, but still something that is (unfortunately) necessary with our current form of government. It's unbelievable that someone could **** up a job as easy as that one... Bigblue204, GCJenks, Tracker and 2 others 1 4
17to85 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 An appointed governor General is far superior to an elected position. Keep it apolitical so we avoid the **** show that is happening in the US. Same with the senate. Last thing we need is the gridlock that exists down there. Bigblue204 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, JCon said: Head of Government. The Queen's representative. Can't be no one. That's what a PM is for. Noeller and Bigblue204 1 1
rebusrankin Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 Strictly speaking while it is a ceremonial position, you need one under the current system. PM = Head of government, Monarch =Head of State, GG=Monarch's rep thus acts as Head of State.
GCJenks Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Noeller said: It's a completely ridiculous position, for sure, but still something that is (unfortunately) necessary with our current form of government. It's unbelievable that someone could **** up a job as easy as that one... It really just shows how selfish she was. Her actions should qualify her as the most American of any of our government or political leaders. Shouldn’t have been allowed to resign, likely keeps a massive pension but should have been fired for cause. rebusrankin, Noeller and blue_gold_84 3
JCon Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 34 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: That's what a PM is for. I don't think you understand. The PM can't do that. That's not allowed. You really want to open up the constitution? 33 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: Strictly speaking while it is a ceremonial position, you need one under the current system. PM = Head of government, Monarch =Head of State, GG=Monarch's rep thus acts as Head of State. Head of state, yes. Wasn't thinking. blue_gold_84 1
Bigblue204 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: That's what a PM is for. The PM does not represent the queen. They represent their party, who represent the people. 53 minutes ago, GCJenks said: It really just shows how selfish she was. Her actions should qualify her as the most American of any of our government or political leaders. Shouldn’t have been allowed to resign, likely keeps a massive pension but should have been fired for cause. What happened exactly? I read a brief article about a toxic work place but there were no details. blue_gold_84 1
17to85 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: That's what a PM is for. Then a pm with a majority is just a dictator.
Mark H. Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Then a pm with a majority is just a dictator. He already is. If a U.S. President had as much power as a Canadian PM with a majority, it would be an absolute disaster.
GCJenks Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 47 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: The PM does not represent the queen. They represent their party, who represent the people. What happened exactly? I read a brief article about a toxic work place but there were no details. I haven’t seen the final report but some of the prelim info was ugly. Human rights violations, abuse of staff and from the sounds of it financial improprieties worse than we have seen before and we’ve seen some ridiculous ones already. Bigblue204 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 3 hours ago, JCon said: You really want to open up the constitution? Yes, if it means getting rid of the separatists. 2 hours ago, 17to85 said: Then a pm with a majority is just a dictator. Canada's always been like that. Majority in parliament, you can do what ever you want.
Tracker Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Yes, if it means getting rid of the separatists. Canada's always been like that. Majority in parliament, you can do what ever you want. Every country seems to have a minority who feels aggrieved and wants to run away (figuratively) and be their own country. Human nature, I guess that the grass is always greener elsewhere.
JCon Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Yes, if it means getting rid of the separatists. The only thing holding us together is this legal document and some vague notion of nationality. You open it up and everything falls apart. blue_gold_84, Noeller and Tracker 1 2
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