Game 57 : Blackhawks @ 26 Games Left

[The Unknown Poster]

  On 2017-02-11 at 12:39 PM, Ducky said:

You mean Crawford was as good as heneeded to be. We were out goalied even though Helle played not bad. Bottom line is he let in 3 and Crawford only let in 2 and one was in garbage time.

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Then Helle was outstanding judging by your Pavs standard of GAA. 

[The Unknown Poster]

  On 2017-02-11 at 1:03 PM, Ducky said:

But he had .912 save percentage.

Most people on here would rather have the stats than the wins.  I honestly don't care what the save percentages are,  I would rather have the win.

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Actually no. But you can keep waving your Pavs flag until the entirety of your self respect has evaporated. Pavs stats over more than a small sample size would result in far less wins than Helles. 

The only stats that mattered when Pavs played was goals scored for the jets.  But please, go on. 

[The Unknown Poster]

  On 2017-02-11 at 2:12 PM, Ducky said:

TUP said he'd rather have stats than wins.

Putting words in other people'smouths?

I ask a question whether he played below league average and now I am saying goals scored don't count? Take a look in the mirror.

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Are you 12 years old?  You go on and on defending Pavs. But criticize Helle for having a better save percentage. 

Higher save percentage and lower GAA will result in more wins over time. You take a very small sample size to argue because you can't admit you're wrong.  Like Rich said it's tiring seeing your nonsense all the time. You're wrong. Just accept it. 

[Ducky]

  On 2017-02-11 at 6:28 PM, The Unknown Poster said:

Actually no. But you can keep waving your Pavs flag until the entirety of your self respect has evaporated. Pavs stats over more than a small sample size would result in far less wins than Helles. 

The only stats that mattered when Pavs played was goals scored for the jets.  But please, go on. 

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I don't know where to begin with this one....who was talking about Pavs?

My selfrespect? Really? From someone that said he would rather see stats for the measly 6-8 games a back up is going to get for the rest of the season compared to wins for the rest of the season? Math is obviously not your strong point. I want to see the team win, regardles of a freaking goalie's stats for the remaining games he would play this season...I am talking about PAvs now and Hutch if you don't understand.

  On 2017-02-11 at 6:31 PM, The Unknown Poster said:

Are you 12 years old?  You go on and on defending Pavs. But criticize Helle for having a better save percentage. 

Higher save percentage and lower GAA will result in more wins over time. You take a very small sample size to argue because you can't admit you're wrong.  Like Rich said it's tiring seeing your nonsense all the time. You're wrong. Just accept it. 

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Again, nobody was talking about your buddy Pavs but do you kow how much time it would take for the difference between Hutch's and Pavs' sv% to even produce two goals?

They are lucky if either of them plays 10 more games this season.

Here is a stat for you....8 games 4 wins vs. 17 games 4 wins. Only a complete fool takes the latter to play in maybe 10 games.

[Brandon]

At this point clearly Ducky is trolling ,   no need to feed the troll.     

 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

  On 2017-02-11 at 4:33 AM, bustamente said:

So if things are going like last year does that mean the 2nd pick overall after the lottery.

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You mean there's more q picks after the top 2?

  On 2017-02-11 at 4:26 AM, Goalie said:

Buff is still good. He's just not as good. He's still in the top 10 of d men scoring in the league

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Yeah Buff is good. He'd be great if we were a playoff team.

  On 2017-02-11 at 6:17 PM, Tony Fresco said:

Helle played well enough to win last night IF he had received the same goal support Pav has enjoyed this year.  This has been the most telling stat among the results we have seen.  Pav has won more frequently because he has received the most goal support. 

Per stats.hockeyanalysis.com, here is the goals support received by Jets goalies this year:

Pav :  3.82 per 60min played

Helle: 2.88 per 60

Hutch:  1.92 per 60. 

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Maybe they are more defensive cause they don't trust the goalie.

[Goalie]

  On 2017-02-11 at 7:11 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said:

You mean there's more q picks after the top 2?

Yeah Buff is good. He'd be great if we were a playoff team.

Maybe they are more defensive cause they don't trust the goalie.

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Maybe they just suck? 

Yeah guess they trust the goalie who lets in goals early in the game

 

[Goalie]

  On 2017-02-11 at 7:11 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said:

You mean there's more q picks after the top 2?

Yeah Buff is good. He'd be great if we were a playoff team.

Maybe they are more defensive cause they don't trust the goalie.

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Lol. Helle is better than pavelec and it's not even close or debatable. This idea the team has more confidence with pavelec is complete horseshit 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

  On 2017-02-11 at 8:42 PM, Goalie said:

Lol. Helle is better than pavelec and it's not even close or debatable. This idea the team has more confidence with pavelec is complete horseshit 

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Just a theory. What else to explain why they only score with Pav in net other then he came up just when we played a bunch of bad teams or teams with goaltending problems.

 

Edited February 11, 2017 by FrostyWinnipeg

[Goalie]

  On 2017-02-11 at 9:00 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Just a theory. What else to explain why they only score with Pav in net other then he came up just when we played a bunch of bad teams or teams with goaltending problems.

 

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Fun fact

 

When pav and helle start and finish a game and the Jets score 4 or more goals they win 100 percent of the time.  When they score less than 4... pav has yet to win a game... helle has won several. So your idea that they score more with pav in net? It's another bullshit line 

[Goalie]

  On 2017-02-11 at 9:00 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Just a theory. What else to explain why they only score with Pav in net other then he came up just when we played a bunch of bad teams or teams with goaltending problems.

 

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That's mainly it. Backups and backups to the backups. 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

  On 2017-02-11 at 9:04 PM, Goalie said:

Fun fact

 

When pav and helle start and finish a game and the Jets score 4 or more goals they win 100 percent of the time.  When they score less than 4... pav has yet to win a game... helle has won several. So your idea that they score more with pav in net? It's another bullshit line 

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So Tony's post is a lie then?

[Goalie]

  On 2017-02-11 at 9:10 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said:

So Tony's post is a lie then?

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Who? 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

  On 2017-02-11 at 9:20 PM, Goalie said:

Who? 

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  On 2017-02-11 at 6:17 PM, Tony Fresco said:

Helle played well enough to win last night IF he had received the same goal support Pav has enjoyed this year.  This has been the most telling stat among the results we have seen.  Pav has won more frequently because he has received the most goal support. 

Per stats.hockeyanalysis.com, here is the goals support received by Jets goalies this year:

Pav :  3.82 per 60min played

Helle: 2.88 per 60

Hutch:  1.92 per 60.  

Pav gets almost 4 goals per game support, Hutch gets the short end of the straw at less than 2.  

Helle let in 3 last night, If Jets score 4, like they have in most of Pav's games, the team wins.

Wins is a team stat.  PERIOD.

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[Goalie]

  On 2017-02-11 at 9:24 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said:

 

 

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No that's correct. That's just average goal support.  2.88 is less than 4. Helle has some shutouts. He's had games where he let's In 2. He's  had games where he let's in 1.  Jets have won most those games. Pav has yet to have a game where's he's let in less than 3 

Edited February 11, 2017 by Goalie