Canadian Politics

[JCon]

37 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/conservatives-accuse-pm-trudeau-of-uttering-expletive-in-heated-house-exchange-1.5888853

This is comical. What pitiful pearl clutching by the CPC, especially after members proudly supported the Covidiot Clown Convoy with their F*ck Trudeau flags. Lousy hypocrites.

They proudly support Trump and are worried about the f-word? 

[WildPath]

2 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/conservatives-accuse-pm-trudeau-of-uttering-expletive-in-heated-house-exchange-1.5888853

This is comical. What pitiful pearl clutching by the CPC, especially after members proudly supported the Covidiot Clown Convoy with their F*ck Trudeau flags. Lousy hypocrites.

I can only imagine how frustrating it must be to be engaged in parliamentary debates when members opposite push conspiracies and misinformation. During the last election when Trudeau was subject to some really nasty abuse on campaign stops you could tell he was extremely frustrated. I'd imagine most politicians expect to encounter resistance and policy criticisms, but when you're being criticized based on conspiracy, that's gotta be another level.

I know of nothing other than the story posted above, but his response seems to confirm that he said it. That is unfortunate as the CPC will love getting under his skin and will likely continue to resort to the same tactics in the future if that works.

[Bigblue204]

I would actually become a Trudeau fan if he came out to a press conference and said something like "They can worry about the F word all they want, I got more important **** to do."

[Wideleft]

 

 

[JCon]

Priorities. 

 

 

[Mark H.]

^^ typical Twitter.  I'm sure many of the comments on his post are more of the same...priorities

[blue_gold_84]

That debate last night... 

[HardCoreBlue]

13 hours ago, Mark H. said:

^^ typical Twitter.  I'm sure many of the comments on his post are more of the same...priorities

I'm unclear what you mean here?

[Bigblue204]

1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said:

That debate last night... 

I didn't watch it and I haven't seen any clips. But this is basically most peoples take on it. Must have been quite the show.

[Mark H.]

3 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I'm unclear what you mean here?

That posts like his tend to get flooded with comments from people who are anti-mandate, etc.

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[the watcher]

On 2022-05-05 at 11:31 AM, WildPath said:

I can only imagine how frustrating it must be to be engaged in parliamentary debates when members opposite push conspiracies and misinformation. During the last election when Trudeau was subject to some really nasty abuse on campaign stops you could tell he was extremely frustrated. I'd imagine most politicians expect to encounter resistance and policy criticisms, but when you're being criticized based on conspiracy, that's gotta be another level.

I know of nothing other than the story posted above, but his response seems to confirm that he said it. That is unfortunate as the CPC will love getting under his skin and will likely continue to resort to the same tactics in the future if that 

It not uncommon. Especially if they have held power for a lengthy period. And it happens regardless of political stripe. The " very scary " and " secret agenda " campaigns against Harper aren't alot different. Neither is the Conservatives continual fear tactics that  NDP government will institute massive tax hikes. I don't like it but it is pretty common. 

[GCn20]

17 minutes ago, the watcher said:

It not uncommon. Especially if they have held power for a lengthy period. And it happens regardless of political stripe. The " very scary " and " secret agenda " campaigns against Harper aren't alot different. Neither is the Conservatives continual fear tactics that  NDP government will institute massive tax hikes. I don't like it but it is pretty common. 

Boogeyman politics have been in play against every acting government and opposition for many years. Conspiracy theories are nothing new. The NDP in this province has been telling us their is a secret agenda to sell Manitoba Hydro for 30 years now. I find it humorous that the same people who complain Trudeau, or the NDP, are victims of right wing conspiracy theories are often the same ones telling us that the CPC or their provincial counterparts will set up private insurance based health care, and will sell off crown corporations and privatize the public sector services.  Let's face it, while political ideologies differ between the right and left most of each sides supporters are a lot closer to centre than either side is willing to admit and neither side is as extreme as what the diehard supporters and back room political strategists will repeatedly tell us. 

On 2022-05-05 at 11:48 AM, Bigblue204 said:

I would actually become a Trudeau fan if he came out to a press conference and said something like "They can worry about the F word all they want, I got more important **** to do."

That would be awesome for sure.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-conservative-leadership-race-world-economic-forum/

[FrostyWinnipeg]

MPs debate Bloc motion to scrap reading of daily prayer before House of Commons sits

[WildPath]

1 hour ago, the watcher said:

It not uncommon. Especially if they have held power for a lengthy period. And it happens regardless of political stripe. The " very scary " and " secret agenda " campaigns against Harper aren't alot different. Neither is the Conservatives continual fear tactics that  NDP government will institute massive tax hikes. I don't like it but it is pretty common. 

