Fatty Liver Posted July 29, 2017 Report Posted July 29, 2017 17 minutes ago, Yourface said: It was a hell of an effort by Harris as he kept his legs churning but the elbow definitely hit the ground ahead of the goal line. Hollins didn't even graze Lankford on the play. Just watched the replay a couple times. That really was an awful call. Sorry if I don't get your shtick, what is the point of your existence on this Blue Bomber fan forum? Mark F, blue_gold_84, SPuDS and 3 others 6
Yourface Posted July 29, 2017 Report Posted July 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Sorry if I don't get your shtick, what is the point of your existence on this Blue Bomber fan forum? Just keeping things as objective as possible on this forum. blue_gold_84 1
Fatty Liver Posted July 29, 2017 Report Posted July 29, 2017 Just now, Yourface said: Just keeping things as objective as possible on this forum. We already have our beloved Burgess to provide that service, you'll have to find another job. Sorry. blue_gold_84, Mark F, Mr Dee and 4 others 7
Mr Dee Posted July 29, 2017 Report Posted July 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Yourface said: Just keeping things as objective as possible on this forum. Bullfrog. There is ample evidence already provided on this forum from a TSN technician, stating emphatically, that after several different angle looks, Harris was never seen to be down. If you have been following the game threads, you would have seen that. And by the way, how does your opinion that his elbow was down, mean, in any way, that it is an objective opinion? rebusrankin, SPuDS, Bigblue204 and 1 other 4
Yourface Posted July 29, 2017 Report Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: Bullfrog. There is ample evidence already provided on this forum from a TSN technician, stating emphatically, that after several different angle looks, Harris was never seen to be down. If you have been following the game threads, you would have seen that. And by the way, how does your opinion that his elbow was down, mean, in any way, that it is an objective opinion? Because I have a more objective mind than the rest of you. It's not an opinion, it's pretty damn clear. The command centre was too pansy to overturn the call. Edited July 29, 2017 by Yourface SPuDS, bb1, blitzmore and 1 other 1 2 1
Saidin Posted July 29, 2017 Report Posted July 29, 2017 One event that people have been forgetting and I just watched again was that goal line stand at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Two straight stuffs at the 1 yard line, they were even able to push them back a bit. It was a thing of beauty... Mr Dee, SPuDS, Bigblue204 and 1 other 4
Mr Dee Posted July 29, 2017 Report Posted July 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, Yourface said: Because I have a more objective mind than the rest of you. It's not an opinion, it's pretty damn clear. The command centre was too pansy to overturn the call. The only "objective" in your post(s) is to ignore evidence, and provoke. No thanks.. blue_gold_84, Bigblue204, blitzmore and 1 other 4
Yourface Posted July 29, 2017 Report Posted July 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: The only "objective" in your post(s) is to ignore evidence, and provoke. No thanks.. You are the one ignoring evidence, not me. blitzmore 1
Saidin Posted July 29, 2017 Report Posted July 29, 2017 Don't feed the trolls... Tracker, blue_gold_84, Noeller and 3 others 4 1 1
Mr Dee Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 Some week's end Bomber Stats: Sunday Stats - After 6 weeks Winnipeg and Sask have played 1 game less Bomber's Offence 3rd in total points 8th in passing yards 4th in passing TDs 8th in possession time 6th in rushing yards 3rd in rushing TDs 6th tie in sacks allowed 4th in turnovers 4th in red zone Bomber's Defence 8th in points allowed 3rd tie in sacks 1st in interceptions 7th in forced fumbles 9th in pass knockdowns Bomber's Special Teams 7th in punt average 5th in kickoff average 3rd in punt return average 2nd in kick return average 1st in penalties (lowest)
Arnold_Palmer Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 On 7/29/2017 at 11:49 AM, Saidin said: One event that people have been forgetting and I just watched again was that goal line stand at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Two straight stuffs at the 1 yard line, they were even able to push them back a bit. It was a thing of beauty... True but then the next series we let them run the ball down our throats all the way down the field for a touch down. We need to be better on defense if we're going to keep up with EDM/BC/CAL our offense shouldn't and can't be expected to score over 40 points every game to win. blitzmore 1
Tracker Posted July 30, 2017 Report Posted July 30, 2017 so, once you average out the scores, the Bombers are a middling team. Fits.
bb1 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 We need to get our Lbs straightened out and some Dbs back to take the next step....would love to see Flanders in as well...mix of him and Harris would make our run game scary good.?
