kelownabomberfan Posted April 9, 2017 Report Posted April 9, 2017 ****-can Thorbs, Stuart, Pavs and Enstrom. Myers, Little, Trouba play all next year. Find a goalie. Poolman, Connor, Roslo step up next year. Should be good.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted April 9, 2017 Author Report Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said: ****-can Thorbs, Stuart, Pavs and Enstrom. Myers, Little, Trouba play all next year. Find a goalie. Poolman, Connor, Roslo step up next year. Should be good. Well Thorbs and Pavs are UFA's. Stu's got an in with the company so he not leaving the city. Enstrom...well that is interesting isn't it? Edited April 9, 2017 by FrostyWinnipeg
kelownabomberfan Posted April 9, 2017 Report Posted April 9, 2017 2 hours ago, IC Khari said: Was Enstrom really missed? not at all IC Khari 1
IC Khari Posted April 9, 2017 Report Posted April 9, 2017 1 hour ago, kelownabomberfan said: not at all Who replaced Enstrom with Alfred Nobel? (too obscure? Nobel was a famous Swedish guy with a beard )
FrostyWinnipeg Posted April 9, 2017 Author Report Posted April 9, 2017 1 minute ago, IC Khari said: Who replaced Enstrom with Alfred Nobel? (too obscure? Nobel was a famous Swedish guy with a beard ) Nobel created the line "Blow that **** up!" IC Khari 1
Goalie Posted April 9, 2017 Report Posted April 9, 2017 Ya cuz melchiori and Stuart are better than Enstrom. I'm all for moving Toby but... our lhd depth sucks and reality Is he's our 2nd best lhd The Unknown Poster 1
IC Khari Posted April 9, 2017 Report Posted April 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Goalie said: Ya cuz melchiori and Stuart are better than Enstrom. I'm all for moving Toby but... our lhd depth sucks and reality Is he's our 2nd best lhd
JCon Posted April 9, 2017 Report Posted April 9, 2017 If Toby is on our 3rd pairing, I'm pretty darn happy. IC Khari 1
Goalie Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 4 hours ago, JCon said: If Toby is on our 3rd pairing, I'm pretty darn happy. Who is on our 2nd pairing? 5.75 million on the 3rd pair? Yikes
FrostyWinnipeg Posted April 10, 2017 Author Report Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, Goalie said: Who is on our 2nd pairing? 5.75 million on the 3rd pair? Yikes And Myers 4 mil.
IC Khari Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 On 2017-04-08 at 11:24 AM, kelownabomberfan said: it's not going to be that long. The thing about hockey is that there's only really a three month break, from mid June to mid Sept. Not very long. Now football on the other hand...it's an eternity... Not with the Jets, usually about 5
JCon Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 8 hours ago, Goalie said: Who is on our 2nd pairing? 5.75 million on the 3rd pair? Yikes I don't care what Enstrom costs for 2017/18. We're not going to be at the cap and his contract comes off the books after. Obviously, if Enstrom is in the 3rd pairing, we've added a top 4, LHD.
kelownabomberfan Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, JCon said: I don't care what Enstrom costs for 2017/18. We're not going to be at the cap and his contract comes off the books after. Obviously, if Enstrom is in the 3rd pairing, we've added a top 4, LHD. I don't care what he costs either, just want him gone. And yes, I would take Melch any day of the week over Toby. At least I don't have to cringe in shame every time someone just easily elbows Enstrom off the puck and throws it out front to an open man. So tired of watching that.
The Unknown Poster Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: I don't care what he costs either, just want him gone. And yes, I would take Melch any day of the week over Toby. At least I don't have to cringe in shame every time someone just easily elbows Enstrom off the puck and throws it out front to an open man. So tired of watching that. There is no rush in moving him. I'd keep him and look for a potential deadline deal although hopefully he has more value to the Jets playoff run next season. But if they need to trade him now for expansion purposes, so be it. Im fine with keeping him. One way they might convince him to waive is NMC is to also offer him a new deal.
