bigg jay Posted March 24, 2023 Report Posted March 24, 2023 37 minutes ago, Wideleft said: Nope, nope, nope. The Agencies have not confirmed anything as far as I've read (and I could be wrong at this second). The sources are unnamed "whistleblowers". Again, the stated motivation to delay the Michaels' release makes zero sense, but I'm more than willing to follow the evidence as it builds/crumbles. So far, this is not passing the smell test for me. Keep in mind, just because it was ran past the Global lawyers prior to publishing, they often advise on wording rather than the actual veracity of the story. Also keep in mind that according to many on the right of the political spectrum, mainstream media cannot be trusted so why should we believe them now? Can't have it both ways... Tracker, HardCoreBlue, blue_gold_84 and 2 others 3 2
HardCoreBlue Posted March 24, 2023 Report Posted March 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, bigg jay said: Also keep in mind that according to many on the right of the political spectrum, mainstream media cannot be trusted so why should we believe them now? Can't have it both ways... Because I only believe what I want to hear. bigg jay, Noeller, blue_gold_84 and 2 others 1 4
blue_gold_84 Posted March 24, 2023 Report Posted March 24, 2023 Just now, HardCoreBlue said: Because I only believe what I want to hear. Some jackwagon at CSIS leaked sensitive info a media outlet and a Liberal MP chose to resign. Wideleft 1
Wideleft Posted March 24, 2023 Report Posted March 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Some jackwagon at CSIS leaked sensitive info a media outlet and a Liberal MP chose to resign. Resigned from caucus - not his seat. And he voted for the public inquiry. 11 minutes ago, bigg jay said: Also keep in mind that according to many on the right of the political spectrum, mainstream media cannot be trusted so why should we believe them now? Can't have it both ways... I'm a strong believer in journalism and the press, but not naive enough to realize that some (looking at you Post Media) are troublesome. It says a lot to me that not even Post Media is jumping all over this. bigg jay, blue_gold_84, Noeller and 1 other 4
HardCoreBlue Posted March 24, 2023 Report Posted March 24, 2023 16 hours ago, Bigblue204 said: I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're saying... I will say...it 100% is voluntary. No one is making anyone (all things being equal) live in this country. If you're volunteering to live in a country, then you are required to play by that countries rules. Join that illustrious club. 🙂 I'm not talking about voluntary living in this Country. Come, go do whatever you want to do. I'm saying that enjoying the freedoms and individual rights that we have as Canadians come with responsibilities we have to others and to our environment. I love how some people gloss over, wave away, ignore civic responsibility like it's just an aside and think the only issue here is my rights, my freedoms. Tracker, Bigblue204, Fatty Liver and 2 others 3 1 1
JCon Posted March 24, 2023 Report Posted March 24, 2023 9 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Two national security agencies confirmed this story according to Global. That this meeting was held in secrecy. It also says that the PMO only became aware of the conversation a couple of days ago. Dong admitted to having a conversation with Chinese Consul General Han. Didn't admit it was about the two Michaels. Dong should be in jail awaiting trial. In jail for what? It's not a crime to meet with diplomats. They do it regularly. Wideleft, Noeller and blue_gold_84 3
blue_gold_84 Posted March 24, 2023 Report Posted March 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: I love how some people gloss over, wave away, ignore civic responsibility like it's just an aside and think the only issue here is my rights, my freedoms. It often seems like the ones who do are those who are blinded by their own privilege, entitlement, and ignorance. Section 1 of the Charter seems lost on way too many people. Bigblue204, Wideleft, JohnnyAbonny and 3 others 6
HardCoreBlue Posted March 24, 2023 Report Posted March 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: It often seems like the ones who do are those who are blinded by their own privilege, entitlement, and ignorance. Section 1 of the Charter seems lost on way too many people. And they will read posts like this with glee, smirking away thinking they've triggered the libtards, radical leftists, socialists and communists. Tracker and Noeller 1 1
Fatty Liver Posted March 24, 2023 Report Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said: It often seems like the ones who do are those who are blinded by their own privilege, entitlement, and ignorance. Section 1 of the Charter seems lost on way too many people. Most of these statements seem to be made by people who have already benefited economically over their lifetime from the stability of the country and government they seem to loath. They fail to acknowledge that younger citizens and immigrants on their way up should also have access to the same opportunities stable government provides. In my estimation this attitude stems from greed and selfishness as a base motivation that often seems to be derived from an increased sense of prosperity. Poorer people tend not to adopt the attitude of disgruntled shitbags. Edited March 24, 2023 by Fatty Liver JCon, HardCoreBlue, blue_gold_84 and 3 others 5 1
Tracker Posted March 24, 2023 Report Posted March 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Wideleft said: Nope, nope, nope. The Agencies have not confirmed anything as far as I've read (and I could be wrong at this second). The sources are unnamed "whistleblowers". Again, the stated motivation to delay the Michaels' release makes zero sense, but I'm more than willing to follow the evidence as it builds/crumbles. So far, this is not passing the smell test for me. Keep in mind, just because it was ran past the Global lawyers prior to publishing, they often advise on wording rather than the actual veracity of the story. Agreed about the dubiousness of the entirety of the report. That the Chinese embassy chose to "leak" it to the least trustworthy news network in Canada with the most right-wing bias sets off alarm bells. Noeller 1
