Canadian Politics

[SpeedFlex27]

The leaders of this occupation should be thrown in jail on charges of sedition & treason. But they won't because we're too polite.

[SpeedFlex27]

7 hours ago, Tracker said:

Apparently, the protesters at the Lege have had new reinforcements added today. Getting them out of there is becoming more difficult by the day.

That's the problem. They won't get rid of them. Police are useless. No one can't tell me that they aren't getting their marching orders from provincial governments. That is a lie. Politicians are interfering in policing. 

[Tracker]

[blue_gold_84]

[Mark H.]

4 hours ago, JCon said:

Just make him the leader of the party, already. 

This is who Rex and the CPC want JT to "negotiate" with. 

 

Ok, I seriously had no idea he was that stupid.  He actually sounds completely sincere.

[TrueBlue4ever]

16 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Ok, I seriously had no idea he was that stupid.  He actually sounds completely sincere.

By the way, his disability is an amputated leg. He claimed he lost it when he served in Afghanistan. When a quick check revealed he’d never served, he quickly retracted his lie. As it turns out, he was working as a labourer and fell off a roof, breaking his leg. Rumours that he was drunk at the time have not been verified, but he did not properly care for the break, and after it became infected his leg was amputated. He now says he works as a health and safety officer but there is nothing g to show he ever completed the required training, and he himself says he does not work. Of course, he has been collecting disability cheques ever since from the very same government he so loudly decries as oppressive. 

Edited February 18, 2022 by TrueBlue4ever

[Fatty Liver]

2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

The leaders of this occupation should be thrown in jail on charges of sedition & treason. But they won't because we're too polite.

Tamara Lich has been arrested.

 

David Cochrane

 

@DavidWCochrane

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Convoy organizer Tamara Lich was arrested Thursday evening by Ottawa police and also remains in police custody. Both she and Chris Barber - who was arrested earlier - are expected to be charged criminally, according to sources.

 

[Tracker]

Hacked convoy data shows more than half of donations came from U.S.
 

 A hack of the crowdfunding site GiveSendGo revealed the names and details of people who donated money to the protest. (Lars Hagberg/Reuters)
Although Canadians gave more money than Americans, more than half of the donations to the convoy protest made through the crowdfunding website GiveSendGo came from the United States, an analysis of hacked data from the site reveals.

[JCon]

The police have begun operations to clear downtown Ottawa. Let's hope for a peaceful resolution to this occupation. 

[17to85]

You know what this whole thing has really shown? People have no ******* clue what is meant by the right to peaceful protest. Peaceful protest doesn't mean non-violent. It means not breaking the peace, aka not breaking the law! It is most certainly against the law to block roads and such... so why the **** didn't the boys bust these assholes up from the get go?

[JCon]

2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

You know what this whole thing has really shown? People have no ******* clue what is meant by the right to peaceful protest. Peaceful protest doesn't mean non-violent. It means not breaking the peace, aka not breaking the law! It is most certainly against the law to block roads and such... so why the **** didn't the boys bust these assholes up from the get go?

As much as it would have disgusted me, if they had just gone and camped on the front lawn of the Parliament building, without trying to disrupt the daily lives and businesses of Ottawans (???), they could have camped their until spring. But, when they went after the people of Ottawa, that was over the line. The racist stuff is just to be expected from them. 

[the watcher]

4 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

You know what this whole thing has really shown? People have no ******* clue what is meant by the right to peaceful protest. Peaceful protest doesn't mean non-violent. It means not breaking the peace, aka not breaking the law! It is most certainly against the law to block roads and such... so why the **** didn't the boys bust these assholes up from the get go?

Funny, I've just been taking stock of the misconceptions and ignorance . It's another pandemic. No seems to know :

- What the Charter of rights and freedoms really says

-What freedom in a society means

 - the difference between want / desire and right

- whether you like a particular leader or not is inconsequential.  They were elected by our democracy.

- What a Nazi is. In particular that neither our current PM Trudeau or our previous PM Harper are or were Nazis

- What an Anglo- Saxon is , or the history of them.

- That there are no real  " pure races "  

- Lastly , history. There seems to be an amazing lack of knowledge about  the history of the world, from ancient to recent.

