JCon Posted August 18, 2020 Report Posted August 18, 2020 Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said: Im in the underground Carr for PM movement. A Liberal PM from the West (MB, SK, AB)? Underground indeed. Goodale probably had the best chance of anyone in the past twenty years. Axworthy before that (but that was pretty slim). Maybe someone from BC? I have not heard an update on Carr's health? How has he been doing?
blue_gold_84 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-party-leadership-results-1.5695925 Quote Results of the Conservative leadership race have been delayed by several hours because the machine used to open ballot envelopes damaged several thousand voting cards. The technical glitch left four candidates vying for the party's top job in limbo. Former Conservative deputy leader and leadership campaign co-chair Lisa Raitt said the ballots, which were mailed in in a sealed envelope inside another envelope, are being opened automatically. "What's been happening is the machine is ripping or cutting some of these ballots," she said. Up to 4,000 ballots that were damaged are either taped back together or are manually remarked on a new ballot. Scrutineers from all camps view the ballot and agree on the result, so there is no risk of the integrity being compromised, Raitt said.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: "What's been happening is the machine is ripping or cutting some of these ballots," she said. Encroyable! blue_gold_84 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 Erin O'Toole wins Con election.. Lewis a strong third.
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 Huh... oh well, I thought Makay would have been a much better match up against Trudeau Noeller 1
17to85 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 Goes to show the so-cons run that party. Sad news. I already like O'toole better than scheer though. His speech had good moments but still too much mention of liberals and trudeau. They won't win simply not being liberal. blue_gold_84 1
blue_gold_84 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 You'd think by now these candidates would have actual, thoughtful, concrete solutions to all these problems in Ottawa caused by the Leftist Bogeyman since 2015. This supposedly prosperous vision for Canada remains virtually unknown or at best, very unclear. Scheer suggesting the CPC is "in great shape" smacks of delusion to me. His comments about challenging the leftist elites, the mainstream media and its left-wing bias were also comical and very Trumpesque. His departure should be seen as a win and O'Toole would benefit distancing himself and the party from such a tired, petulant, and ridiculous narrative. All of which is to say nothing of the technical issues yesterday. What happened is a bad look in itself for a party who prides itself on managerial competence. JCon and Tracker 2
JCon Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 O'Toole ran to the right when the campaign started. He's far more moderate than Scheer was. He's from Montreal and holds and important Toronto seat. I think you can expect a very Bay Street focused platform from the CPC. But, holy geez, Scheer whining about the left wing media? They have the Sun, National Post and Globe and Mail as mainstream right wing publications and he thinks the right gets bad press? Yikes. blue_gold_84, Tracker and Fred C Dobbs 2 1
Noeller Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 Anytime I see people whining about left-wing bias in "mainstream" media, I roll my eyes so hard it hurts. If the Con's want to get elected, they have to find a way to come back toward the middle, rather than going further to the right. Staunch social conservatism just seems so anti-Canadian. Canada has always been a (relatively speaking) socially progressive nation. There is nothing wrong with tightening budgets a bit and being smart with our money, but when you start talking about anti-abortion stuff, and not accepting Pride Day and things like that......that's just so wildly un-Canadian, to me. blue_gold_84, JCon, Tracker and 2 others 1 4
FrostyWinnipeg Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 37 minutes ago, JCon said: O'Toole ran to the right when the campaign started. He's far more moderate than Scheer was. He's from Montreal and holds and important Toronto seat. I think you can expect a very Bay Street focused platform from the CPC. But, holy geez, Scheer whining about the left wing media? They have the Sun, National Post and Globe and Mail as mainstream right wing publications and he thinks the right gets bad press? Yikes. I thought Otoole was a Trump clone? Tracker 1
JCon Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said: I thought Otoole was a Trump clone? Not before the campaign. He went pretty hard right to capture a big piece of Scheer's support. He was far more PC just 12 months ago. We'll see if heads back to the middle. Noeller 1
