2017 NHL Off Season

[Atomic]

12 minutes ago, Brandon said:

I take it the guy isn't a scorer based on his stats?   So another Lowry type player?

What???  Not at all.  If you are on hockeydb keep in mind he was playing against pros at 16.  Against his own age he was dominant.

[Goalie]

Top 15 talent there maybe top 10. Steal of the draft potentially

 

6 3 210. Power forward. 

Edited June 24, 2017 by Goalie

[Atomic]

For his real stats

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=222125

[bb1]

4 minutes ago, Atomic said:

For his real stats

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=222125

Yea real swing there rated 7th to 34 so could be a steal or not but usually our scouts have been gold..

Edited June 24, 2017 by bb1

[bustamente]

No reason that Vesalainen isn't as good or better than the 10-15 picks before him, another year in Europe probably in the cards and hopefully can make the jump to the Moose in the year following, maybe he surprises us.

[Goalie]

Lol. Interesting picks still available tomorrow in hague timmins brook and many more. 

[Goalie]

Just now, bustamente said:

No reason that Vesalainen isn't as good or better than the 10-15 picks before him, another year in Europe probably in the cards and hopefully can make the jump to the Moose in the year following, maybe he surprises us.

He could in reality play for the moose this season but yeah probably not. Great value at 24. They did the right thing and went BPA. 

[bustamente]

2 minutes ago, Goalie said:

He could in reality play for the moose this season but yeah probably not. Great value at 24. They did the right thing and went BPA. 

Tonight went about as good as it could get considering that we were drafting 24th, a lot of d-man went no need to reach just to say we got a d-man that might be ready in 3-4 years, we need a 5-6 defenceman this year BPA was the way to go 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

21 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Top 15 talent there maybe top 10. Steal of the draft potentially

 

6 3 210. Power forward. 

Toronto got lucky imho.

[Brandon]

25 minutes ago, Atomic said:

What???  Not at all.  If you are on hockeydb keep in mind he was playing against pros at 16.  Against his own age he was dominant.

Against men he struggled mightily it said on various sites...  hopefully he can develop to something more then a 20 - 30 point player....

[Atomic]

1 minute ago, Brandon said:

Against men he struggled mightily it said on various sites...  hopefully he can develop to something more then a 20 - 30 point player....

Ya he was 16-17.  Are you serious right now?  Ehlers struggled against men when he was 16 too.  Think man.

[Atomic]

 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

7 minutes ago, Atomic said:

 

2 minutes into KV highlights and not a single fricken goal!

Had breakthrough career-wise/offensively at the U18 tourney but not much before that.

Vesalainen will enter the first of a two-year contract he signed with HPK (SWE) in April. So 2019?

Edited June 24, 2017 by FrostyWinnipeg

[Brandon]

1 hour ago, Atomic said:

Ya he was 16-17.  Are you serious right now?  Ehlers struggled against men when he was 16 too.  Think man.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=66581

He did much better

[Atomic]

5 minutes ago, Brandon said:

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=66581

He did much better

2 points in 11 games playing with pros.  Not sure what point you're trying to make with that.

I'm not saying Vesalainen is Ehlers.  Just that you can't judge a guy based on his point production against PROS when he is 16.

Give Vesalainen two years in the QMJHL and he would be better than a point per game without question.

[bb1]

32 minutes ago, Atomic said:

2 points in 11 games playing with pros.  Not sure what point you're trying to make with that.

I'm not saying Vesalainen is Ehlers.  Just that you can't judge a guy based on his point production against PROS when he is 16.

Give Vesalainen two years in the QMJHL and he would be better than a point per game without question.

Can't say ethier one...he may become a good Nhl player or flame out..but he definitely doesn't have Ethlers offense at the same age but is a different player a power forward..we will see.

[The Unknown Poster]

4 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:

We gave up Cal Foote to keep Enstrom. I don't get it.

I don't know why this is so complicated for so many. But no that's not what happened. 

[The Unknown Poster]

4 hours ago, bb1 said:

Yea well one playoff in 7 years what's the rush?

Yes Cal Foote was making all the difference this season. Jesus....

[The Unknown Poster]

Jets did well this week. Very well. Let's hope it continues next week.  

[The Unknown Poster]

 

Edited June 24, 2017 by The Unknown Poster

[The Unknown Poster]

 

[Goalie]

4 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Toronto got lucky imho.

Nah. Liljegren is over rated. 

[Goalie]

2 hours ago, Brandon said:

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=66581

He did much better

He played in a weaker league than vesalainen. 

[Goalie]

5 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:

We gave up Cal Foote to keep Enstrom. I don't get it.

No. You have no idea who they would have taken at 13. It might have even been vesalainen. 

[Brandon]

Who cares who they picked... as U.P. said it wouldn't make any difference for this season.  

The more important addition will be who they sign for a backup goalie and if they can bring in some one for the 3rd pairing on the D.... way more important then what guy they draft and who will play for the Moose for a few years...