Canadian Politics

[blue_gold_84]

https://globalnews.ca/news/9703502/jennifer-johnson-transphobic-alberta-election/

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The Alberta NDP is calling for the resignation of a UCP candidate after it released an audio recording from last fall where she is heard making transphobic comments.

Lacombe-Ponoka candidate Jennifer Johnson was speaking at a forum last September about the public school system versus homeschooling.

In the recording, Johnson can be heard saying Alberta’s high test scores don’t matter because some students are transgender.

“It does not matter that we’re in the top three per cent of the world. Who cares if they got 89 per cent in Chemistry 30? Who cares that they’re entering post-secondary — if they’re chemically castrated?” she said in the recording.

Johnson went on to compare a handful of transgender students in the school system to mixing a teaspoon of feces into a batch of baked goods.

 

“‘Enjoy (the cookies), I only put a teaspoon of poop in them, but it doesn’t matter because it’s only a teaspoon in the whole batch,'” she is heard saying.

“Same idea — we can be top three per cent, but that little bit of poop is what wrecks it.”

The UCP released a statement on Johnson’s behalf, in which she said the comments were based on what she saw parents experiencing in the U.S., and that Alberta is “quite different.”

Ghastly humans in that political party.

[JCon]

Just now, blue_gold_84 said:

https://globalnews.ca/news/9703502/jennifer-johnson-transphobic-alberta-election/

Ghastly humans in that political party.

That's a cornerstone of the modern right. Hate, bigotry, fascism. 

[HardCoreBlue]

19 minutes ago, JCon said:

That's a cornerstone of the modern right. Hate, bigotry, fascism. 

Countered with yea but everyone's bad followed up by I'm tired and embarrassed in hearing all of this bickering back and forth between different 'viewpoints' therefore minimizing the danger of hate, bigotry and fascism and in effect legitimizing it as just another perspective to be treated with respectful dialogue. 

[Tracker]

26 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Countered with yea but everyone's bad followed up by I'm tired and embarrassed in hearing all of this bickering back and forth between different 'viewpoints' therefore minimizing the danger of hate, bigotry and fascism and in effect legitimizing it as just another perspective to be treated with respectful dialogue. 

The media is also complicit in this by not calling out the racism, homophobia, fascism, gynophobia and intolerance when these rear their ugly heads. What's worse, is that these cretins are a symptom of a creeping disease that seems to be taking over at least Alberta politics but is also present in many other parts of Canada. The federal liberal party is trying to come to grips about how to stop this without infringing on freedom of speech. A tough call.

[HardCoreBlue]

4 minutes ago, Tracker said:

The media is also complicit in this by not calling out the racism, homophobia, fascism, gynophobia and intolerance when these rear their ugly heads. What's worse, is that these cretins are a symptom of a creeping disease that seems to be taking over at least Alberta politics but is also present in many other parts of Canada. The federal liberal party is trying to come to grips about how to stop this without infringing on freedom of speech. A tough call.

Yup and at the street level I'm really annoyed and frustrated with people who think they are rising above the fray and label everyone as tired and embarrassing and mean and nasty and just can't we go back to respectful dialogue.  

If you haven't noticed we're not debating the merits of different political platforms (health, crime, housing etc) requiring respectful dialogue and a level of appropriate decorum.

Stop clumping reacting to dangerous absurdness and the back and forth that results as just another example of how everyone is mean and nasty and 'I'll have none of it'.

We all have a level of responsibility to take care of one another when met with dangerous absurdness or it won't work.   

 

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/blaikie-confidence-prorogation-analysis-wherry-1.6845378

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Some of the basic rules of Canadian democracy exist not as laws or regulations, but as unwritten conventions. That's supposed to be a feature, not a bug — a way of allowing for a useful degree of adaptability and flexibility. 

But perhaps a few things would be better off written down.

"To have a lack of clarity around these issues that are so central to the proper functioning of our democracy is to invite the kind of toxic debates and intractable disputes that we see too often now in western democracies," NDP MP Daniel Blaikie told the House of Commons last week.

"The way to defend this is to seek the maximum amount of clarity before we are in a crisis."

Blaikie has tabled a motion in the House of Commons that would put some big things in writing — most importantly, the confidence convention.