 

 

 

 

[Tracker]

It seems to me that the police and politicians completely misjudged the degree of organization and the amount of committment by the occupiers. This was likely due to the "Candianishness" of our collective mindset.  The same thing happened in Washington on 1/6 and many Americans still cannot fathom that this was an organized , well-funded deliberate attmpt to overthrow the government and capture or kill as many disliked politicians (including VP Mike Pence) as possible.  If it had nor been for their own ineptness and lack of tactical discipline, they might have succeeded. 

The occupiers in Canada do not seem to have been quite as millitant. They somehow hoped/expected to force the government to give in to their demands and then resign, allowing the idiots to set up some sort of provisional government as dictated by them. Had the governments and police moved quickly to oust them, it would have collapsed quickly, but the dithering and tacit support of the politicians and police made a situation that was potentially bad, worse. 

So far, we have not seen bloodshed, but the delays in clearing the protesters have given them an increased sense of righteousness and support by large numbers of Canadians. 

Edited February 18, 2022 by Tracker

[FrostyWinnipeg]

4 hours ago, JCon said:

The police have begun operations to clear downtown Ottawa. Let's hope for a peaceful resolution to this occupation. 

But I invested in batons!

 

[blue85gold]

2 hours ago, JCon said:

As much as it would have disgusted me, if they had just gone and camped on the front lawn of the Parliament building, without trying to disrupt the daily lives and businesses of Ottawans (???), they could have camped their until spring. But, when they went after the people of Ottawa, that was over the line. The racist stuff is just to be expected from them. 

Exactly, these occupiers have no clue. They have a right to protest peacefully just like everybody else. Trucks don't have a right to protest. Commercial vehicles don't have a right to protest. 

[johnzo]

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

. so why the **** didn't the boys bust these assholes up from the get go?

leadership in Ottawa was unprepared. Ottawa is a really sleepy town.  it wasn't until the convoy was locked in downtown that they realized how ****** they were. They were justifiably freaked out about the idea of truck bombs or dead kids, they didn't want to be responsible for Canadian Waco or Oklahoma City. They were hoping the goobers would go home on their own.

[johnzo]

Even now in the crackdown, the cops' tactics have been gentle.  Repeated warnings, ticketing, financial penalties, arrests of key people, and leaving the insurrectionists an escape route.  No teargas, no LRADs, not a lot of baton swinging.

Those crackers are in Ottawa trying to get their heads busted, they have provoked the population relentlessly. 

(This is funny because Ottawa is the least confrontational place in the world.  It makes Seattle look like the Bronx.)

They wanted to show the world that the tyranny they imagine is backed up by actual jackbooted new world order cops.  That'll legitimize them, bring in more believers and more marks. When they were controlled nonviolently -- like when they were blockaded in at Billings Bridge and Riverside -- they are helpless.

I think the authorities' working theory is that this is a fringe movement that won't be popular in Canada, but it could go more mainstream if people get sympathetic to it, and scenes of good honest canadian whiteboys and their kids getting kicked around by evil NWO cops is a great way to build that sympathy and legitimacy in their target audience.

Edited February 18, 2022 by johnzo

[blue_gold_84]

Three "leaders*" down.

* piles of bigoted, ignorant, cowardly scum

And he throws his arrest up on social media:

The insecurity and conceitedness of this loser...

Edited February 18, 2022 by blue_gold_84
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[JCon]

22 hours ago, iHeart said:

ugh how many times do I have to tell twitter to not have the interim conservative party leader of Canada trend under entertainment as this is not the woman that played Murphy Brown

 

[Mark F]

22 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

The insecurity and conceitedness of this loser...

moved to vancouver island a few years ago.

 

there is an entitlement mentality here that I just didnt see in Manitoba.

a guy got drunk, drove his car into a tree, killed his kids, but not himself, and a day later theres a go fund me asking for help for the guy, this actually just happened.

 

people think its okt to ask for anything, gasoline, a car, accomodation, food clothes, you name it. " I have five kids, two dogs, need at least two thousand sq feet with a yard, can only afford 400 a month cause unemployed, can anyone help"

not exagerrating.

 

the sense of entitlement is astonishing. Goes hand in hand with the  loser anti vaccine freedom 

 

needless to say, miles long "convoy " here every saturday.

