Goalie Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) Love Wheeler but he should be more pissed at his fellow veterans other than little and himself the Vets ARE a huge problem Buff. Toby. Perreault. Stafford. Have all been pretty awful this year. Lazy buff shows up quite a bit Edited January 14, 2017 by Goalie Ducky, bustamente and IC Khari 3
Goalie Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: I was going to day players only meeting. Game was not lost on goaltending. Helle could have had the second goal. But other two were no D. Goal on Hutch, if stu makes a play instead of hacking the player maybe it's not scored And there's still 2 periods left to play. Like against Montreal. They give up easily.
Goalie Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 I'll say something positive tho. Stuart was an upgrade on Chiarot IC Khari, The Unknown Poster and FrostyWinnipeg 3
Ducky Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, Goalie said: Love Wheeler but he should be more pissed at his fellow veterans other than little and himself the Vets ARE a huge problem Buff. Toby. Perreault. Stafford. Have all been pretty awful this year. Lazy buff shows up quite a bit One of the biggest disappointments of the season for me. Like I asked the other day, what kind of leadership is he showing? I was just typing the same thing about Stu...was an adequate 3rd pair D tonight. Weak check on one goal but overall not too bad.
bustamente Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 Buff - Trade him this year or his NMC kicks in Toby - Has lost a step gets out muscled and if there was a better option he would be gone Perreault - His extension hasn't even kicked in and there's probably buyers remorse Stafford - Has till the deadline or he walks for free If any get moved and I have my doubts then call ups from the Moose should start with Connor , Roslovic, and Lemieux, play them on a line even. Defence wise I don't know. 10 minutes ago, Goalie said: Love Wheeler but he should be more pissed at his fellow veterans other than little and himself the Vets ARE a huge problem Buff. Toby. Perreault. Stafford. Have all been pretty awful this year. Lazy buff shows up quite a bit
Ducky Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 I am quite sure Buff's NMC is for the first 2 or 3 years of his deal so it is active right now.
bustamente Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ducky said: I am quite sure Buff's NMC is for the first 2 or 3 years of his deal so it is active right now. NMC Starts 2018/19 season according to Cap Friendly
Ducky Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 https://www.capfriendly.com/players/dustin-byfuglien
bustamente Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 I stand corrected, miss read ntc to 14 teams and thought thats when it takes effect Ducky 1
Brandon Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 3 goals on 7 shots... they were all shots that could be saved. Helle stunk it up tonight big time. The team in the first had momentum and started the game on fire.... it's just that when the goalie can't make routine saves it kind of kills any momentum that they had. Tonight a few bad breaks and Stafford moving slow as hell could of prevented the outcome... but any regular even average goaltending would of made this game much closer. Helle needs to sit for awhile.
Ducky Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) He was pulled too early if you ask me.....give him a chance to work through it...he is a rookie goalie and worrying whether he is going to get pulled or not if he lets in a goal isn't going to develop a goalie believe me. I'd play Hutch in LA and Helle in San Jose. Goaltending needs to be better but that is on Chevy as much as anyone. I have no problem with Helle being up with the team this season but he needs a mentor. He gets into a slump, we need someone that can come in and play a few games in a row while he works on his bugs. Hutch has shown that isn't him. Edited January 14, 2017 by Ducky
The Unknown Poster Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 First and third were tough. Right on the doorstep. I suppose Helle could have had them but then he's making spectacular saves after mistakes by his d. This loss isn't on goaltending. It's on lousy lousy team play. Helle was pulled to save him from further embarrassment.
IC Khari Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 Jets issues ... FrostyWinnipeg and Floyd 2
HardCoreBlue Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 9 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: First and third were tough. Right on the doorstep. I suppose Helle could have had them but then he's making spectacular saves after mistakes by his d. This loss isn't on goaltending. It's on lousy lousy team play. Helle was pulled to save him from further embarrassment. If that's true and if I'm Michael Hutchinson, I'm thinking 'Thanks a lot Coach' Floyd 1
sweep the leg Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 9 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: This loss isn't on goaltending. It's on lousy lousy team play. The loss is on both. Lots of excuses for Helle, but he's been every bit as bad as the rest of the team in these last two losses.
sweep the leg Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 10 hours ago, Goalie said: Love Wheeler but he should be more pissed at his fellow veterans What in that quote says he isn't?
Goalie Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 36 minutes ago, sweep the leg said: What in that quote says he isn't? If you listen to him instead of reading it his tone suggests he is more pissed at was it Wicek (can't blame wheeler that much) asking the question
The Unknown Poster Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said: If that's true and if I'm Michael Hutchinson, I'm thinking 'Thanks a lot Coach' That's the job of the back up.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 50 minutes ago, Goalie said: If you listen to him instead of reading it his tone suggests he is more pissed at was it Wicek (can't blame wheeler that much) asking the question I wthink upset read much into that. he just came from what was likely an angry and emotional meeting where he, as captain, had a lot to say and he was expecting the media to ask him and he just wasn't in the mood. Good captain wouldn't throw his team mates under the bus publicly. I do expect him as Captain to call out guys that need it
Ducky Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 What I wouldn't give to be sitting there listening to what was said and who said what at that meeting. Supposedly it was kinda like, You shouldn't have games like that in this league. (about letting them score 3 goals on the first 7 shots)...Before you know it, the season is over and suddenly it's summer again and you're training for the next season.... Just trying to make sure everyone is on the same page about what we are trying to do... That was the main point. ... I would have liked to hear what Buff and Scheif and Wheeler were saying.
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