Around the NHL 2017/2018

[kelownabomberfan]

5 hours ago, Atomic said:

Maybe.  Although he is one of the best coaches of all time while Hartman is just some 23 year old kid.

How did I know that my comment would cause this kind of **** reply.  Even Cal Murphy had a best before date.  It's not about Hartman, it's more about missing the playoffs.  Coaches are hired to be fired.  I was just floating the possibility that maybe it's time for a change of scenery, ala Babcock, for Coach Q.

[Atomic]

4 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

How did I know that my comment would cause this kind of **** reply.  Even Cal Murphy had a best before date.  It's not about Hartman, it's more about missing the playoffs.  Coaches are hired to be fired.  I was just floating the possibility that maybe it's time for a change of scenery, ala Babcock, for Coach Q.

If Chicago wants to go in the toilet ala Detroit, then yeah it probably would be a good move.

[kelownabomberfan]

Just now, Atomic said:

If Chicago wants to go in the toilet ala Detroit, then yeah it probably would be a good move.

they are already circling the drain.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

13 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

How did I know that my comment would cause this kind of **** reply.  Even Cal Murphy had a best before date. 

Don't u go knockin Cal Murphy. Never missed the playoffs as WBB Coach/GM. Never!

Edited February 27, 2018 by FrostyWinnipeg

[Floyd]

Babcock's departure is not the reason Detroit is a mess now...  they're team is ancient

A better question might be - are Babcock and Quenneville the reason for their team's success or a result of a strong core?

Once that core ages or prices itself out of the market...  they start to look pretty mortal.  

 

[Floyd]

Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Don't u go knockin Cal Murphy. Never missed the playoffs as WBB Coach/GM. Never!

I'm guessing you're under 35...?

[kelownabomberfan]

2 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Don't u go knockin Cal Murphy. Never missed the playoffs as WBB Coach/GM. Never!

Cal is my avatar and my favorite Bomber coach/GM of all time.  It wasn't a knock on him.  That was kind of my point though.  Even Cal, as great as he was, reached a point where it was time to leave.  Look at Wally.  You don't think it is time for him to leave BC?

[kelownabomberfan]

3 minutes ago, Floyd said:

Babcock's departure is not the reason Detroit is a mess now...  they're team is ancient

A better question might be - are Babcock and Quenneville the reason for their team's success or a result of a strong core?

Once that core ages or prices itself out of the market...  they start to look pretty mortal.  

 

I'd like to see Willie Desjardins given another shot in the NHL.  He got screwed in Vancouver.  Punch Imlach couldn't have done anything with that dumpster fire.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

1 minute ago, kelownabomberfan said:

I'd like to see Willie Desjardins given another shot in the NHL.  He got screwed in Vancouver.  Punch Imlach couldn't have done anything with that dumpster fire.

Born in one of my fave Canuck towns.

[kelownabomberfan]

1 minute ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Born in one of my fave Canuck towns.

because Gord Kluzak was from there? 

When I was 18 I was thinking of trying out for the Calgary Dinos hockey team, and I went in to see their coach about it.  He told me that their roster was full, and that maybe I should just focus on my studies and give intramural hockey a try.  He was really good and classy about it, because he knew he was basically telling a young kid his hockey dream was over.  That man was Willie Desjardins.

 

[iHeart]

1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

 

how the heck did either of them not get ejected?

[Floyd]

Brassard also saying he would have waived his no trade clause...  lots of people predicted that Winnipeg would become a lot more likeable once we started winning

[iHeart]

BREAKING: Vancouver will host the 2019 NHL Draft

[The Unknown Poster]

16 minutes ago, Floyd said:

Brassard also saying he would have waived his no trade clause...  lots of people predicted that Winnipeg would become a lot more likeable once we started winning

Good to know. Confirms it didn’t get far enough for him to be asked. Vegas stepped in to help pens get it done. 

 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

2 minutes ago, iHeart said:

BREAKING: Vancouver will host the 2019 NHL Draft

Eventually we'll get it in exchange for never having the ASG.

[blue_gold_84]

13 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Eventually we'll get it in exchange for never having the ASG.

I could see Winnipeg hosting a draft once True North Square has been completed.

[Noeller]

3 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

I could see Winnipeg hosting a draft once True North Square has been completed.

this was my exact thought, too....it'll be phenomenal...

[The Unknown Poster]

 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

In the voice of Bruce Willis...Give this to Paddock. Make sure Paddock gets that!

[kelownabomberfan]

40 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

a record I doubt I will see broken in my lifetime, with the way the NHL game is played now.

[Floyd]

41 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

a record I doubt I will see broken in my lifetime, with the way the NHL game is played now.

I think it was just as hard if not harder back then...  there was still a red line - remember how many passes from Housley to Selanne were called back?

 

[iHeart]

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

holy crap that means my cousin is going to be 25 soon

 

my aunt and uncle were at the game where Teemu scored his record and my aunt was pregnant with my cousin....who for some reason is a leafs fan

[Rich]

19 minutes ago, Floyd said:

I think it was just as hard if not harder back then...  there was still a red line - remember how many passes from Housley to Selanne were called back?

 

Scoring was way easier and higher back then.

Last season Connor McDavid led the way with 100 points.  (30G 70A).  The 20th top scorer was Auston Matthews with 69 points (40G 29A)

In Teemu's rookie season, Lemieux was top scorer with 160 points (69G 91A).  And he did that in 60 games.    The 20th top scorer was Fleury with 100 points (34G 66A).

So Lemieux's assists alone would put him as the 2nd highest scorer last year.  His goals alone in the top 20.    And it wasn't just Lemieux with those kinds of numbers. 

#2 - Lafontaine 148 points

#3 - Oates 142 points

#4 Yzerman 137 points

Teemu was 5th with 132 points.

 

 

[Floyd]

5 minutes ago, Rich said:

Scoring was way easier and higher back then.

Last season Connor McDavid led the way with 100 points.  (30G 70A).  The 20th top scorer was Auston Matthews with 69 points (40G 29A)

In Teemu's rookie season, Lemieux was top scorer with 160 points (69G 91A).  The 20th top scorer was Fleury with 100 points (34G 66A).

So Lemieux's assists alone would put him as the 2nd highest scorer last year.  His goals alone in the top 20.    And it wasn't just Lemieux with those kinds of numbers. 

#2 - Lafontaine 148 points

#3 - Oates 142 points

#4 Yzerman 137 points

Teemu was 5th with 132 points.

 

 

Kids are just lazy these days.

[kelownabomberfan]

6 minutes ago, Rich said:

Scoring was way easier and higher back then.

Last season Connor McDavid led the way with 100 points.  (30G 70A).  The 20th top scorer was Auston Matthews with 69 points (40G 29A)

In Teemu's rookie season, Lemieux was top scorer with 160 points (69G 91A).  And he did that in 60 games.    The 20th top scorer was Fleury with 100 points (34G 66A).

So Lemieux's assists alone would put him as the 2nd highest scorer last year.  His goals alone in the top 20.    And it wasn't just Lemieux with those kinds of numbers. 

#2 - Lafontaine 148 points

#3 - Oates 142 points

#4 Yzerman 137 points

Teemu was 5th with 132 points.

 

 

That's what I was trying to say - it was not uncommon to have many players that were well over 100 pts in scoring in a season.  Now you barely get more than one a year.  Quite a different situation.