Canadian Politics

[GCn20]

26 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

The Liberal Party doesn't have the same funds or party apparatus as the other two parties so JCon's point about being able to focus on one race versus 57 is legit.

Southern Manitoba will vote PC no question but I think other ridings outside Winnipeg are in play. Winnipeg decides it and if polling holds, the PCs are going to do poorly in Winnipeg. Terrible numbers in Winnipeg and woman voters especially dislike them.

The NDP isn't exactly flush with cash either. There are very few rural areas in play for the NDP. The PCs are still polling very strong in almost all the rural not just Southern Manitoba. This will come down to whether the NDP can gain enough seats in Winnipeg to form government and who gets their vote out the most effectively. There is almost certainly going to be voter apathy in the core of the PC party, and if the NDP can get their vote out then we will see a new government. There are a handful of seats where the split vote has to be a huge concern for the NDP. How they handle those seats will be huge.

[Mark H.]

1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

I cannot see there being more than 2-3 seat gain for the NDP in the rural...they are absolutely reviled outside the perimeter.

Interlake, Gimli, Selkirk, Brandon - any of those will be in play for the NDP. The have a long history of being swing ridings.  And of course, the North is a given.  Especially Selkirk and Gimli.  They are former NDP strongholds.

[HardCoreBlue]

1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://globalnews.ca/news/9348321/danielle-smith-alberta-sovereignty-indian-act-comments/

A common problem? No. Not even close. What a woefully stupid human she is.

DS truly believes she is the smartest person in the room.
 

Now that she’s no longer able to hide behind her radio show microphone She’s finding out otherwise.

[GCn20]

1 minute ago, Mark H. said:

Interlake, Gimli, Selkirk, Brandon - any of those will be in play for the NDP. The have a long history of being swing ridings.  And of course, the North is a given.  

Interlake is not in play. Take that to the bank. Johnson is very well liked and when the constituency was redrawn a few years ago it took the reserves out and placed a bunch of the former Lakeside (Harry Enns country) into it.  Gimli too was redrawn and includes heavy swaths of Interlake mennonite country now. Unlikely to move. Selkirk could swing, maybe one of the Brandon ridings, and possibly Swan River. These are the only possible rural gains to be had for NDP. The North....yea...that's a given. Ashton was hated in Thompson and that opened the door briefly for Bindle...but he did nothing with his opportunity and the USW will make sure it stays orange. 

[Mark H.]

17 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Interlake is not in play. Take that to the bank. Johnson is very well liked and when the constituency was redrawn a few years ago it took the reserves out and placed a bunch of the former Lakeside (Harry Enns country) into it.  Gimli too was redrawn and includes heavy swaths of Interlake mennonite country now. Unlikely to move. Selkirk could swing, maybe one of the Brandon ridings, and possibly Swan River. These are the only possible rural gains to be had for NDP. The North....yea...that's a given. Ashton was hated in Thompson and that opened the door briefly for Bindle...but he did nothing with his opportunity and the USW will make sure it stays orange. 

There were plenty of NDP votes coming out of Gimli, Winnipeg Beach et. al. when Peter Bjornson had the Gimli riding

I used to live in that riding but I'm in Selkirk after the redraw

Bjornson used to win by several thousand votes (his last election might have been around 1000), he never lost until he retired from politics

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/wellington-sparks-street-safety-security-control-ottawa-parliament-1.6686747

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Federal security oversight of Parliament Hill should expand to include Wellington and Sparks streets, according to Liberal MPs who sit on a House of Commons committee studying parliamentary security after last winter's convoy protest.

The Liberals say a land transfer should take place between the City of Ottawa and the federal department in charge of public services, which would allow the street in front of the hill — Wellington — and the pedestrian street one block south of it — Sparks — to become part of the parliamentary precinct.

Conservatives disagree with the recommendations and say politicians should not be in charge of security.

That's a change of tone from 2015 — after the shooting on Parliament Hill — when the Conservative government led by then-prime minister Stephen Harper pushed through changes to hand over control of Parliament Hill security to the RCMP.

 

[GCn20]

2 hours ago, Mark H. said:

There were plenty of NDP votes coming out of Gimli, Winnipeg Beach et. al. when Peter Bjornson had the Gimli riding

I used to live in that riding but I'm in Selkirk after the redraw

Bjornson used to win by several thousand votes (his last election might have been around 1000), he never lost until he retired from politics

Yep but both Gimli and Interlake were redrawn with large pockets of NDP support moving with them.

[JCon]

2 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/wellington-sparks-street-safety-security-control-ottawa-parliament-1.6686747

 

It's odd that we haven't already done this. 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

First time I heard this. 

Elections Manitoba said next year’s election, to be held on or before Oct. 3, will be the first provincial election to use electronic voting machines similar to the ones used for several years by the City of Winnipeg during municipal elections.

[Mark H.]

1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

Yep but both Gimli and Interlake were redrawn with large pockets of NDP support moving with them.

Winnipeg Beach and Gimli are still in the Gimli-Interlake riding - those are substantial population centres. 

[GCn20]

4 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Winnipeg Beach and Gimli are still in the Gimli-Interlake riding - those are substantial population centres. 

Bjornson was immensely popular in Gimli/Beach areas, well known in community politics and as a school teacher before that. Gimli, especially, is usually strongly PC and the NDP would place well south of Gimli. Now the majority of the constituency is Gimli and rural North and that is heavy mennonite country all through there. Gimli will be a good race. Interlake...there is zero chance of an NDP win. The Liberals finished ahead of the NDP there....and not by a small margin either.

[Mark H.]

