TrueBlue Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, Atomic said: How many players can the Bombers truly say we have the best at their position in the league? Probably just Stanley Bryant and Travis Bond. And it looks like we're going to let one walk. That's too bad. And the Oilers have McDavid, but I'd rather have Scheifele and Wheeler for less. SPuDS 1
Atomic Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, TrueBlue said: And the Oilers have McDavid, but I'd rather have Scheifele and Wheeler for less. Davis gonna lace up the skates now? EDIT: **** what thread am I in? Edited January 16, 2018 by Atomic wbbfan and Floyd 2
wbbfan Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 10 hours ago, TrueBlue said: Poll Question: Would you rather resign Bond or Randle? Randle is a great player. He could very easily end up a HOFer and in the all time great bomber db discussion. Bond is the best OL weve dug up since garrick jones, and even better then him. With the difference in rules between Dbs and OL, I think a single great OL can have a great impact then a DB. Bond is a bit younger, and as rare as his ability is finding that in a man his size is even rarer. Guard is generally consider easier to play then tackle, especially blind side tackle. But playing guard especially in the cfl at such a huge stature is also hard. I dont doubt he could play out side and be great at it. Make it a healthy Mo vs bond or randle vs hardrick and I think you have a very close call.
Noeller Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 The only post that matters in this thread is the one that said "I'm pissed off we have to choose".... wbbfan 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 9 hours ago, 17to85 said: Randle no question. I really do think we need to work towards 3 Canadians on the OL. Remember last time we did that? And Neufeld was part of that. He barely played when he started. I don't know how things will be any different this time. Floyd and Blueandgold 1 1
17to85 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Remember last time we did that? And Neufeld was part of that. He barely played when he started. I don't know how things will be any different this time. They've spent how many high draft picks on offensive linemen? That's how it will be different. We gotta play Canadians somewhere, might as well be in positions they've invested the draft picks in. SPuDS and Jpan85 1 1
Atomic Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 Yeah you'd think between Goossen, Chungh, Couture, Spooner, Neufeld, Cody Speller and the 7th overall pick this year, we can manage to start 3 Canadian OL. wbbfan, blue_gold_84, Tracker and 2 others 2 3
17to85 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 And if they can't then they better re-evaluate their drafting strategy. Noeller and SPuDS 1 1
SPuDS Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Atomic said: Yeah you'd think between Goossen, Chungh, Couture, Spooner, Neufeld, Cody Speller and the 7th overall pick this year, we can manage to start 3 Canadian OL. I believe that is usually the number of linemen you'd want if trying to go 3 nationals on the line. one backup per plus another... so technically, we would be thin imo with "draft pick #1" needing to be considered as depth. I imagine we are angling towards this idea in theory but can we make it work with who we have now? Couture can backup Goosen and/or start as a guard I'd assume.. Spooner, Guard/centre backup. Speller, unknown. Neufeld start at guard/backup at guard. seems like we are 2 injuries away from panic mode.. Edited January 17, 2018 by SPuDS theorizing depth..
17to85 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, SPuDS said: seems like we are 2 injuries away from panic mode.. Any position on the team where this doesn't hold true? Floyd 1
blue_gold_84 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Any position on the team where this doesn't hold true? Or any team in the league. Tracker and Floyd 1 1
Atomic Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 Most teams only dress 6 OL on gameday, with the odd exception dressing 7. I think you'd find 5 National OL on the 46-man roster of a team starting 3, with perhaps another on the IR and another on the PR. We have the depth to start 3. I'm less concerned about depth and more concerned about whether we have a third man who is good enough to be the opening day starter at guard. johnzo 1
SPuDS Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Any position on the team where this doesn't hold true? well when you have multiple people in a unit where one person can fill a few spots, I tend to think its a bit different. 20 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Or any team in the league. for o-line and d-line sure.. RB or LB on the other hand.. 1 minute ago, Atomic said: Most teams only dress 6 OL on gameday, with the odd exception dressing 7. I think you'd find 5 National OL on the 46-man roster of a team starting 3, with perhaps another on the IR and another on the PR. We have the depth to start 3. I'm less concerned about depth and more concerned about whether we have a third man who is good enough to be the opening day starter at guard. sure, on established teams with roles defined and everyone on the same page.. with us switching from 2-3 and not really knowing who is gonna go where (or how long they may last health/skill-wise) I think its a bit more prudent for us to have 6-7 linemen available out of camp and work it down to 5-6 possibly at some time. I get what people are saying, for sure but I also don't want to be in a situation where our o-line is in shambles by week 6 and we have no solutions for it.. o-line is too important to the success of this team.. we finally have one that is solid and dependable.. something we haven't seen here in damn near a decade.. Mark H. and Mark F 2
