Canadian Politics

[SpeedFlex27]

1 hour ago, Fatty Liver said:

C'mon man, you ain't that dumb.  The premier of your province intentionally included that "colourised" black and white photo in her message as a wink and a nod to anyone with racist inclinations that might vote for her.  But you're right it isn't "closeted racism", it's blatant.

Well then, I guess I am that dumb as I honestly never noticed it. 

20 hours ago, Noeller said:

I'll remember this post when Notley wins (pray to everything holy) and you lose your mind about how the communists are taking over and the world is going to hell... 

I already lived thru (as did you) 4 years of the NDP. I don't like the NDP as they tax & spend. I think they're socialists but they aren't communists. 

[Bigblue204]

12 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Well then, I guess I am that dumb as I honestly never noticed it. 

I already lived thru (as did you) 4 years of the NDP. I don't like the NDP as they tax & spend. I think they're socialists but they aren't communists. 

It's important to remember, especially at your age that a good amount of the things that Canadians use is all due to socialism.

All the safety nets

All the emergency services

Highways 

Medical care (most anyway)

School

Etc etc etc

All from the big bad boogeyman SOCIALISM 

Edited December 12, 2022 by Bigblue204

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:

That's a bit of a reach imo.

Bit of a reach?

If it was entierly a black and white photo- I would agree, too much of a reach... but once you add in the orange highlighting.. yeah that is a ******* dog whistle klaxon horn.

It's essentially trying to tie in the NDP with Singh's turban. It's totally "Othering" the NDP. It's pretty on-brand for the Conservatives. 

 

[SpeedFlex27]

52 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

It's important to remember, especially at your age that a good amount of the things that Canadians use is all due to socialism.

All the safety nets

All the emergency services

Highways 

Medical care (most anyway)

School

Etc etc etc

All from the big bad boogeyman SOCIALISM 

Our economy has become a mixture of socialism & capitalism. I'm against Smith messing with healthcare as it'll cost her the next provincial election. Nobody wants a health spending acoount with a paltry $300 in it. She's toast. 

[17to85]

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I already lived thru (as did you) 4 years of the NDP. I don't like the NDP as they tax & spend. I think they're socialists but they aren't communists. 

This is such a bullshit boomer argument. I snapped at the in-laws for parroting the false narrative that the NDP were bad for the budget. NDP came into power as oil was cratering. No **** they had a deficit and no wonder the UCP got a surplus when oil bounced back this past year. for 40 years Alberta governments rode the oil royalty gravy train for easy surpluses. 

The NDP didn't piss away a billion dollars on a pipeline that had no chance of ever being built Trump win or no Trump win.  The NDP didn't give away big money in corporate tax cuts to watch businesses still pull up shop and leave. The NDP didn't piss away millions on a do nothing war room to go tilting after windmills. 

There are elements within the NDP that are extreme and I don't like that, but Rachel Notley showed herself to be a very pragmatic leader in a time when that is in short supply. 

You are very quick to hand wave away Danielle Smiths so called distractions... but with her it's not really a distraction. This is the reason she never unseated the PCs before when she was running the Wild Rose party. She doesn't know when to shut up. Other conservative politicians play the game and keep the quiet part quiet and work insidiously to undermine our social safety net and public institutions so that the rich get richer, but Smith just can't keep her big mouth shut and spills the beans all the time. 

[SpeedFlex27]

4 hours ago, 17to85 said:

This is such a bullshit boomer argument. I snapped at the in-laws for parroting the false narrative that the NDP were bad for the budget. NDP came into power as oil was cratering. No **** they had a deficit and no wonder the UCP got a surplus when oil bounced back this past year. for 40 years Alberta governments rode the oil royalty gravy train for easy surpluses. 

The NDP didn't piss away a billion dollars on a pipeline that had no chance of ever being built Trump win or no Trump win.  The NDP didn't give away big money in corporate tax cuts to watch businesses still pull up shop and leave. The NDP didn't piss away millions on a do nothing war room to go tilting after windmills. 

There are elements within the NDP that are extreme and I don't like that, but Rachel Notley showed herself to be a very pragmatic leader in a time when that is in short supply. 

You are very quick to hand wave away Danielle Smiths so called distractions... but with her it's not really a distraction. This is the reason she never unseated the PCs before when she was running the Wild Rose party. She doesn't know when to shut up. Other conservative politicians play the game and keep the quiet part quiet and work insidiously to undermine our social safety net and public institutions so that the rich get richer, but Smith just can't keep her big mouth shut and spills the beans all the time. 

You act like Daniel Smith is going to win the next provincial election. I don't. I think the NDP forms the next government in Alberta. She messes with health care & it's over for the UCP. 

[SpeedFlex27]

4 hours ago, 17to85 said:

This is such a bullshit boomer argument. I snapped at the in-laws for parroting the false narrative that the NDP were bad for the budget. NDP came into power as oil was cratering. No **** they had a deficit and no wonder the UCP got a surplus when oil bounced back this past year. for 40 years Alberta governments rode the oil royalty gravy train for easy surpluses. 

