SpeedFlex27 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: Liberals almost caught with their pants down, but able to lie their way out of it. Seems to be a steady pattern with this bunch of corrupt losers... Even the Speaker is corrupt.
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: Liberals almost caught with their pants down, but able to lie their way out of it. Seems to be a steady pattern with this bunch of corrupt losers... Actually, it was pretty clever. An elegant move to counter the opposition's smarmy move to pull those shinanegans.
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Actually, it was pretty clever. An elegant move to counter the opposition's smarmy move to pull those shinanegans. Smarmy? After what Trudeau has done?
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Smarmy? After what Trudeau has done? ... Nothing is smarmy anymore because of Trudeau? I don't get it.
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: ... Nothing is smarmy anymore because of Trudeau? I don't get it. That is not what I mean at all.
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 Just now, SpeedFlex27 said: That is not what I mean at all. Oh, ok.
JCon Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 What people seem to not understand is that the gov't was not going to fall, even with a failed confidence vote. As a gov't, you can lose confidence but you can also gain confidence. Another vote would would re-establish confidence. Everyone acts like this was a big deal but it wasn't. Just a talking point. They certainly didn't prorogue gov't to avoid falling.
Goalie Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 I think its funny ppl think it was only the liberals with this whole snc lavalin thing when its quite apparent this goes back to past fed govts aswell... Cons liberals.. They all were involved Wideleft and bigg jay 1 1
kelownabomberfan Posted March 22, 2019 Report Posted March 22, 2019 https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-the-liberals-are-now-at-the-edge-of-a-cliff
kelownabomberfan Posted March 25, 2019 Report Posted March 25, 2019 Looks like our PM is guilty of a crime, obstruction of justice....what a clown!!! Quote #LAVSCAM LATEST: DID PMO HAVE DIRECT CONTACT WITH PROSECUTORS IN THE SNC-LAVALIN TRIAL? "That’s what the Globe and Mail is suggesting in another shocker this morning. I have wondered the same thing. Huge reporting by Fife and Team. And, if true, this moves things closer to obstruction of justice. Big time. The Prime Minister’s Office will neither confirm nor deny the assertion by former attorney-general Jody Wilson-Raybould that senior advisers to Justin Trudeau had inside knowledge of discussions within the independent Public Prosecution Service about the criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin. Ms. Wilson-Raybould has alleged that the Prime Minister’s Office [PMO] told her chief of staff about an apparent internal dispute between director of public prosecutions Kathleen Roussel and one of the federal prosecutors handling the SNC-Lavalin bribery and fraud prosecution. In testimony before the Commons justice committee last month, Ms. Wilson-Raybould described a Sept. 16, 2018, conversation between her then-chief of staff, Jessica Prince, and the Prime Minister’s Quebec adviser, Mathieu Bouchard, and senior adviser Elder Marques about negotiating an out-of-court settlement with SNC-Lavalin. Ms. Wilson-Raybould says she plans to provide follow-up written testimony this week to the committee to show there was high-level political interference in the SNC-Lavalin matter."
pigseye Posted March 25, 2019 Report Posted March 25, 2019 It is also a criminal code offence to provoke fear in the AG, the PMO needs to be investigated on both counts.
The Unknown Poster Posted March 28, 2019 Author Report Posted March 28, 2019 blue_gold_84 and JCon 1 1
JCon Posted March 28, 2019 Report Posted March 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: If you're a die-hard Liberal, how are you not disgusted? SNC-Lav tries to blackmail the gov't and the PMO obliges. SNC-Lav is used to dealing with terrorists, so they must have learned a thing or two. At this point, lop the head off the party and hope there's something worth redeeming below.
The Unknown Poster Posted March 28, 2019 Author Report Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, JCon said: If you're a die-hard Liberal, how are you not disgusted? SNC-Lav tries to blackmail the gov't and the PMO obliges. SNC-Lav is used to dealing with terrorists, so they must have learned a thing or two. At this point, lop the head off the party and hope there's something worth redeeming below. Im really curious if there was a quid pro quo offered other then the idea JT's get was to preserve jobs. You'd think the normal reaction when being extorted or whatever by a big company would be to press mute, scream "Go **** yourselves" and then turn mute off and say "we want you to stay in Canada but the PMO does not involve itself in criminal investigations. Oh and by the way, Im now referring this call to the RCMP. Thanks!"
