Fatty Liver Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 4 hours ago, rebusrankin said: I like the Foketi signing. OL Continuity and options which is nice, especially for us who recall leaner times in that area. I wonder if they promised Foketi some playing time to get him to re-sign or if he's just happy to be on the payroll and willing to wait for an opportunity. Either way, great to have him back. Stickem and rebusrankin 2
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 5 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Doug Brown speculating, Richie Hall stays and we've seen the last of Heath, Bond, Westerman and Wild in B&G. https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/all-hail-hall-its-a-sure-bet-hell-be-back-with-big-blue-466531723.html If that happens, it's stupid. Plain freaking stupid. Mark F 1
Tracker Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: If that happens, it's stupid. Plain freaking stupid. My first reaction would not have been allowed in this forum. We can learn to live without Bond, but I do not believe we can live with Hall. If Dougie is correct (and his batting average is pretty good), we have another year of misery to look forward to. Sorry, that should have read "to dread". Fornication.
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, tracker said: My first reaction would not have been allowed in this forum. We can learn to live without Bond, but I do not believe we can live with Hall. If Dougie is correct (and his batting average is pretty good), we have another year of misery to look forward to. Sorry, that should have read "to dread". Fornication. With Hall, it'll be another wasted year with his stupid schemes & player combos. Why the **** do we have a GM? If O'Shea doesn't want to make a move then Walters should step in & do it for him.
WBBFanWest Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: With Hall, it'll be another wasted year with his stupid schemes & player combos. Why the **** do we have a GM? If O'Shea doesn't want to make a move then Walters should step in & do it for him. If the GM is good at what he does, he lets the HC be the HC. If he's a bonehead, he steps in and mettles. I think Walters is a little too smart to do that. If O'Shea really believes that Hall is the best option, then the HC should have who the HC wants. Everyone involved knows that more is required this coming year. If O'Shea wants to roll with Hall, he knows what happens if things don't work out. bearpants, Tracker, blue_gold_84 and 3 others 3 3
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, WBBFanWest said: If the GM is good at what he does, he lets the HC be the HC. If he's a bonehead, he steps in and mettles. I think Walters is a little too smart to do that. If O'Shea really believes that Hall is the best option, then the HC should have who the HC wants. Everyone involved knows that more is required this coming year. If O'Shea wants to roll with Hall, he knows what happens if things don't work out. If there's one thing Hall has shown with his defense is that it's consistent on a yearly basis. Consistently putrid. It's what is dragging theBombers down & the reason other teams will have passed us next season.
WBBFanWest Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said: If there's one thing Hall has shown with his defense is that it's consistent on a yearly basis. Consistently putrid. It's what is dragging theBombers down & the reason other teams will have passed us next season. Even if that is all true, the GM would be an idiot to meddle. You hire a HC to be the HC. If you don't trust him to do what's right for the team, you don't overide him, you fire him. SPuDS, blue_gold_84 and Noeller 2 1
Tracker Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, WBBFanWest said: If the GM is good at what he does, he lets the HC be the HC. If he's a bonehead, he steps in and mettles. I think Walters is a little too smart to do that. If O'Shea really believes that Hall is the best option, then the HC should have who the HC wants. Everyone involved knows that more is required this coming year. If O'Shea wants to roll with Hall, he knows what happens if things don't work out. I would like to believe that O'Shea is not so rigid in his thinking that he is willing to tie his fate to Hall's and go down with him, but he wouldn't be the first smart coach to make dumb decisions.
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 59 minutes ago, WBBFanWest said: Even if that is all true, the GM would be an idiot to meddle. You hire a HC to be the HC. If you don't trust him to do what's right for the team, you don't overide him, you fire him. Well...