The NDP didn't piss away a billion dollars on a pipeline that had no chance of ever being built Trump win or no Trump win.  The NDP didn't give away big money in corporate tax cuts to watch businesses still pull up shop and leave. The NDP didn't piss away millions on a do nothing war room to go tilting after windmills. 

There are elements within the NDP that are extreme and I don't like that, but Rachel Notley showed herself to be a very pragmatic leader in a time when that is in short supply. 

You are very quick to hand wave away Danielle Smiths so called distractions... but with her it's not really a distraction. This is the reason she never unseated the PCs before when she was running the Wild Rose party. She doesn't know when to shut up. Other conservative politicians play the game and keep the quiet part quiet and work insidiously to undermine our social safety net and public institutions so that the rich get richer, but Smith just can't keep her big mouth shut and spills the beans all the time. 

Boomers? Stop with the stupid bullshit. There are more 35 plus years old Albertans from your generation that hate Trudeau & Singh's guts than any seniors out there. They're the ones with the **** Trudeau signs on the trucks. The same ones that organized the convoy to Ottawa. We boomers are retiring. Don't blame my generation for the fact your generation are the ones that want that went squirrelly alt right & want to overthrow the federal government. We Boomers have afternoon naps & morning coffee with our fast dying off friends at McDonald's to worry about.

Edited December 12, 2022 by SpeedFlex27

[Wideleft]

5 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Boomers? Stop with the stupid bullshit. There are more 35 plus years old Albertans from your generation that hate Trudeau & Singh's guts than any seniors out there. They're the ones with the **** Trudeau signs on the trucks. The same ones that organized the convoy to Ottawa. We boomers are retiring. Don't blame my generation for the fact your generation are the ones that want that went squirrelly alt right & want to overthrow the federal government. We Boomers have afternoon naps & morning coffee with our fast dying off friends at McDonald's to worry about.

Sounds like some Boomers did a really crappy job of parenting.

[17to85]

Those 35 year olds are only reacting to the rage farming. Their opinions are not informed in any way shape or form. 

And look Trudeau is a dumbass but just because I don't really like the guy means I'm going to swallow the crap the conservatives are trying to shove down my throat. 

[Noeller]

2 hours ago, Wideleft said:

Sounds like some Boomers did a really crappy job of parenting.

so much this. Alberta is just like the red state US. Generations of "Our family votes this way always" because reasons. NDP/Liberals = bad because reasons. Generations of "we're so hard done by...all the politicians in Ottawa hate us!" just keeps going on and on and on. I'd NEVER heard any talk of this during my 27 years in Manitoba, but the last 15 out here have been eye opening...

[17to85]

The nep ****** a lot of people over no doubt but time to move on.

[SpeedFlex27]

3 hours ago, Noeller said:

so much this. Alberta is just like the red state US. Generations of "Our family votes this way always" because reasons. NDP/Liberals = bad because reasons. Generations of "we're so hard done by...all the politicians in Ottawa hate us!" just keeps going on and on and on. I'd NEVER heard any talk of this during my 27 years in Manitoba, but the last 15 out here have been eye opening...

You obviously don't have kids. 

5 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Those 35 year olds are only reacting to the rage farming. Their opinions are not informed in any way shape or form. 

And look Trudeau is a dumbass but just because I don't really like the guy means I'm going to swallow the crap the conservatives are trying to shove down my throat. 

Thirty five years olds reacting to rage farming? Now we know your generation have no brains & are easily programmed. 

[JCon]

Almost the entire convoy was made up of white males between 30 and 50. All whiny little insecure man-babies who take no responsibility and want their white-privilege. 

[Bigblue204]

32 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

You obviously don't have kids. 

Thirty five years olds reacting to rage farming? Now we know your generation have no brains & are easily programmed. 

This isn't the burn you think it is. It speaks more to the lack of proper parenting by YOUR generation than anything else.

Though I will say I think Boomers get way more worked from rage farms than any other generation.

[Wideleft]

41 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

This isn't the burn you think it is. It speaks more to the lack of proper parenting by YOUR generation than anything else.

Though I will say I think Boomers get way more worked from rage farms than any other generation.

The average Fox News viewer has historically been between 65 and 68 years old.  35% have high school or less educations and another 35% haven't completed college.

https://pos.org/whos-watching-a-look-at-the-demographics-of-cable-news-channel-watchers/

I would bet that you'd get similar demographics about people who give money to televangelists.

 

Edited December 12, 2022 by Wideleft

[JCon]

Ignorance is not a left-right thing. Nor is it an age thing. 

[Wideleft]

2 minutes ago, JCon said:

Ignorance is not a left-right thing. Nor is it an age thing. 

Unless you're talking about racism, religion, same sex rights...

[JCon]

Just now, Wideleft said:

Unless you're talking about racism, religion, same sex rights...

Sure, but there are plenty on the left that are racist/prejudice too. That's pretty universal. You don't have to do anything to be ignorant, which is kind of the point. 

