Canadian Politics

[Fatty Liver]

1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Here's the "response" from that useless pustule:

 

Milhouse comes of age and decides he wants to rule a country.

[Mark H.]

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

And afterwards, they all go out for drinks together. Lorne Nystrom (former MP) said that when he first stood and delivered criticism to the then-government minister, he was royally raked over the coals. After the session was over, said minister met him in the hallway and sort of apologized followed by an invitation for the rookie to come along for a couple of beers.

Yes, that's what I noticed when I spent a week at Parliament

Elizabeth May was best friends with several Conservative MPs

 

[Mark F]

mayor Gondek,of Calgary. 

“The cold reality is that we all know the deputy prime minister will be targeted again. We know I will be targeted again,” she said. “Women in media and politics often feel like we’re screaming into the void.”

And while condemnation of such verbal assaults is important, action is necessary, she said. Groups and individuals perpetuating hate should be identified and must face consequences.

“Expecting people to ‘be better’ is not enough anymore. Organized hate has to be rooted out and stopped through legislation. The justice system needs to protect people who are targeted. Listen to women who are telling you the law is not strong enough to protect us,” she said."

Edited August 30, 2022 by Mark F

[Tracker]

7 minutes ago, Mark F said:

mayor Gondek,of Calgary. 

“The cold reality is that we all know the deputy prime minister will be targeted again. We know I will be targeted again,” she said. “Women in media and politics often feel like we’re screaming into the void.”

And while condemnation of such verbal assaults is important, action is necessary, she said. Groups and individuals perpetuating hate should be identified and must face consequences.

“Expecting people to ‘be better’ is not enough anymore. Organized hate has to be rooted out and stopped through legislation. The justice system needs to protect people who are targeted. Listen to women who are telling you the law is not strong enough to protect us,” she said."

The hate groups are known here in Canada but legitimized by those who benefit from their support. 

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-investigating-freeland-1.6566633

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The RCMP says it's investigating after Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland was accosted in Alberta over the weekend by a man who repeatedly yelled profanity at her and called her a traitor.

If the threshold for a criminal charge is met, the RCMP or the police of jurisdiction may arrest and lay charges, Percival said. If the criminal threshold is not met, she said, the RCMP can still review the individual's comments "from an intelligence perspective."

At the time of the incident, Freeland — who was born in Peace River, about 200 kilometres from Grande Prairie — was on a multi-day tour of Saskatchewan and Alberta, meeting with officials, businesspeople and workers.

[HardCoreBlue]

36 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-investigating-freeland-1.6566633

Here, I’ll help.

Review persons of interest video of their encounter with Freeland.

Arrest persons of interest and charge as  appropriate to the rule of law.

With all the complexities involved in this investigation, this should take no more than 30 minutes to complete. The persons of interest did all the work for you.

[Mark F]

2 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Here, I’ll help.

I have experienced threats along those lines.... 

I was intimidated, and frightened. 

it is long past Time to stop pretending that that physical intimidation is just the exercise of the right to protest.

But Im not sure the rcmp will do much.  unless told to.

if a man  did to his wife, it would be an

instant, automatic, restraining order.

why is this less serious.

 

 

 

Edited August 30, 2022 by Mark F

[Tracker]

Yesterday on CBC radio they played the interview of the current mayor of Calgary, Jyoti Gondek for her reaction to the Freeland=Grande Prairie incident. She related an incident when she attended an all-candidates debate when running for the mayor's office. Just prior to the debate, as she was waiting in the hallway, a man came up to her, put his face right into hers and said that he knew where she lived and that he would never allow her to become mayor. She was rattled but went into the debate and di well enough to win, but this man sat in the front row the whole time staring at her radiating anger and hatred at her. She has received threats since winning, and every morning before she goes out, she checks out front before opening the door, sets her alarm and makes sure every window is closed and locked before leaving. When the internet outage happened a couple of months ago, her alarm system did not work, so she stayed home. Apparently this sort of harassment is common for women in politics in Canada.

Very sad, but it takes only  small number of malicious idiots to create these sort of problems.

[blue_gold_84]

3 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Very sad, but it takes only small number of malicious, uninformed, intolerant, xenophobic, racist idiots to create these sort of problems.

FTFY

https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/trudeau-witness-trial-residential-school-1.6567428

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau could face a subpoena to testify as a witness during a trial scheduled to begin this month for a class-action lawsuit seeking reparations for the cultural devastation wreaked by residential schools, court records show. 

