Smoke 'n' Mirrors

[Tracker]

Bombers have been winning in a manner which left them open to being described as more lucky than good. This game was a real crucible. For all his hubris, Jones is a darned good defensive coach and has built a very good defense in Regina, so this win cannot be written off as  lucky. Bombers were full value for the win- unlike last week where two plays in the first quarter rattled the Bombers and the Riders got excited. 

[17to85]

our coordinators might be slow out of the gate but they adjust as well as anyone so coming from such a poor outing on Labour Day I really didn't worry about them coming up with better adjustments than the Riders would bring. 

[HarryCarayGary]

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

our coordinators might be slow out of the gate but they adjust as well as anyone so coming from such a poor outing on Labour Day I really didn't worry about them coming up with better adjustments than the Riders would bring. 

They adjusted beautifully, especially on O. 

I thought we got a fair number of lucky breaks on calls in the first half, and when they did they took full advantage of them for sure.  Got nervous with a few that should have been picked off as well.  The game was pretty tight in the first half, but I think we got lucky with that one PI.  The punt return was a thing of beauty.  The big thing was  this D that keeps giving up the big plays finally got turnovers.  I said before that the turnovers masked some of those busts IMO, and it showed again today.  Adjustments in the second half equated to domination.  Interesting season series.  Essentially a game of equals in the preseason game and first regular season meeting and then a dominating showing by each team respectively.  

[rebusrankin]

Lucky breaks other than the PI? How about the Riders blatent hold on their big run at the start of their third td drive?

[HarryCarayGary]

48 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Lucky breaks other than the PI? How about the Riders blatent hold on their big run at the start of their third td drive?

Things go like this in every game.  It will always happen.  The Bombers had a few breaks and took advantage, that is all that matters.

[Floyd]

1 minute ago, HarryCarayGary said:

Things go like this in every game.  It will always happen.  The Bombers had a few breaks and took advantage, that is all that matters.

Interceptions are not 'breaks'

[rebusrankin]

13 minutes ago, HarryCarayGary said:

Things go like this in every game.  It will always happen.  The Bombers had a few breaks and took advantage, that is all that matters.

Seriously name a break other than the PI?

[IC Khari]

26 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Seriously name a break other than the PI?

[IC Khari]

Rider breaks ... blatant holding on Okpalaugo (non call), blatant spear on LeFevour by Sask after a successful terd down gamble (non call), called no catch on the D Adams reception on the first drive of the game that was about as good as the one made by Bagg later near the goaline ... 

Edited September 10, 2017 by IC Khari

[Floyd]

6 minutes ago, IC Khari said:

Rider breaks ... blatant holding on Okpalaugo (non call), blatant spear on LeFevour by Sask after a successful terd down gamble (non call), called no catch on the D Adams reception on the first drive of the game that was about as good as the one made by Bagg later near the goaline ... 

Hurl at MLB...

[IC Khari]

7 minutes ago, Floyd said:

Hurl at MLB...

Being in a nice smelling city for this game ...

[HarryCarayGary]

1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

Seriously name a break other than the PI?

 

I thought The PI allowed for a huge momentum surge, so it was pretty big, especially going into half.  Take the goggles off.  For a fast example, the one interception I don't know how we were not called offside.  It seemed pretty clear.  I am not saying that the riders didn't get some breaks, I never said that remotely.  I said that when the Bombers got them they took advantage.  This is a good thing.   These breaks happen all the time (especially in a Proulx officiated game), it is part of the game.  Difference was we capitalized a lot more than they did on some of the 'iffy' reffing, and yes, it was iffy, both ways.  I know a lot of people like to look at things really tinted in how they look, that is not me,  I cheer for the Bombers as much as anyone, but that does not mean that I can't be unbiased and not look at the grander picture, because I am a football fan first.  I don't know how someone could sit there and say the Bombers  were not beneficiaries of a few calls, and I could say the exact same thing for the Riders.  We just did something with them.