[Wideleft]

4 minutes ago, JCon said:

Sure, but there are plenty on the left that are racist/prejudice too. That's pretty universal. You don't have to do anything to be ignorant, which is kind of the point. 

Won't accept a both-sides type of comment here without pointing out that the left doesn't make racism and misogyny the backbone of their policies.

 

 

[17to85]

2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Thirty five years olds reacting to rage farming? Now we know your generation have no brains & are easily programmed. 

OK Boomer. 

[Mark H.]

Yeah, that crap happens on both sides of the spectrum

One example would be the way the provincial NDP acted towards and spoke about, Cindy Lamoureux

 

[Tracker]

2 hours ago, Mark H. said:

Yeah, that crap happens on both sides of the spectrum

One example would be the way the provincial NDP acted towards and spoke about, Cindy Lamoureux

 

The Left has on occasion said dumb things, but nowhere near the frequency, intolerance or degree of extremism as the Right. Nor has the Left staged such actions as those in Ottawa, Windsor or Coutts, bringing abhorrent Nazi flags, made racist/sexist insults or brought firearms to protests with plans to kill police and public officials. 

[SpeedFlex27]

9 hours ago, 17to85 said:

OK Boomer. 

You got nuthin'. Lol.

[SpeedFlex27]

13 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

This isn't the burn you think it is. It speaks more to the lack of proper parenting by YOUR generation than anything else.

Though I will say I think Boomers get way more worked from rage farms than any other generation.

What a ridiculous argument. You just keep thinking that. Did my generation hover around our kids when they were growing up? Yeah, we did. But Newsflash, your generation is 100 percent as bad as mine was. Was this behaviour an overreaction? Yeah, absolutely.

As a retired school bus driver, (as of June 30, 2021) I saw some real shining example of entitlement from today's generation spoiling & coddling their kids which was easily as bad or as worse as anything we did 30 years before.

One time, I was five minutes late getting to my last stop on my last run of the day in the afternoon because of heavy traffic volume. A young student had left a mitt on the bus from the morning run. After we stopped, I didn't open the door right away. I reached up into the overhead compartment to get the mitt out to (hopefully) give back to the student who left it on the bus after my AM run. I wanted to show the kids the mitt before they left the bus for the day. 

Suddenly, there was a loud banging on my door & an enraged mother demanding to know why I didn't open the door right away. Screaming at me to give her son back to her. She accused me of kidnapping him. Besides swearing at me, she said she was calling the cops to have me arrested.

This Mom had lost her mind. Yet, there she melting down at the foot of the steps of my bus accusing me of kidnapping. Yep, all because I was trying to give a glove back to a student before they left the bus that day when it was minus 20. Her behaviour freaked out some of the little kids on the bus so I closed the door & wouldn't let the kids off until she calmed down. I deemed her a threat to student safety. 

I reported her to my dispatcher as the incident was taking place. Told Dispatch the kids were not being allowed off until she calmed down & wrote her up for a parental misconduct. I was asked if I wanted the police to attend & I told Dispatch no but I'd let them know if she doesn't stop yelling.

She was banned for the rest of the school year by the Calgary Board of Education from saying anything to me or coming within 7 metres of my school bus door. She was also told that if she tried any more shennanigans like that again, her son would be banned for the remainder of the school year. So, after that, I'd pull up to the stop, let the kids out & I could hear her yelling at me from time to time at a distance about something she didn't like that particular day. I just ignored her. 

This went on for the remainder of the school year as the incident took place the first week back from holidays in January, 2021. She was never happy about me or my driving. Something always pissed her off. The woman was a nutcase. I just ignored the stupid, entitled little ***** of a mommy. Lucky for this Mom her son was one of the most best behaved kids on the bus. That saved him from being punted as he was a nice boy & I didn't want to punish him for his Mother acting like an idiot. 

Mom was smart enough to stay away from my door after that, Had she walked up & started to scream again, her son would have been permanently gone. As it stood, I could have had her son taken off the bus because her behaviour never really stopped. She just did it from 20 feet away. When I heard her yelling after the kids were off the bus, I'd quickly close the door & she'd leave. I never spoke to her face to face again for the rest of the school year.

So, you claim that my generation didn't do proper parenting? Think again. Parents today are every bit as entitled as they were 20 or 30 years ago when my generation was the same age as parents are today with my 2 sons. Except I never sreamed at an innocent school bus driver as my kids walked to & from school everyday. BTW, what a clever name Rage Farming is. Just another buzzword of the 2020's.

Edited December 13, 2022 by SpeedFlex27

[Mark H.]

9 hours ago, Tracker said:

The Left has on occasion said dumb things, but nowhere near the frequency, intolerance or degree of extremism as the Right. Nor has the Left staged such actions as those in Ottawa, Windsor or Coutts, bringing abhorrent Nazi flags, made racist/sexist insults or brought firearms to protests with plans to kill police and public officials. 

There are and have been plenty of people on the left, with unacceptable beliefs.  And extremists attach themselves to pretty much every protest.