Atomic Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, yogi said: Also, declaring something a statistical outlier doesn't equate to declaring something statistically insignificant. Get some book learning people. I think it would be a fair point if you did it for everyone.... eliminated the best and worst return for each. For example if you take away Lankford's TD return, his average goes down to 23.4. Now Martese Jackson's average of 26.1 looks much better. But if you take away Jackson's best return, his average goes down to 21.3. So Lankford is still better than Jackson. The issue arises when you massage the stats for one player but not for the others, IMO. Sard, blue_gold_84, sweep the leg and 1 other 4
do or die Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 Lankford is getting some results, while looking awkward doing it. No hair is left un-split.... SPuDS, rebusrankin and Atomic 3
JohnnyOnTheSpot Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 I'm still not convinced on Lankford. The one he did take back was in spite of the lane he initially picked being shut down. I put that one down to luck and speed, not returner savvy. The great returners don't bounce around like he does.
Guest J5V Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Noeller said: WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM HIM THAN TO STAY HEALTHY AND SCORE TOUCHDOWNS?????? You haven't had your coffee yet, have you? lol
Sard Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, JohnnyOnTheSpot said: I'm still not convinced on Lankford. The one he did take back was in spite of the lane he initially picked being shut down. I put that one down to luck and speed, not returner savvy. The great returners don't bounce around like he does. Pinball Clemons would like to disagree with your comment. 17to85, blue_gold_84, Tracker and 3 others 6
trueBlue83 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 23 minutes ago, JohnnyOnTheSpot said: I'm still not convinced on Lankford. The one he did take back was in spite of the lane he initially picked being shut down. I put that one down to luck and speed, not returner savvy. The great returners don't bounce around like he does. Jackson from the Argos was bouncing off all kinds of Bomber tacklers, and looked pretty great in doing so. Gizmo Williams, Pinball, Stefan Logan... all those guys bounced around and were pretty good at it. If anything, I think that's a better characteristic to have as a returner... so long as you're not constantly dancing around and then getting tackled for no gain! SPuDS, Sard and blue_gold_84 3
Fatty Liver Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, trueBlue83 said: I do agree though, that talking about his pace and that he's projecting to set the CFL record, is much too early.... talk like that shouldn't hold any weight until after labour day.... you wouldn't see TSN post those numbers after 4 games on 'what could be'.... we had a returner a couple of years ago that had flashes of brilliance and looked like a game breaker.... and now I can't even remember his name!! Edit: looked it up... Troy Stoudermire Plus, once the other CFL teams realize he's a dangerous threat, they'll treat him as they do Rainey and Banks and block the exits.
Fatty Liver Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, J5V said: You haven't had your coffee yet, have you? lol He's obviously had too much.
Mark F Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Noeller said: Lol I absolutely love the attempt to disregard Lankford's accomplishments by saying "Well, his numbers are only good because he's been healthy and scored a TD"....... Oooooookayyyyyyyyy.......right on. have to give some credit to the coach, and the other players, when a guy does well on returns don't you?
Mark F Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, TBURGESS said: That's how you know you're right. lol
SPuDS Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 Just now, Mark F said: have to give some credit to the coach, and the other players, when a guy does well on returns don't you? not when its a returner/returner comparison..
Mark F Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 Just now, SPuDS said: not when its a returner/returner comparison.. I thought I read people saying he's not very good period. SPuDS 1
blue_gold_84 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 48 minutes ago, J5V said: You haven't had your coffee yet, have you? lol You misspelled beer. Tracker, Mark F and Noeller 3
do or die Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 Coffee is for closers..... Noeller and rebusrankin 2
JohnnyOnTheSpot Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 36 minutes ago, Sard said: Pinball Clemons would like to disagree with your comment. I would agree if we had a time machine.
blue_gold_84 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 1 minute ago, do or die said: Coffee is for closers..... What about openers?
JohnnyOnTheSpot Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, trueBlue83 said: Jackson from the Argos was bouncing off all kinds of Bomber tacklers, and looked pretty great in doing so. Gizmo Williams, Pinball, Stefan Logan... all those guys bounced around and were pretty good at it. If anything, I think that's a better characteristic to have as a returner... so long as you're not constantly dancing around and then getting tackled for no gain! I disagree. A speed guy like Lankford has to pick his spot and commit to it.
SPuDS Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, Mark F said: I thought I read people saying he's not very good period. doh. you are correct..the original discussion was about return teams essentially.. and how Lankford is "best" solely because hes the only one that does returns for the bombers where as others have 1 a 1b returners.. or that he had the return TD.. so it isn't a returner versus returner conversation AND people were bashing Lankford because his stats are "skewed" in some peoples minds.. you are correct tho on the fact the ST does deserve praise for opening the holes and blocking like they do. Mark F 1
bb.king Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Taynted_Fayth said: i remember this moment like it was 10 years ago... that standing O and Stegall Chant for like 5 mins solid was awesome. Hope the bombers give us something huge to cheer about tonight! Great moment! It's unfortunate that he had to set the record wearing that god-awful uniform and logo the Bombers had at the time. It would have looked much sweeter with the current uniform/logo. SPuDS 1
trueBlue83 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 any trash talk expected pregame between Kyries Hebert & Matt Nichols?? Hebert did project him to win MVP this year... tongue in cheek of course!
blue_gold_84 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 Ah, what a game that was. Here's the YouTube clip for anyone who wants to relive that awesomeness: Harbaugh and bearpants 2
trueBlue83 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 ohhhh... back when they sold games out!! the good ol days!
Atomic Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, trueBlue83 said: ohhhh... back when they sold games out!! the good ol days! Home opener this season would have been a sellout at Canad Inns so it's a tough comparison. Goalie 1
Goalie Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, trueBlue83 said: ohhhh... back when they sold games out!! the good ol days! Back in the days of 28000 seat stadiums. Edited July 27, 2017 by Goalie
17to85 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Posted July 27, 2017 2 hours ago, JohnnyOnTheSpot said: I'm still not convinced on Lankford. The one he did take back was in spite of the lane he initially picked being shut down. I put that one down to luck and speed, not returner savvy. The great returners don't bounce around like he does. Noeller 1
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