Rich Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: There is no rush in moving him. I'd keep him and look for a potential deadline deal although hopefully he has more value to the Jets playoff run next season. But if they need to trade him now for expansion purposes, so be it. Im fine with keeping him. One way they might convince him to waive is NMC is to also offer him a new deal. What kind of deal would you offer him to waive his NMC? Jets would be looking for a pay cut from his current salary to re-sign him. So his options would be waive his NMC, sign for less and extend his contract so that if he gets picked up by Vegas, he is stuck there longer. Or play out his final season and see what he can actually get on the open market. I don't think anyone is going to break the bank to sign him in free agency, but given those options, why wouldn't you opt to go and find out ... unless his heart is dead set on ending his career in Winnipeg.
The Unknown Poster Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Rich said: What kind of deal would you offer him to waive his NMC? Jets would be looking for a pay cut from his current salary to re-sign him. So his options would be waive his NMC, sign for less and extend his contract so that if he gets picked up by Vegas, he is stuck there longer. Or play out his final season and see what he can actually get on the open market. I don't think anyone is going to break the bank to sign him in free agency, but given those options, why wouldn't you opt to go and find out ... unless his heart is dead set on ending his career in Winnipeg. Either way he is getting less. I dont think he's going to be a target for Vegas. So I'd go to Vegas and make a deal to not pick him. Jets cant re-sign him until; July 1st anyway so its after the draft. For Vegas, if Toby is available they get an expensive player for one year. they might see him as an asset to trade though. But they'd probably prefer someone younger with term. So Jets made a deal not to take him. Jets go to Toby and say they have made a deal so Toby wont be picked by Vegas. In return for waiving, here is a contract to sign on July 1st that extends him 3 years (maybe 4) for whatever fair market value is. If Toby likes it here, a guaranteed contract is desirable. If there is a deal not to be picked by Vegas, he loses nothing in waiving his NMC and gains that guaranteed extension.
Rich Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Either way he is getting less. I dont think he's going to be a target for Vegas. So I'd go to Vegas and make a deal to not pick him. Jets cant re-sign him until; July 1st anyway so its after the draft. For Vegas, if Toby is available they get an expensive player for one year. they might see him as an asset to trade though. But they'd probably prefer someone younger with term. So Jets made a deal not to take him. Jets go to Toby and say they have made a deal so Toby wont be picked by Vegas. In return for waiving, here is a contract to sign on July 1st that extends him 3 years (maybe 4) for whatever fair market value is. If Toby likes it here, a guaranteed contract is desirable. If there is a deal not to be picked by Vegas, he loses nothing in waiving his NMC and gains that guaranteed extension. What's market value for Enstrom? JCon 1
The Unknown Poster Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, Rich said: What's market value for Enstrom? I dont know.
Rich Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: I dont know. That is my issue with your proposal. Getting both sides to agree on that really isn't that simple.
The Unknown Poster Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, Rich said: That is my issue with your proposal. Getting both sides to agree on that really isn't that simple. Wont be too hard. Toby will know he's over-paid at current salary. Both sides will have comparables and meet in the middle. if Toby doesnt want to extend, so be it. He can go play somewhere else in a year. Point is, if he DOES want to extend here, then they will get a deal done. Does his NMC run to the end of his deal? It would be a shame if we didnt even reserve the option to trade him at the deadline, though possibly he'd waive to go to a contender if the Jets were not playoff-bound.
kelownabomberfan Posted April 10, 2017 Report Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rich said: What's market value for Enstrom? and yes, apparently that is Connor McDavid's jock-strap. Edited April 10, 2017 by kelownabomberfan
Arnold_Palmer Posted April 11, 2017 Report Posted April 11, 2017 On April 8, 2017 at 0:12 PM, HardCoreBlue said: Agree with most of what you write here but Bryan Little a role player? When healthy he's more than a role player for this team imo. What I mean is he isn't a star. He's a great top six player. Stupidly underrated. Perfect number two center behind Scheifs. HardCoreBlue 1
Goalie Posted April 11, 2017 Report Posted April 11, 2017 He isn't a Star because he plays for Winnipeg. If he was in Toronto or New York he would be
FrostyWinnipeg Posted April 11, 2017 Author Report Posted April 11, 2017 Little's a noname guy. Gets the job done but not big for things like interviews. So it's Wheeler and Scheif.
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