Lawyers representing 325 First Nations — more than half of all recognized First Nations in the country —  are seeking to subpoena Trudeau and Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Marc Miller to take the witness stand via Zoom and face questions on the sincerity of residential school-related statements they've made in the past.

These include statements by both Trudeau and Miller that Canada's policy on residential schools was to "assimilate."

"There appears to be a contradiction between what the prime minister has said publicly and the positions that Canada is taking in court," said shíshálh Nation Coun. Selina August.

 "We and the courts need to know what Canada's actual positions are." 

The shíshálh Nation and Tk'emlups te' Secwepemc initiated the legal action a decade ago. 

 

[GCn20]

1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said:

FTFY

https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/trudeau-witness-trial-residential-school-1.6567428

 

That is excellent. I wish all politicians could be subpoenaed to answer for their empty promises and platitudes.

[TrueBlue4ever]

16 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

That is excellent. I wish all politicians could be subpoenaed to answer for their empty promises and platitudes.

The courts would be jammed and only the lawyers would make any money. 

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-shuffles-liberal-cabinet-1.6567811

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau tweaked his cabinet Wednesday, swapping his procurement minister for his Ontario economic development minister. 

Filomena Tassi was moved out of the role of minister of public services and procurement and into the new role of minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario.

In a statement, Tassi said in the last year, her husband suffered two strokes, and her move came after she requested a lighter workload.

Taking Tassi's role at procurement is Helena Jaczek, who was moved up from her role in Ontario. 

In her new role, Jaczek will be responsible for overseeing the purchase of vaccines and personal protective equipment that have been critical to fighting back COVID-19 over the past two years. 

 

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[GCn20]

2 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

The courts would be jammed and only the lawyers would make any money. 

We should subpoena the lawyers too.

[Tracker]

Just now, GCn20 said:

We should subpoena the lawyers too.

That appears to be on the way. Trump's lawyer(s) attested in writing to the DOJ last April that Trump had turned over all relevant documents and they were obviously wrong or lying. Either way, it is an indictable offence in the US to lie to federal officers. And a conviction would result in disbarment as well. Double trouble. No wonder no credible lawyer wants to take on Trump as a client.

[GCn20]

3 minutes ago, Tracker said:

That appears to be on the way. Trump's lawyer(s) attested in writing to the DOJ last April that Trump had turned over all relevant documents and they were obviously wrong or lying. Either way, it is an indictable offence in the US to lie to federal officers. And a conviction would result in disbarment as well. Double trouble. No wonder no credible lawyer wants to take on Trump as a client.

I am hoping no credible voters will take him on as well. I just want an American president that inspires a little. The last two have been complete duds in that regard.

[Wideleft]

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/bank-of-canada-takes-to-twitter-to-set-record-straight-on-printing-money-claim-1.6049918

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OTTAWA - 

As the Bank of Canada tries to rein in red hot inflation, the central bank is engaging in another fight: one against misinformation.

In recent weeks, the central bank has been using social media to engage the public on the economy, explaining how inflation works and what it's doing to bring inflation back to its two per cent target. However, in its most recent Twitter thread, the bank went beyond explaining economics and took direct aim at a common attack levied against its policy decisions during the pandemic.

"#YouAskedUs if we printed cash to finance the federal gov't. We didn't," the Bank of Canada tweeted on Aug. 25, followed by a series of tweets refuting the claim.

Today's high inflation environment and the politicization of the central bank has led to a wider audience, with more Canadians concerned about rising interest rates and the high cost of living. Alongside this heightened interest has also come a level of distrust of the Bank of Canada's operations and a misperception that it printed money during the pandemic.

Conservative leadership front-runner Pierre Poilievre has been a loud critic of the Bank of Canada, vowing to fire Governor Tiff Macklem if he becomes prime minister. Poilievre has not explained how he plans to fire Macklem given the Bank of Canada Act does not provide the federal government with that power.

He's also repeatedly claimed that the central bank printed money to finance federal spending and therefore caused inflation.

However, the Bank of Canada and economists say that's not what happened.

"There's always been this expression of the bank printing money whenever they engage in these kinds of policies, but it's not actually what happens," said Jeremy Kronick, the director of Monetary and Financial Services Research at the C.D. Howe Institute.

The policy Kronick refers to is quantitative easing, a measure the Bank of Canada attempted to explain in a series of tweets.

While the Bank of Canada's motivation to speak directly with Canadians and justify its policies is understandable, Gordon says he's unsure how effective its efforts are given the central bank doesn't have much experience in this realm.

"They don't have nowhere near the media arsenal of the people who are trying to promote the wrong agenda. So, they're in some sense massively outgunned," he said.