Blueandgold Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 On 2018-01-16 at 2:31 PM, TrueBlue said: No offence at all to Bond, but I'd argue Randle is more of the "core" of this team than Bond. No offence to Randle, but how good was this team before Bond entered the starting lineup? The entire O-Line went from below average to great, simply due to Travis Bond starting over Patty Neufeld. Floyd and Mark F 2
Atomic Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, SPuDS said: sure, on established teams with roles defined and everyone on the same page.. No, every team
Bigblue204 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 17 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Remember last time we did that? And Neufeld was part of that. He barely played when he started. I don't know how things will be any different this time. 33 minutes ago, Atomic said: We have the depth to start 3. I'm less concerned about depth and more concerned about whether we have a third man who is good enough to be the opening day starter at guard. Did no one watch the last few games of the year? Neuf played just fine. His health I can understand being in question. But his ability to play guard well has been established as far as I'm concerned. Mark F 1
Floyd Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 If this team feels that Couture is ready and that Spooner/Neufeld is the right 6th OL... I'm okay with this - if Neufeld is pencilled in, this is another Hurl type move Again - Bond is worth both Foketi/Hardrick... we could easily have a team with both him and Randle that argument is a straw dog If Bryant does down in game one, I'd much rather have Bond shifting over than anyone else on the roster right now...
Floyd Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 Some pretty deep insight here... ✔@Darren_Cameron CFL free agency less than a month away (four weeks yesterday), the #Bombers are still actively trying to pursue many of their pending free agents. Others will not be offered. Any questions on the offseason, send them over. Go Blue!
Booch Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 If Bryant was to go down in a game Hardrick I would think would shift over..and Neufeld to Right Tackle...any extended time off then in comes Foketti...and I'd be fine on that. To be honest..Foketti would start at a tackle position on any team in the league last year...and this year as well...he is a real luxury that we have been able to keep him satisfied for 3 years now and not have bolted on us Noeller, Tracker, Mark F and 2 others 3 2
Jpan85 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 Once again if Chris Walby thinks Neufeld is very talented than I'll take his word over others. Bigblue204, SPuDS, Mark F and 1 other 3 1
Noeller Posted January 18, 2018 Report Posted January 18, 2018 there's never a doubt about Neufeld's talent....only his ability to stay healthy..... Bigblue204, Tracker, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 3 1
Noeller Posted January 18, 2018 Report Posted January 18, 2018 I think this belongs here - another solid piece from Tait...catching up with Danny Mac to talk offseason FA camps... https://www.bluebombers.com/2018/01/17/danny-mcmanus-breaking-free-agent-camps/ wbbfan and SPuDS 2
wbbfan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Jpan85 said: Once again if Chris Walby thinks Neufeld is very talented than I'll take his word over others. I understand the logic here, at the same time walby similarly attached him self to some very underwhelming OL like this in the past. That said The issue with him isnt based on talent. Its consistency, health, and execution. He could back up for another 5-8 years in the league for sure. But if he is ever gonna be more then a below average starter and above average back up hes gotta figure it out quick fast and in a hurry. * some of the guys he has made similar claims about include Jermese jones, and benedict ibisi. Particularly he was very high on jones, they did a pretty good segment on the two and how much they had talked about playing the line. Edited January 18, 2018 by wbbfan Floyd 1
blueandgoldguy Posted January 18, 2018 Report Posted January 18, 2018 If Neufeld starts they will be lucky to get two-thirds of the season out of him. Hopefully there are better options to start at guard if Bond is not re-signed.
Fatty Liver Posted January 18, 2018 Report Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, SPuDS said: I believe that is usually the number of linemen you'd want if trying to go 3 nationals on the line. one backup per plus another... so technically, we would be thin imo with "draft pick #1" needing to be considered as depth. I imagine we are angling towards this idea in theory but can we make it work with who we have now? Couture can backup Goosen and/or start as a guard I'd assume.. Spooner, Guard/centre backup. Speller, unknown. Neufeld start at guard/backup at guard. seems like we are 2 injuries away from panic mode.. I don't remember Speller, how did they pick him up and when? SPuDS 1
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