 

Edited February 18, 2022 by Mark F

[WildPath]

33 minutes ago, johnzo said:

Even now in the crackdown, the cops' tactics have been gentle.  Repeated warnings, ticketing, financial penalties, arrests of key people, and leaving the insurrectionists an escape route.  No teargas, no LRADs, not a lot of baton swinging.

Those crackers are in Ottawa trying to get their heads busted, they have provoked the population relentlessly. 

(This is funny because Ottawa is the least confrontational place in the world.  It makes Seattle look like the Bronx.)

They wanted to show the world that the tyranny they imagine is backed up by actual jackbooted new world order cops.  That'll legitimize them, bring in more believers and more marks. When they were controlled nonviolently -- like when they were blockaded in at Billings Bridge and Riverside -- they are helpless.

I think the authorities' working theory is that this is a fringe movement that won't be popular in Canada, but it could go more mainstream if people get sympathetic to it, and scenes of good honest canadian whiteboys and their kids getting kicked around by evil NWO cops is a great way to build that sympathy and legitimacy in their target audience.

This is because these exact same people, the organizers and the spineless politicians that have backed them, have advocated for violence against other protestors.

[Sard]

31 minutes ago, Mark F said:

moved to vancouver island a few years ago.

 

there is an entitlement mentality here that I just didnt see in Manitoba.

a guy got drunk, drove his car into a tree, killed his kids, but not himself, and a day later theres a go fund me asking for help for the guy, this actually just happened.

 

people think its okt to ask for anything, gasoline, a car, accomodation, food clothes, you name it. " I have five kids, two dogs, need at least two thousand sq feet with a yard, can only afford 400 a month cause unemployed, can anyone help"

not exagerrating.

 

the sense of entitlement is astonishing. Goes hand in hand with the  loser anti vaccine freedom 

 

needless to say, miles long "convoy " here every saturday.

 

But heaven forbid we have a socialist government that "gives handouts to the poor"

[johnzo]

More self-contradictory nonsense from the National Post.  Not gonna link because **** giving them traffic.

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has utterly destroyed any claim to be a “uniter,” both here and abroad, with his deliberately pugilistic “swastika-waver” rhetoric aimed not just at the blockaders but at anyone who dares question his invocation of the Emergencies Act...  A Maru Public Opinion poll published Thursday found 82 per cent of Canadians agreed with the statement, “There is no way that this protest in Ottawa should’ve gone on as long as it has.” Support for that statement bottomed out regionally in Alberta, where “only” 77 per cent agreed.

He's not a uniter.  He's just got 82% of Canadians backing his approach.

23 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

The dichotomous image of Trudeau speaks to their collective stupidity. On the one hand, he's a feckless leader with no influence as a politician in any capacity, who "can't even win a popular vote," hides in his cabin, and is afraid to have discussions with them and their misguided, ignorant, essentially braindead ilk; on the other, he's a power-thirsty authoritarian fascist hellbent on taking away rights and freedoms and will stop at nothing to destroy the country with his leftist/marxist/communist agenda.

Pick a ******* lane.

it's a total fascist play to portray your enemies as both strong enough to be terrifying but weak enough to be defeatable.  It's a line they walk.  Umberto Eco described it:

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Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak." On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.

 

[HardCoreBlue]

7 minutes ago, johnzo said:

More self-contradictory nonsense from the National Post.  Not gonna link because **** giving them traffic.

He's not a uniter.  He's just got 82% of Canadians backing his approach.

it's a total fascist play to portray your enemies as both strong enough to be terrifying but weak enough to be defeatable.  It's a line they walk.  Umberto Eco described it:

 

I've never been good at math but I'm sure better at it than these knuckledraggers.

[blue85gold]

1 hour ago, johnzo said:

They wanted to show the world that the tyranny they imagine is backed up by actual jackbooted new world order cops.  That'll legitimize them, bring in more believers and more marks. When they were controlled nonviolently -- like when they were blockaded in at Billings Bridge and Riverside -- they are helpless.

I think the authorities' working theory is that this is a fringe movement that won't be popular in Canada, but it could go more mainstream if people get sympathetic to it, and scenes of good honest canadian whiteboys and their kids getting kicked around by evil NWO cops is a great way to build that sympathy and legitimacy in their target audience.

They absolutely want to become martyrs. They want the cops to get violence so they can claim to be victims. Why else would they put their kids out in front of them and dare the cops to do something. Disgusting cowards.