1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

Bjornson was immensely popular in Gimli/Beach areas, well known in community politics and as a school teacher before that. Gimli, especially, is usually strongly PC and the NDP would place well south of Gimli. Now the majority of the constituency is Gimli and rural North and that is heavy mennonite country all through there. Gimli will be a good race. Interlake...there is zero chance of an NDP win. The Liberals finished ahead of the NDP there....and not by a small margin either.

Interlake - Gimli is the same riding now.  The old Gimli riding had a long history of swinging back and forth, it was not just Bjornson's popularity. We will see what happens 

[SpeedFlex27]

On 2022-12-14 at 10:29 AM, Bigblue204 said:

Your generation will **** up. Previous generations always do. The generations that come after you will insult your generation's short sightedness & general lack of intelligence compared to them. You'll be old dinosaurs whose opinion means nothing. Too bad I won't be around to see it.

[Wideleft]

14 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Your generation will **** up. Previous generations always do. The generations that come after you will insult your generation's short sightedness & general lack of intelligence compared to them. You'll be old dinosaurs whose opinion means nothing. Too bad I won't be around to see it.

[basslicker]

On 2022-12-13 at 12:11 PM, Wideleft said:

Head over here and you tell me you can't find enough for a much better cabinet than we have now (I know - low bar).  It is a diverse group with a variety of work, educational, community organizing and many with significant government experience.

https://www.mbndp.ca/ourteam

One with a Masters in Education

One with a Masters in Public Administration

One with a PhD in Natural Resources.

2 small business owners

1 University Professor (Chemistry & Physics)

7 teachers

1 Labour Activist

2 Lawyers

2 School trustees

1 Author/Musician/Journalist

3 former FN Chiefs

1 Paramedic

1 Youth Correctional Officer/Counsellor

2 Nurses

1 Co-founder of  Families of Murdered & Missing Indigenous Women

1 U of M Student Union President

1 Singer/Songwriter

1 Corp experience in Financial and Ag sector

1 Business Exec

Sitting MLA's include the first Black man, the first First Nations Woman and the first non-binary elected

 

Yeah no thanks on the bolded and as for the last comment, who cares what they are, I care who they are.  The colour of your skin doesn't make you more or less suited for a position.

[17to85]

2 minutes ago, basslicker said:

Yeah no thanks on the bolded and as for the last comment, who cares what they are, I care who they are.  The colour of your skin doesn't make you more or less suited for a position.

Why? A diverse background for a government isn't a bad thing. Can't all be lawyers, that's not going to represent the public well.

[Wideleft]

1 hour ago, basslicker said:

Yeah no thanks on the bolded and as for the last comment, who cares what they are, I care who they are.  The colour of your skin doesn't make you more or less suited for a position.

So you think Community Wellness Minister Sarah Guillemard, with no higher education or relevant work experience (if any) is doing so great because of "who she is"?

https://www.brandonsun.com/local/2022/12/10/b-c-government-injects-truth-into-manitoba-officials-account-of-drug-site-visit

As for your "no thanks on the bolded", you actually have a problem with someone with a Masters in Public Administration being a member of government?

Edited December 16, 2022 by Wideleft

[SpeedFlex27]

7 hours ago, Wideleft said:

The thing is, we don't know how people will think in 30 or 50 years. Society may take a hard turn to the right or left. Then the  reaction may be how could YOUR generation have gone that far or not far enough on social issues. As well as how governmant is expected to act. Whatever it is, the generational sentiment will likely change. 

[HardCoreBlue]

5 hours ago, Wideleft said:

So you think Community Wellness Minister Sarah Guillemard, with no higher education or relevant work experience (if any) is doing so great because of "who she is"?

https://www.brandonsun.com/local/2022/12/10/b-c-government-injects-truth-into-manitoba-officials-account-of-drug-site-visit

As for your "no thanks on the bolded", you actually have a problem with someone with a Masters in Public Administration being a member of government?

In the same breath throwing out tribalism as a criticism. 

[Noeller]

Like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of Albertans lives......... 

 

 

[JCon]

The poor unvaxxed. Never has there been a population so entitled and whiny. Now, they have an advocat for them. Maybe she will terrorize more people on their behalf so that the unvaxxed can have more time to come up with conspiracy theories. 

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.ndp.ca/news/ndp-calls-out-liberals-plan-privatize-rail-and-put-profits-ahead-interests-passengers

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OTTAWA – Today, NDP Transport Critic Taylor Bachrach (Skeena—Bulkley Valley) and Tax Fairness and Inequality Critic Niki Ashton (Churchill—Keewatinook Aski) called out the Liberals for pushing forward their plan to privatize the passenger rail service between Toronto and Quebec City which will make life more expensive for Canadian commuters. The Liberals appointed former SNC Lavalin Lawyer, Robert Prichard, to an arm's length subsidiary of Via Rail whose job will be to prioritize the interests of wealthy CEOs involved in building the passenger line between Quebec City and Toronto.

“Canada is fortunate to have VIA Rail, a Crown Corporation with a proven track record that Canadians depend on to travel across the country,” said Bachrach. “Instead of building on this proud legacy, the Liberals seem intent on handing over VIA’s busiest corridor and the bulk of its passenger revenue to private interests —putting profits ahead of the interests of passengers. This is wrong. The Liberals are making decisions on transit based on the interests of the rich and powerful, not everyday Canadians. People deserve better.”

 

[Mark H.]

^^ Liberals governing like Conservatives...par for the course 

[Noeller]

 

 

[Wideleft]

10 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

 

Also consider that Angus Reid polls are generally favorable to the Conservatives.