17to85 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, JCon said: Not before the campaign. He went pretty hard right to capture a big piece of Scheer's support. He was far more PC just 12 months ago. We'll see if heads back to the middle. Yeah a friend of my wifes who has worked for MPs in Ottawa over the years said that the guy who ran for leadership is different than the guy who was an MP. So here is hoping he was just trying to win and will drag the party kicking and screaming towards the middle. Noeller, Fred C Dobbs and JCon 3
17to85 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Noeller said: Anytime I see people whining about left-wing bias in "mainstream" media, I roll my eyes so hard it hurts. If the Con's want to get elected, they have to find a way to come back toward the middle, rather than going further to the right. Staunch social conservatism just seems so anti-Canadian. Canada has always been a (relatively speaking) socially progressive nation. There is nothing wrong with tightening budgets a bit and being smart with our money, but when you start talking about anti-abortion stuff, and not accepting Pride Day and things like that......that's just so wildly un-Canadian, to me. The problem for Social Conservatives is that reality has a left wing bias in their minds. JCon and Noeller 1 1
rebusrankin Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 Its fine to be socially conservative. Its fine to push for that as a politician. However if you do, you have to accept the fact that you're never going to form government federally. Tracker 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 Lewis is in a fine spot to take over for O'Toole. Just needs to learn French. rebusrankin 1
rebusrankin Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 Apparently Alberta is looking to build a rail line between Calgary and Edmonton.It made this pop into my head:
17to85 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, rebusrankin said: Apparently Alberta is looking to build a rail line between Calgary and Edmonton.It made this pop into my head: It's been talked about by some for a long time, but call me skeptical it will ever happen. I don't forsee it being used enough. The drive isn't so long and once you get to either city you kinda want to have a car to get anywhere. Noeller and JCon 2
FrostyWinnipeg Posted August 26, 2020 Report Posted August 26, 2020 3 hours ago, rebusrankin said: Apparently Alberta is looking to build a rail line between Calgary and Edmonton.It made this pop into my head: And then we'll have people in Calgary complaining about people from Edmonton in town and vice-versa.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted August 30, 2020 Report Posted August 30, 2020 https://montreal.citynews.ca/video/2020/08/29/john-a-macdonald-statue-beheaded/ https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/jason-kenney-asks-montreal-to-send-toppled-sir-john-a-macdonald-statue-to-alberta-1.5084727
SpeedFlex27 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) On 2020-08-25 at 4:53 PM, rebusrankin said: Apparently Alberta is looking to build a rail line between Calgary and Edmonton.It made this pop into my head: As an Albertan, I just want to say..... No freaking kidding. Instead of laughing we just cried at how bad the UCP government is. I voted for that POS Kenney. No way ever again. Meanwhile, it's the doctors fault we have a deficit in our province. Those evil bastards... It's not a monorail. It's a hyperloop. Totally enclosed so there is no friction caused by contact with the air so speeds of up to 1,000 kph can be reached. It's. A. Pipe. Dream. Supposedly the cost is $7 billion so we know by the time it would be finished iy would cost $14-15 billion. We seem to have money for that but no money for a safe start up to school. Edited August 30, 2020 by SpeedFlex27
iHeart Posted August 31, 2020 Report Posted August 31, 2020 so I'm not really sure where this would belong but man (btw this is just part of a long twitter thread) Wideleft 1
Mark H. Posted August 31, 2020 Report Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, iHeart said: so I'm not really sure where this would belong but man (btw this is just part of a long twitter thread) He has been leaning that way ever since the 2015 election. The Conservative stance on immigration and refugees at the time, seemed to shake his dyed in the wool Conservative foundations. JCon 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted August 31, 2020 Report Posted August 31, 2020 https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/conservative-mp-under-fire-for-tweet-with-anti-semitic-undertones-1.5085645 Tracker 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted August 31, 2020 Report Posted August 31, 2020 4 hours ago, iHeart said: so I'm not really sure where this would belong but man (btw this is just part of a long twitter thread) Time to retire, Charles. JCon 1
iHeart Posted August 31, 2020 Report Posted August 31, 2020 you know it's funny, I told my dad about this yesterday and he was like "Really" then he kept telling me how he was "still voting conservative" and i told him about the long twitter thread he made 11 hours ago (at the time) yeah even I wonder what he'll do now
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