I think there is quite a big difference between pointing out the extremes of another party's political policy and outright disinformation like Trudeau is party of a WEF attempt to make people zombies through vaccine mandates. A lot of the extremely vocal anti-Trudeau crowd are that way because they believe wild things that just don't have any basis. Many citizens, regardless of where they place their vote, may be against Trudeau. The ones that disrupt campaign stops and do not allow him to speak are something else entirely.

Saying the Manitoba PCs are trying to privatize hydro at least has some basis in reality. They sold off MTS (look how that turned out) and have already sold off parts of hydro. Privatization is kind of their thing.

[JCon]

5 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

MPs debate Bloc motion to scrap reading of daily prayer before House of Commons sits

That would be good. 

 

1 minute ago, WildPath said:

I think there is quite a big difference between pointing out the extremes of another party's political policy and outright disinformation like Trudeau is party of a WEF attempt to make people zombies through vaccine mandates. A lot of the extremely vocal anti-Trudeau crowd are that way because they believe wild things that just don't have any basis. Many citizens, regardless of where they place their vote, may be against Trudeau. The ones that disrupt campaign stops and do not allow him to speak are something else entirely.

Saying the Manitoba PCs are trying to privatize hydro at least has some basis in reality. They sold off MTS (look how that turned out) and have already sold off parts of hydro. Privatization is kind of their thing.

A lot of Cons got rich. They're looking to get some more money in their pockets with Hydro too. 

[blue_gold_84]

55 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

The NDP in this province has been telling us their is a secret agenda to sell Manitoba Hydro for 30 years now.

The NDP has made mention of the privatization of Manitoba Hydro because the Filmon PCs did so with MTS in 1996 after being adamant they wouldn't privatize it. Manitobans ahve been paying for that mistake ever since.

It's not a conspiracy theory for an opposition to express concerns regarding the privatization of a crown corporation based on actual history.

[JCon]

They started by neutering the Hydro board. Then they dismantled PUB and their powers. 

It's a step by step plan to reduce ties to gov't and remove it entirely from the GRE. Next step will be to say that the debt is insurmountable and the only way to save "tax payers" is to sell it off. 

Rinse, repeat. Just like MTS. 

[17to85]

Privatization of crown corps is something that conservatives have done in the past and always a possibility.  It is well worth continuing to ask about that.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

Privitization of Hydro would be pretty devesatating but I'd like to see auto insurance public/private. 

[JCon]

Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Privitization of Hydro would be pretty devesatating but I'd like to see auto insurance public/private. 

Oh, god no. NO, no, no. 

I had to live with it in Ontario and it's godawful. 

[the watcher]

45 minutes ago, WildPath said:

I think there is quite a big difference between pointing out the extremes of another party's political policy and outright disinformation like Trudeau is party of a WEF attempt to make people zombies through vaccine mandates. A lot of the extremely vocal anti-Trudeau crowd are that way because they believe wild things that just don't have any basis. Many citizens, regardless of where they place their vote, may be against Trudeau. The ones that disrupt campaign stops and do not allow him to speak are something else entirely.

Saying the Manitoba PCs are trying to privatize hydro at least has some basis in reality. They sold off MTS (look how that turned out) and have already sold off parts of hydro. Privatization is kind of their thing.

So have I missed that the Cons have said that in the house brecause it would indeed be idiotic. But the years of Harper has a hidden agenda fit in exactly to my point. There was no hidden agenda, he was very upfront about his policies, like them or not. And that is disinformation.  Just like when Trudeau was running against Andrew Sheer ( weasel that he was ) it was widely promoted that Sheer spoke at a rally with the leader of the far right  yellow vesters. It was BS.  It was outright disinformation. Its done by all parties unfortunately. 

[Noeller]

9 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Privitization of Hydro would be pretty devesatating but I'd like to see auto insurance public/private. 

let me tell you about life in Alberta with private home and auto insurance, where the government removed the cap on how much they're allowed to charge..... it's gone through the roof the last two or three years. Privatization is not the "competition will lower prices" thing that people expect it to be.

[Wideleft]

8 minutes ago, the watcher said:

So have I missed that the Cons have said that in the house brecause it would indeed be idiotic. But the years of Harper has a hidden agenda fit in exactly to my point. There was no hidden agenda, he was very upfront about his policies, like them or not. And that is disinformation.  Just like when Trudeau was running against Andrew Sheer ( weasel that he was ) it was widely promoted that Sheer spoke at a rally with the leader of the far right  yellow vesters. It was BS.  It was outright disinformation. Its done by all parties unfortunately. 

If Harper hadn't lost so many Supreme Court challenges, you'd be whistling a different tune.

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/08/10/Harper-Abuses-of-Power-Final/