JCon Posted March 28, 2019 Report Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said: Im really curious if there was a quid pro quo offered other then the idea JT's get was to preserve jobs. You'd think the normal reaction when being extorted or whatever by a big company would be to press mute, scream "Go **** yourselves" and then turn mute off and say "we want you to stay in Canada but the PMO does not involve itself in criminal investigations. Oh and by the way, Im now referring this call to the RCMP. Thanks!" Thing is, the original convo happens off the record with Butts (or someone else in the PMO office). If there are documents, someone thought it was a good idea to proceed with something more formal 'threat'. Yikes. The Unknown Poster 1
The Unknown Poster Posted March 28, 2019 Author Report Posted March 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, JCon said: Thing is, the original convo happens off the record with Butts (or someone else in the PMO office). If there are documents, someone thought it was a good idea to proceed with something more formal 'threat'. Yikes. He should have called the RCMP, got wired up, called SNC back for a formal "offer" and then said "well, I guess you're not leaving after all, are you..." FrostyWinnipeg 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Posted March 29, 2019 Just another day in the life of our Prime Minister who can't stop tripping over his feet even when standing still.. The gift that keeps on giving. The Unknown Poster 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted March 29, 2019 Report Posted March 29, 2019 JT was right in his throwdown. Got something to say? Yelling at private function not the way to do it even if they paid their way into it.
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: JT was right in his throwdown. Got something to say? Yelling at private function not the way to do it even if they paid their way into it. No. Saying thanks for the donation was the wrong thing to say. Then talking about his government's reconciliation success while being heckled & two protestors were being dragged out was arrogant. Trudeau was trying to be condescending & snotty. It backfired. Edited March 30, 2019 by SpeedFlex27
JCon Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: No. Saying thanks for the donation was the wrong thing to say. Then talking about his government's reconciliation success while being heckled & two protestors were being dragged out was arrogant. Trudeau was trying to be condescending & snotty. It backfired. It was wrong and he apologized, meaning he even thought it was wrong. From a political science point-of-view, I'm finding this fascinating. JT is tarnished and nothing he does or says now is working. It's the PC tradition to eat their own. Not so with the Libs. It will be interesting to see if they eat JT or continue to fight for him. I think it could lead to a big rift, long standing rift. We saw (and continue to see) something similar within the provincial NDP. I know and converse regularly, with people "in the party" that were anti-Selinger. The bitterness remains. The party is still fractured. SpeedFlex27 1
Mark H. Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 Some pretty damning testimony has come to light today - the fall out / results will be interesting indeed... blue_gold_84 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mark H. said: Some pretty damning testimony has come to light today - the fall out / results will be interesting indeed... Now some in the media & on social media are focusing on JWR taping conversations. That Wernick was unaware & that as a lawyer she knew it was wrong. Trying to twist it in Trudeau's favour. How does she stay in the Liberal caucus? She must be hated. Edited March 30, 2019 by SpeedFlex27
Mark H. Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 8 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Now some in the media & on social media are focusing on JWR taping conversations. That Wernick was unaware & that as a lawyer she knew it was wrong. Trying to twist it in Trudeau's favour. How does she stay in the Liberal caucus? She must be hated. She stays because the optics of Trudeau forcing her out would probably be the final nail in the Liberal coffin. blue_gold_84 1
Zontar Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) The cries of "unethical" by partisan media and apologists on JWRS recordings is rich. If a woman secretly recorded a plot by perceived enemies of leftists she would be hailed as a "hero" , "courageous" and a "role model" for "standing up to the patriarchy" etc. Etc. Then given awards and lifetime employment and endless paid feminist and diversity speaking tours if she wanted it. "She persisted" indeed. Edited March 30, 2019 by Zontar
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