HardCoreBlue Posted March 24, 2023 Report Posted March 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Most of these statements seem to be made by people who have already benefited economically over their lifetime from the stability of the country and government they seem to loath. They fail to acknowledge that younger citizens and immigrants on their way up should also have access to the same opportunities stable government provides. In my estimation this attitude stems from greed and selfishness as a base motivation that often seems to be derived from an increased sense of prosperity. Poorer people tend not to adopt the attitude of disgruntled shitbags. I like this. I'm going to borrow this but will cite you. 🙂 Noeller, Fatty Liver, blue_gold_84 and 2 others 4 1
17to85 Posted March 24, 2023 Report Posted March 24, 2023 46 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Most of these statements seem to be made by people who have already benefited economically over their lifetime from the stability of the country and government they seem to loath. They fail to acknowledge that younger citizens and immigrants on their way up should also have access to the same opportunities stable government provides. In my estimation this attitude stems from greed and selfishness as a base motivation that often seems to be derived from an increased sense of prosperity. Poorer people tend not to adopt the attitude of disgruntled shitbags. Losing privilege feels like oppression. Can sum up so many of the "issues" people have these days. Tracker, HardCoreBlue, WildPath and 4 others 3 4
blue_gold_84 Posted March 27, 2023 Report Posted March 27, 2023 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/han-dong-lawyer-1.6792114 Quote MP Han Dong says he has retained a lawyer and plans to sue Global News after it published a story alleging he advised a senior Chinese diplomat in February 2021 that Beijing should hold off on freeing Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor — the two Canadians being held by China at the time. Dong, who left Liberal caucus last week, confirmed to Global that he had a discussion with Consul General Han Tao but emphatically denied that he had advised Beijing to delay releasing the two Canadians. On Friday, the Globe and Mail reported that the government received a CSIS transcript of Dong's conversation with the consul and concluded that there was no "actionable evidence," adding that it could not be determined that Dong asked the Chinese government to keep the two Canadians in prison for political reasons. In a statement posted to Twitter Monday, Dong said he has a lawyer to "begin legal action to its fullest extent." The Don Valley North MP said he supports a public inquiry into Chinese government interference and said he is willing to meet with former governor general David Johnston, the government's recently appointed special rapporteur on foreign interference, and provide him with information. Tracker 1
Mark H. Posted March 27, 2023 Report Posted March 27, 2023 Alrighty - how about some more CPC tweets - about how many questions they asked? Crickets. Time to bring up hotel room expenses - maybe golden toilets Noeller and Tracker 1 1
Noeller Posted March 29, 2023 Report Posted March 29, 2023 This woman is out of control and wildly unfit to lead a province.... blue_gold_84, Tracker and JCon 1 1 1
blue_gold_84 Posted March 29, 2023 Report Posted March 29, 2023 Speaking of unfit: What. The. Actual. ****. Noeller 1
Noeller Posted March 29, 2023 Report Posted March 29, 2023 this is the UCP that have a very good chance of winning re-election because "well, it's still better than Notley....because reasons!" Just wildly unfit to govern, yet the population of this province......................woof. JCon 1
HardCoreBlue Posted March 29, 2023 Report Posted March 29, 2023 45 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Speaking of unfit: What. The. Actual. ****. Are these the same people and their disgruntled shitbag supporters who yell and scream about government overreach? Noeller, JCon, Fatty Liver and 1 other 2 2
Tracker Posted March 29, 2023 Report Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said: Speaking of unfit: What. The. Actual. ****. If memory serves, this is the same politician who was exposed as lying about a lot of educational and work credentials, yet was re-elected.
Fatty Liver Posted March 29, 2023 Report Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Noeller said: this is the UCP that have a very good chance of winning re-election because "well, it's still better than Notley....because reasons!" Just wildly unfit to govern, yet the population of this province......................woof. Good luck. blue_gold_84, Tracker, HardCoreBlue and 1 other 4
Noeller Posted March 29, 2023 Report Posted March 29, 2023 latest polls (as of this morning) have the UCP ahead by about 5 points... it'll all come down to Calgary.
rebusrankin Posted March 30, 2023 Report Posted March 30, 2023 PCs are here for Maniotbans. See their mailer this week. blue_gold_84 and Tracker 2
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 30, 2023 Report Posted March 30, 2023 On 2023-03-24 at 8:03 AM, JCon said: In jail for what? It's not a crime to meet with diplomats. They do it regularly. Not if he told the Chinese official not to release the two Michaels. We'll see, I guess.
JCon Posted March 30, 2023 Report Posted March 30, 2023 3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Not if he told the Chinese official not to release the two Michaels. We'll see, I guess. That is the most ludicrous thing. Why would they want the Michaels held longer? It's stupid. Tracker and blue_gold_84 2
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 30, 2023 Report Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JCon said: That is the most ludicrous thing. Why would they want the Michaels held longer? It's stupid. Like it was reported, To stop the Conservatives from looking good. Is it true? If it is, it will be a huge scandal. If not, the reporter's career is over. Edited March 30, 2023 by SpeedFlex27
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