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On 2019-10-14 at 12:51 PM, Zontar said:

A coalition of Libs NDP and Greens..two of the three pretty much vowing to paralyze oil and gas production and pipelines....plus all the usual leftist tax and spend and social policies.

Canada's gonna  be awesome.

 

It looks like Elizabeth May did nothing but cement the image of a clueless socialist wingnut in voters minds. She's pretty much fallen off the radar since the English language debate. 

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On 2019-10-14 at 1:28 PM, Zontar said:

The deals Justin will have to make just so he can feed his ego and still call himself PM is, frankly, scary.

Won't pretend to understand how most western CDNs will feel .

Things will just be getting started out here if he forms even a minority government. 

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Western Canadians are looped in a self-fulfilling prophecy.  They vote like automatons for Conservatives, so the Conservatives take them for granted and they and the other parties spend their time and money looking for votes elsewhere.  Might work great for the Cons in provincial elections, but Jim Jones-like support for one party doesn't generate much real attention in Federal politics.

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On 2019-10-14 at 2:54 PM, rebusrankin said:

Or maybe he was just running low on gas.  Brian Lilley has written some hackey things, but this is pathetic.  Congratulations on sharing click-bait.

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On 2019-10-14 at 2:10 PM, SpeedFlex27 said:

In my riding there are no Liberal, NDP or Green signs. I have no idea who the candidates of these parties are or what their platforms are other than what I read & hear in the national media. No political pamphlets or info. My attitude? **** them. If they won't work to get any votes than I'll vote Conservative as my MP is the incumbent. 

Hot tip - your current MP is the incumbent every time, regardless of which party they represent.  Also, an informed voter is one who does a little legwork on their own - don't place all the blame on the other candidates if you don't know who they are.

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15 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Things will just be getting started out here if he forms even a minority government. 

I'm concerned that the Cons will have more seats than the Libs, but the Libs and NDP will form a coalition and we will be subject to some of the silliness Singh has said he wants in order to support the Libs.

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3 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

I was proud to work with Justin Trudeau as President. He's a hard-working, effective leader who takes on big issues like climate change. The world needs his progressive leadership now, and I hope our neighbors to the north support him for another term.

— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) October 16, 2019

 

Not sure this equals votes. It's nice on your resume tho.

Trump doing same for Scheer? Cringe.

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Bullet, meet foot.

United We Roll prepares for Greta Thunberg

"Environmental activist Greta Thunberg’s upcoming visit to Alberta has a central Alberta pro-energy group gearing up for its own rally as close as it can get to the Swedish teen.

“We’re going to continue to fight for Canadian energy until we get pipelines in the ground. And we’re going to rally against any climate activist who comes out and pretends they know more about our environment than we do in Alberta, about our oil and gas industry,” said Glen Carritt, who organized the United We Roll! Convoy for Canada! that travelled to Parliament Hill in February."

https://www.reddeeradvocate.com/news/united-we-roll-prepares-for-greta-thunberg/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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7 hours ago, Wideleft said:

Hot tip - your current MP is the incumbent every time, regardless of which party they represent.  Also, an informed voter is one who does a little legwork on their own - don't place all the blame on the other candidates if you don't know who they are.

Legwork?  May as well take a walk in the woods - it would be more productive.  Other than from the Conservative incumbent, there is literally no information available in my riding.  For example, they have nothing in the local store / coffee shop just up the road on PTH 9.  Their web pages are just a rehash of their leaders' talking points - basically a carbon copy created by the party. 

Local newspapers? Nothing. 

Signs? Hardly any.
 

 

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22 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

It looks like Elizabeth May did nothing but cement the image of a clueless socialist wingnut in voters minds. She's pretty much fallen off the radar since the English language debate. 

The Greens are ‘in play’ in about half a dozen ridings. About 1/3 of the ridings across the country are too close to call. 

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4 hours ago, Wideleft said:

I was proud to work with Justin Trudeau as President. He's a hard-working, effective leader who takes on big issues like climate change. The world needs his progressive leadership now, and I hope our neighbors to the north support him for another term.

— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) October 16, 2019

 

Endorses a feather weight clown but wont endorse his own vice president , Biden, or the only person of colour Booker. With friends like that. ...

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12 hours ago, Wideleft said:

Hot tip - your current MP is the incumbent every time, regardless of which party they represent.  Also, an informed voter is one who does a little legwork on their own - don't place all the blame on the other candidates if you don't know who they are.

Dude, I know who my incumbent politician is. But if the other parties don't want to earn my vote then I won't go searching out their platforms. I could very easily find out but I don't want to. 

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11 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Dude, I know who my incumbent politician is. But if the other parties don't want to earn my vote then I won't go searching out their platforms. I could very easily find out but I don't want to. 

Can't help thinking about the Know Nothing Party in the 1800's as I read that.

Maybe I'm weird, but when I vote, I'm trying to determine who will best govern the country and society and not make it about me.

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45 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

Can't help thinking about the Know Nothing Party in the 1800's as I read that.

Maybe I'm weird, but when I vote, I'm trying to determine who will best govern the country and society and not make it about me.

You don't consider which local candidate will best serve your riding?  Someone who is active in the local community vs. someone who is a complete unknown? 

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12 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Dude, I know who my incumbent politician is. But if the other parties don't want to earn my vote then I won't go searching out their platforms. I could very easily find out but I don't want to. 

The only thing I know about any candidate in my riding other than the Conservative is the Liberal was caught sending out mailers with outright lies about the Conservative. So yeah, really no chance I'd vote for someone like that even if the Conservative is a dink. 

I guess I've seen signs for the PPC candidate and all I can tell about him is he looks like the rich texan from the simpsons. 

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41 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

You don't consider which local candidate will best serve your riding?  Someone who is active in the local community vs. someone who is a complete unknown? 

That's definitely part of it, but that's not the whole thing.  I don't care how "great" a local citizen is if he's (yes he) going to support a government that wants to roll back women's rights or environmental regulations.  What appears to be a good person doesn't always make for a good politician.  On the flipside, I won't vote for A-holes either.

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A leading climate expert’s modelling of the Conservative climate plan shows emissions will rise, as the proposed tools are not proven to work.

"For over two decades I have evaluated promises by Canadian politicians to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. My work would be straightforward if a politician committed to a rising carbon price or to technology regulations of increasing stringency. Either of these policy approaches would transparently reduce GHG emissions by an amount we evaluators could reliably estimate, based on longstanding research showing how firms and individuals respond to changes in relative energy prices and emerging technological options for adopting low-GHG energy in buildings, transportation and the production of goods and services.

Unfortunately, Canadian politicians have rarely implemented the essential carbon pricing and/or regulatory policies. Instead, they offer lists of activities and programs that are either silent on policy or suggest that non-compulsory policies, like information campaigns or subsidies, will cause significant reductions – which is not the case. The Conservative Party’s proposed climate plan fits this pattern, and my modelling suggests it would ultimately result in increased GHG emissions between 2020 and 2030."

"I limit this evaluation to one metric: GHG reduction. The Conservative Party has emphasized that its climate plan saves money for Canadians. This might be true, but it is important for Canadians to know whether the reason is because the plan does not reduce emissions. A plan that has little effect on emissions might well have lower energy costs. In this case, however, one would expect an honest politician to say, “My climate plan allows GHG emissions to keep rising so that energy costs do not.”"

https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/august-2019/emissions-will-rise-under-conservative-climate-plan/

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