A recent Angus Reid survey found 46 per cent of Canadians trust the Bank of Canada to fulfil its mandate, while 41 per cent said they don't. The survey found distrust was higher among people who had voted for the Conservatives or the Peoples Party of Canada.

Looking ahead, the Bank of Canada plans to expand its educational programming on the economy and the bank's role.

Two things here: I'm amazed (or perhaps disgusted) at 1) the level of incompetent stupidity, intentional or not, of Pierre Poilievre regarding a federal institution like the BOC (he's been a politician at the federal level for decades); and 2) those poll results (bolded). The latter isn't really all that surprising considering recent events, though.

Misinformation and its seemingly deliberate propagation by deceitful political figures make for a pretty harmful combination to the wellbeing of our democracy.

[WildPath]

4 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/bank-of-canada-takes-to-twitter-to-set-record-straight-on-printing-money-claim-1.6049918

Two things here: I'm amazed (or perhaps disgusted) at 1) the level of incompetent stupidity, intentional or not, of Pierre Poilievre regarding a federal institution like the BOC (he's been a politician at the federal level for decades); and 2) those poll results (bolded). The latter isn't really all that surprising considering recent events, though.

Misinformation and its seemingly deliberate propagation by deceitful political figures make for a pretty harmful combination to the wellbeing of our democracy.

Unfortunately I doubt this will have much effect. Those who believe PP's misinformation prefer to get their information spoon fed to them by PP or incredibly biased "alternative media" such a Rebel News. The best this may be able to accomplish is to prevent more people from boarding the misinformation train, but I don't even have much optimism for that.

[blue_gold_84]

Danielle Smith and her ilk are human garbage. Be better, Alberta.

[Tracker]

24 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Danielle Smith and her ilk are human garbage. Be better, Alberta.

Leopards, spots and all that.

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-premiers-carbon-tax-1.6571042

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau accused some politicians Thursday of being dishonest about the effects of the federal government's carbon tax.

The comment, aimed partially at Manitoba Premier Heather Stefanson, was the latest episode in a long-running dispute over carbon pricing between the province and Ottawa.

"What the premier and others across the country don't seem to be honest about with Canadians is in the places like Manitoba, where the federal price on pollution applies, average families get more money back from the price on pollution than the extra price on pollution costs them," Trudeau said in Winnipeg, shortly before a half-hour meeting with Stefanson.

"We found a way of fighting climate change while supporting families who need that support, and that's something that we are going to continue to do."

Trudeau's comments were in response to Stefanson's demands for a temporary suspension of the carbon tax to help people deal with inflation. She sent a joint letter earlier this year with Alberta Premier Jason Kenney and Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe that urged Trudeau to take action.

Following the meeting, Stefanson said she and Trudeau discussed the issue but remained at odds. She said suspending the tax would be more helpful than collecting it and then providing rebates.

"Manitobans need that money now. So rather than taking the money away from them and going through rebates and all this, just leave the money with them," she said.

Trudeau also battled with Stefanson's predecessor, Brian Pallister, over carbon pricing. The province's Progressive Conservative government had planned to implement its own carbon tax in 2017, but withdrew it after Ottawa said the provincial tax was not high enough.

The federal Liberal government then imposed its own "backstop" system. It adds to the price of gasoline, natural gas and other goods, then refunds money through rebate cheques.

Manitoba took the issue to court and argued that the federal government had no right to impose the backstop. The Federal Court sided with Ottawa last year.

 

[Tracker]

41 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-premiers-carbon-tax-1.6571042

 

It's about time the BSers who have been spreading disinformation about the carbon tax were challenged.

[WildPath]

6 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Following the meeting, Stefanson said she and Trudeau discussed the issue but remained at odds. She said suspending the tax would be more helpful than collecting it and then providing rebates.

"Manitobans need that money now. So rather than taking the money away from them and going through rebates and all this, just leave the money with them," she said.

Is this not exactly what her government introduced with the property tax rebate?

[FrostyWinnipeg]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/candice-bergen-not-running-1.6573349

[Mark F]

empty bottle makes the most noise

 

"According to a poll released by Research Co. on Friday, only 23 per cent of Albertans support the province becoming an independent country. The total has dropped two percentage points since it was last conducted in February 2021. Seventy per cent of respondents oppose the idea. 

Support for independence was at 21 per cent in Calgary, 24 per cent in Edmonton and 29 per cent in rural Alberta."

 

https://calgaryherald.com/news/support-for-independent-alberta-drops-to-23-per-cent-poll

 

 

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by Mark F