[IC Khari]

6 minutes ago, HarryCarayGary said:

 

I thought The PI allowed for a huge momentum surge, so it was pretty big, especially going into half.  Take the goggles off.  For a fast example, the one interception I don't know how we were not called offside.  It seemed pretty clear.  I am not saying that the riders didn't get some breaks, I never said that remotely.  I said that when the Bombers got them they took advantage.  This is a good thing.   These breaks happen all the time (especially in a Proulx officiated game), it is part of the game.  Difference was we capitalized a lot more than they did on some of the 'iffy' reffing, and yes, it was iffy, both ways.  I know a lot of people like to look at things really tinted in how they look, that is not me,  I cheer for the Bombers as much as anyone, but that does not mean that I can't be unbiased and not look at the grander picture, because I am a football fan first.  I don't know how someone could sit there and say the Bombers  were not beneficiaries of a few calls, and I could say the exact same thing for the Riders.  We just did something with them.

[HarryCarayGary]

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Edited September 10, 2017 by HarryCarayGary

[HarryCarayGary]

3 minutes ago, IC Khari said:

riiiiight

 

well, hopefully a few people around here look at things objectively.  It is nice to actually talk ball without goggles the whole time.

[Floyd]

15 minutes ago, HarryCarayGary said:

riiiiight

 

well, hopefully a few people around here look at things objectively.  It is nice to actually talk ball without goggles the whole time.

[Dragon37]

Luck didn't win this game. they didn't luck their way into 48 points and luck their way to holding the riders to 28.

There is still work to be done but when is that not the case. I don't know a team that doesn't need to fix something.

[Judd]

The refs had no effect on the outcome of this one the same way the fake injuries had no effect on our loss.

The better team murdered the lesser one. The end. 

The riders are no longer a threat to us so leave them in the rear view mirror where they belong.

[TBURGESS]

The Bombers picked the balls off that our DB's got their hands on. The Riders didn't. Could have been a different game if the Riders held on to a couple of the INT balls that Nichols threw up in the first quarter.

The phantom PI in the end zone at the end of the  half was A game changer. We went into halftime with a 9 point lead instead of a 5 point lead. I have no idea why Jones didn't use his challenge flag on that one. We won by 20, so the extra 4 points wasn't THE game changer.

The Riders made a ton of mistakes that we capitalized on. Carter running it out of the end zone to the 10 then backtracking to the 5 just to get tackled. The stupid onside kick that sucked all the advantage out of their TD and gave us great field position. The stupid onside punt that gave us a short field and more points. My absolute favorite tho was their punt team going to the wrong side of the field because our returner went there and our blockers pointed that way. That one cost them a huge 90+ yard punt return for a TD.

I was wondering before the game who the pretenders and who the contenders were. Now I know for sure.

[Mr Dee]

Boy, are we ever lucky to have a truly unbiased, non-tinted-glasses-wearer, totally objective football fan on board.  And the first one to boot! So lucky...

[Jpan85]

Never let them get momentum  every time they had big play the Bombers were next to get one.

[Mr Dee]

3 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

My absolute favorite tho was their punt team going to the wrong side of the field because our returner went there and our blockers pointed that way. That one cost them a huge 90+ yard punt return for a TD.

I'm not going to say it was Saskatchewan's mistake, but rather a brilliantly orchestrated, practiced football play designed and executed perfectly. Like any well designed play, it involves deceiving the opposing team, and leading them to do what you want them to do.

[Floyd]

Lots of excuses for the riders on this board... wtf.

Bombers just flipped the script that's all...  Santos-Knox INT on the third play of the game was key - that was not a Sask mistake, that was all extra effort by S-Knox

Pressure by Poop Johnson all game - guy makes a huge difference to the DL and the D

Roosevelt TD was Sask capitalizing on a mistake by Jones/Hurl imo... no one in the middle  

Walker's awful tackle attempt classifies as a mistake

Adams PI call was bogus yup - but Wpg would still get FG otherwise

Game was already over by the time Bridge came in...

[Judd]

Whatever, the refs let the riders hold all day including the blatant one on ogopogo that would've been a sack but instead allowed GLENN to run for 12

[blue_gold_84]

57 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

I'm not going to say it was Saskatchewan's mistake, but rather a brilliantly orchestrated, practiced football play designed and executed perfectly. Like any well designed play, it involves deceiving the opposing team, and leading them to do what you want them to do.

O'Shea being "underhanded" again, without a doubt.