Tracker Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 I suspect that the longer it takes for us to hear of Hall's fate, the more likely it is that he is being retained. Sad. rebusrankin 1
Noeller Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 @WBBFanWest gets how to be a manager.....as someone with (limited) time in management/HR, I echo his statements... Bigblue204 and SPuDS 1 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) Then O'Shea will go down for this decision if his defense sucks again in 2018. The bar's been raised. No longer is it okay just to make the playoffs & lose. Expectations are that we should win a Grey Cup. If our defense gives up large chunks of real estate against both the pass & run next year, if Hurl is a starter again & we lose in the playoffs there'll be a good chance our HC will be gone. Just because he's stubborn about Hall. Edited December 27, 2017 by SpeedFlex27 rebusrankin and Tracker 1 1
Atomic Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 24 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Then O'Shea will go down for this decision if his defense sucks again in 2018. The bar's been raised. No longer is it okay just to make the playoffs & lose. Expectations are that we should win a Grey Cup. If our defense gives up large chunks of real estate against both the pass & run next year, if Hurl is a starter again & we lose in the playoffs there'll be a good chance our HC will be gone. Just because he's stubborn about Hall. I believe O'Shea will be back if they win a playoff game next year and he will be gone if they don't. Everything else doesn't really matter and won't factor into the decision. rebusrankin, SPuDS and TBURGESS 1 2
Tracker Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Atomic said: I believe O'Shea will be back if they win a playoff game next year and he will be gone if they don't. Everything else doesn't really matter and won't factor into the decision. I suspect that the more probable scenario might be that if Hall is returned and the team defence continues to give up the big plays, Hall and maybe even O'Shea will be gone by Labour Day, replaced by God knows who.
Bigblue204 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 24 minutes ago, tracker said: I suspect that the more probable scenario might be that if Hall is returned and the team defence continues to give up the big plays, Hall and maybe even O'Shea will be gone by Labour Day, replaced by God knows who. Not Oshea, but Hall for sure. Likely replaced by Oshea and another coach already on staff. SPuDS 1
Mr Dee Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 The Moe we see, the Moe we like!! MOBomberFan, bearpants, GCJenks and 13 others 13 3
Jpan85 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 Also sounds like he will be going no where Floyd, JCon, blue_gold_84 and 3 others 5 1
Booch Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 Be the dumbest off season move to let him walk or not sign him..injury or no injury. Like i said before, Achilles rehab depending on injury (tear/rupture/spagehetti tear) a guy now can be back to resuming full activity in 6-8 months Mark F, rebusrankin, Sard and 1 other 1 3
Atomic Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 3 hours ago, tracker said: I suspect that the more probable scenario might be that if Hall is returned and the team defence continues to give up the big plays, Hall and maybe even O'Shea will be gone by Labour Day, replaced by God knows who. Not if the team is winning. Let's not forget we've gone 23-13 over the past two seasons even with the porous defence. No one gets fired mid season if we're winning. blue_gold_84, rebusrankin and Bigblue204 3
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 If our offense falters, we'll be in big trouble next year. Our offense wins games. Seldom does our defense with Ritchie Hall calling the schemes.
Atomic Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 12 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: If our offense falters, we'll be in big trouble next year. Our offense wins games. Seldom does our defense with Ritchie Hall calling the schemes. To be fair our defence absolutely did steal a couple games for us this past season. johnzo, SPuDS and blue_gold_84 1 2
M.O.A.B. Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 I wonder how this D will look with a legit MLB - like Sherrit, Reed or Dean - all pending FAs blue_gold_84, SPuDS and Mark F 3
Tracker Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 4 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said: I wonder how this D will look with a legit MLB - like Sherrit, Reed or Dean - all pending FAs That would stop the runs up the middle and the 5-8 yard passes but the problem of the explosive 20-30 pass completions remains, SPuDS 1
rebusrankin Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, tracker said: That would stop the runs up the middle and the 5-8 yard passes but the problem of the explosive 20-30 pass completions remains, I guess it could be argued that the lack of a true MLB led to players being out of position due to trying to compensate and that such an addition would reduce those explosive plays.
Tracker Posted December 28, 2017 Report Posted December 28, 2017 17 hours ago, Atomic said: Not if the team is winning. Let's not forget we've gone 23-13 over the past two seasons even with the porous defence. No one gets fired mid season if we're winning. I am not so sure. We've been through two very similar seasons in a row where the team did ok during the regular season only to be let down by the defence in the first round of the playoffs. Next year has to be different.
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