Mike Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 Now that Thorpe and Fogg are healthy, I'd love to see Flanders come in for Lankford. SPuDS, rebusrankin, Bigblue204 and 2 others 3 2
ALuCsRED Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/29/2017 at 11:49 AM, Yourface said: Because I have a more objective mind than the rest of you. It's not an opinion, it's pretty damn clear. The command centre was too pansy to overturn the call. You mean "it's pretty damn clear. The command centre did not have sufficient evidence to overturn the call on the field." It was ruled a touchdown, so irrefutable evidence is needed to overturn the call. The endzone camera angle can't show a knee on the turf due to the angle that it is at. The sideline camera was blocked by the MTL defence (Kyries Hebert). blue_gold_84 and SPuDS 2
Bigblue204 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/29/2017 at 11:49 AM, Yourface said: Because I have a more objective mind than the rest of you. It's not an opinion, it's pretty damn clear. The command centre was too pansy to overturn the call. "It's my opinion, that my opinion is more objective than the other opinions! and therefore must be the right opinion!" lol classic rider fan. Noeller, SPuDS and rebusrankin 3
Arnold_Palmer Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 Bombers also averaging 33.8 points on offense. Good for second in the league. Even better then BC and EDM two teams no one will stop talking about. rebusrankin and SPuDS 2
SPuDS Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/29/2017 at 10:22 AM, Yourface said: I wouldn't say that's the only bad call they had go against them. I'd say the PI call on Hollins which led to a touchdown was completely undeserved. The Bombers were so quick to scrimmage after that, Chapdelaine didn't even get the chance to consider a challenge. It's also pretty clear to me Harris went down before reaching the goal line on the last play. His right elbow hit the ground ahead of the goal line while the ball had clearly not broken the plane. Seeing as its a TD, wouldn't they have reviewed the play anyway and found pass interference IF it was actually pass interference?
SPuDS Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/29/2017 at 0:12 PM, Yourface said: You are the one ignoring evidence, not me. tsn analyst Chris Edwards reviewed something like a dozen looks and came back to say he did not see him down from any angle. why is this so difficult for you to follow... unless you really are just trollin'.. either way.. You're wrong Colonel Sanders. rebusrankin 1
bearpants Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 9 hours ago, ALuCsRED said: You mean "it's pretty damn clear. The command centre did not have sufficient evidence to overturn the call on the field." It was ruled a touchdown, so irrefutable evidence is needed to overturn the call. The endzone camera angle can't show a knee on the turf due to the angle that it is at. The sideline camera was blocked by the MTL defence (Kyries Hebert). There is definitely one angle where you can clearly see Harris' elbow down... however, it is from the end zone going straight up field (to the north)... you can also see Harris holding the ball up in the air from that replay... it is literally impossible to tell where the ball is at that angle... so if that's the "proof" that someone wants to hang their hat on for a "objective opinion"... good for them, I guess... Also "I have a more objective mind than all of you" reminds of the classic "I know more about football that all of you combined" from our old pal Tuscaloosa Blue... if you want to immediately lose credibility, I recommend one of these statements... Bigblue204 1
Yourface Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 41 minutes ago, SPuDS said: Seeing as its a TD, wouldn't they have reviewed the play anyway and found pass interference IF it was actually pass interference? I was referring to the PI call on Hollins at the 57:10 mark of this video: Awful, awful call. You can also clearly see Harris' elbow going down ahead of the goal line at the 1:55:30 mark. The refs have been VERY friendly toward the Bombers this year, sorry to break it to ya folks. SPuDS and Bigblue204 1 1
blue_gold_84 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Yourface said: Awful, awful call. You can also clearly see Harris' elbow going down ahead of the goal line at the 1:55:30 mark. The refs have been VERY friendly toward the Bombers this year, sorry to break it to ya folks. Then why didn't the Command Center reverse the call? Oh, yeah... Because the evidence was not conclusive. And to suggest the officials have been "very friendly" towards the Bombers is patently false. Like every other team in the league, they've had chintzy calls and weird calls go for and against them. The officiating has been horrible in pretty much every single game. Bigblue204, Yourface and SPuDS 1 1 1
bearpants Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 17 minutes ago, Yourface said: I was referring to the PI call on Hollins at the 57:10 mark of this video: Awful, awful call. You can also clearly see Harris' elbow going down ahead of the goal line at the 1:55:30 mark. The refs have been VERY friendly toward the Bombers this year, sorry to break it to ya folks. No one is arguing about that PI call... it was a weak call... similar to some of the weak calls that went in Mtl's favour in the first half... And that angle is exactly what I was talking about... you can see Harris' elbow down... but you can also see the ball in the air with zero proof whatsoever that it is short of the goal line... sorry to break it to ya... Super Duper Negatron, SPuDS, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 4
Super Duper Negatron Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 29 minutes ago, Yourface said: I was referring to the PI call on Hollins at the 57:10 mark of this video: Awful, awful call. You can also clearly see Harris' elbow going down ahead of the goal line at the 1:55:30 mark. The refs have been VERY friendly toward the Bombers this year, sorry to break it to ya folks. The fact that you say "clearly" makes you lose all credibility. How anyone can watch that video and say anything but inconclusive is beyond me. Nash00, blue_gold_84, Mr Dee and 1 other 4
17to85 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 40 minutes ago, Yourface said: I was referring to the PI call on Hollins at the 57:10 mark of this video: Awful, awful call. You can also clearly see Harris' elbow going down ahead of the goal line at the 1:55:30 mark. The refs have been VERY friendly toward the Bombers this year, sorry to break it to ya folks. Yes but everyone gets iffy calls made, what smart teams do is snap the ball quickly so there is no chance to challenge. Don't get mad cause the Bombers were heads up enough to snap the ball quick. as for your insistence that Harris Elbow was down, where's the ball when it's down? It's damned close to the plane of the goal line, how can you say it's not broken the plane before the elbow goes down? You really don't have to break it to you, you're just trying to troll claiming objectivity but you really aren't objective, just biased against the Bombers. The only people who think that there was conclusive proof that Harris didn't get in are the people who want the Bombers to have lost. You need evidence to over turn a call and there simply is no evidence there one way or another. SPuDS, Fatty Liver, Sard and 2 others 5
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