Under his motion, the standing orders of the House — the rules by which the House governs its own business — would be amended to require an explicit vote of confidence either before or immediately after Parliament is prorogued. 

In theory, that might force a prime minister to think twice before walking over to Rideau Hall. And the guarantee of a confidence vote offers some assurance that a government won't escape judgment.

When Blaikie opened debate on his motion last Friday, he led with the issue of prorogation — perhaps for a good reason. Questionable uses of prorogation in 2008, 2010 and 2020 have turned what should be a relatively benign procedure into a source of controversy.

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/johnston-meets-party-leaders-china-1.6846235

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Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has declined to meet with the government's special rapporteur on foreign interference, citing an inability to find a mutually convenient time, a spokesperson for Poilievre said Wednesday.

Poilievre has mocked Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's decision to appoint former governor general David Johnston to look into the matter of foreign interference, calling it nothing more than a delay tactic to avoid calling a public inquiry and describing Johnston as Trudeau's "neighbour, family friend and ski buddy."

The prime minister has decried criticisms of Johnston as "horrific, partisan attacks against a man of extraordinary integrity."

Poilievre has also cited Johnston's past work with the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation, named after the prime minister's father, as evidence Johnston is ill-suited for the role.

Still, Poilievre's director of media relations, Sebastian Skamski, said the Opposition leader's office has complied with an email request for information about any past experiences with potential foreign interference.

Those experiences are limited, given that Poilievre has only been Opposition leader for a matter of months and hasn't yet led the party in a general election, said the spokesperson.

Typical. Nothing but excuses.

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Johnston is set to make a call on a public inquiry into foreign election interference by next Tuesday, along with other recommendations. The government has said it will abide by all of his decisions. 

[JCon]

What a clown he is. There is nothing redeemable about that terrorist sympathizer. 

[17to85]

4 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://globalnews.ca/news/9703502/jennifer-johnson-transphobic-alberta-election/

Ghastly humans in that political party.

She is one of the take back alberta candidates. Pretty sure anyway. These are the types of people they want running the province.

[blue_gold_84]

7 minutes ago, JCon said:

What a clown he is. There is nothing redeemable about that terrorist sympathizer. 

Every. Accusation. Is. A. Confession.

Canada isn't broken. Conservatives are.

[JCon]

Just now, 17to85 said:

She is one of the take back alberta candidates. Pretty sure anyway. These are the types of people they want running the province.

They just pick up the hate rhetoric they used against other groups and apply it elsewhere. They just shifted from immigrants and Muslims, to LGBTQ2S+. It's just the Hate-du-jour for the right. 

[17to85]

7 minutes ago, JCon said:

They just pick up the hate rhetoric they used against other groups and apply it elsewhere. They just shifted from immigrants and Muslims, to LGBTQ2S+. It's just the Hate-du-jour for the right. 

Oh I don't know that they've shifted anything. Pretty sure they're still riding the hate express with regards to immigrants and Muslims too. If we could tap into their hate as an energy source we'd have unlimited energy.

[JCon]

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

Oh I don't know that they've shifted anything. Pretty sure they're still riding the hate express with regards to immigrants and Muslims too. If we could tap into their hate as an energy source we'd have unlimited energy.

Oh, I'm certain too, it's just not their prime hate-du-jour. Same with  indigenous, the hate is always there, but they're not rallying around it. 

Everything in a cycle. They'll get bored and distracted by some other shiny thing to hate and they'll move on. 

[HardCoreBlue]

Just now, JCon said:

Oh, I'm certain too, it's just not their prime hate-du-jour. Same with  indigenous, the hate is always there, but they're not rallying around it. 

Everything in a cycle. They'll get bored and distracted by some other shiny thing to hate and they'll move on. 

Just to beat the horse I'm riding today to death, if one reacts to this ongoing hate then one risks getting clumped into being hateful as well.

 

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

12 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Oh I don't know that they've shifted anything. Pretty sure they're still riding the hate express with regards to immigrants and Muslims too. If we could tap into their hate as an energy source we'd have unlimited energy.

[Noeller]

Just now, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

I was thinking ARC reactor, but this works too....

[Fatty Liver]

23 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

She is one of the take back alberta candidates. Pretty sure anyway. These are the types of people they want running the province.

Yep.

[HardCoreBlue]

7 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://globalnews.ca/news/9703502/jennifer-johnson-transphobic-alberta-election/

Ghastly humans in that political party.

EDMONTON — A United Conservative Party candidate who compared transgender children in schools to having feces in food is apologizing while staying on to run in the Alberta election.

Jennifer Johnson says in a statement that she has nothing but love and compassion for everyone equally and is embarrassed to have caused hurt with her remarks.

Johnson, who is running in Lacombe-Ponoka, says if she wins the seat in the May 29 vote she will seek counsel on how best to communicate and meaningfully discuss her views.

 

The NDP has called for UCP Leader Danielle Smith to dismiss Johnson as a candidate for the comments she made last fall that were recently been made public.

In those comments, Johnson said Alberta has a first-rate education system but it's set against transgender children as young as 14 getting double mastectomies and chemical castrations to help them transition.

Johnson also compared transgender students to feces in cookie batter.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published May 17, 2023.

The Canadian Press

The bolded sentence caught my attention. One way to interpret that is, to her, it's not the drivel she spews is the problem, it's how she spews her drivel is the problem. Nope I think the drivel no matter how articulate and smooth you package it (see Danielle Smith as a great example) is the actual dangerous problem.

[Noeller]

Without question, she doesn't feel her opinions are wrong.... she just thinks people are misinterpreting them. Absolute bullshit. She literally compared transgendered youth to pieces of ****. What an absolute ghoul. How is someone with opinions like this allowed to hold/run for office of any kind???

[17to85]

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

Without question, she doesn't feel her opinions are wrong.... she just thinks people are misinterpreting them. Absolute bullshit. She literally compared transgendered youth to pieces of ****. What an absolute ghoul. How is someone with opinions like this allowed to hold/run for office of any kind???

It's totally the "I'm sorry you are offended" apology and clearly think if she just explains it better people will agree. 

 

******* morons gonna wreck the whole province .

[WildPath]

Not only is she making a disgusting comparison, she's also dismissing the value of high academic standards.

[Mark F]

19 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Poilievre has mocked Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's decision to appoint former governor general David Johnston to look into the matter of foreign interference, calling it nothing more than a delay tactic to avoid calling a public inquiry and describing Johnston as Trudeau's "neighbour, family friend and ski buddy."

 

lol Poliviere. what a repulsive fool.  mocking an outstanding man David Johnson. 

little bit  

"Johnston has had a long academic career, during which he came to specialize in securities regulation, corporation law, public policy and information technology law.[2] After 1966, he worked for two years as an assistant professor at the Queen's University Faculty of Law and then joined the University of Toronto's law faculty, where he taught until 1974, eventually being promoted to the rank of full professor. Johnston was then appointed as dean of the University of Western Ontario Law School, serving between 1974 and 1979, at which time he was elevated to become the fourteenth Principal and Vice-Chancellor of McGill University."

far too much to post. 

Edited May 18, 2023 by Mark F

[17to85]

43 minutes ago, Mark F said:

 

lol Poliviere. what a repulsive fool.  mocking an outstanding man David Johnson. 

little bit  

"Johnston has had a long academic career, during which he came to specialize in securities regulation, corporation law, public policy and information technology law.[2] After 1966, he worked for two years as an assistant professor at the Queen's University Faculty of Law and then joined the University of Toronto's law faculty, where he taught until 1974, eventually being promoted to the rank of full professor. Johnston was then appointed as dean of the University of Western Ontario Law School, serving between 1974 and 1979, at which time he was elevated to become the fourteenth Principal and Vice-Chancellor of McGill University."

far too much to post.

A guy so well regarded Stephen Harper appointed him as Governor General.... yeah that guy ain't a partisan no matter how loudly Milhouse screams about it. 

[Noeller]

2 hours ago, WildPath said:

Not only is she making a disgusting comparison, she's also dismissing the value of high academic standards.

Alberta FEARS intelligent people. Intelligent people wouldn't vote for Take Back Alberta. Alberta loves people with less than high school graduation who've spent their lifetimes in the oil patch. Those are the people TBA and Conservative Alberta loves. 

[Mark H.]

1 hour ago, Mark F said:

 

lol Poliviere. what a repulsive fool.  mocking an outstanding man David Johnson. 

I have made a point of watching question period for a number of years.  The behaviour of the current group of Conservatives is ridiculous.