Game 58 : Legal @ Illegal

[FrostyWinnipeg]

Time : Friday 7. TSN3

Stats : Jets 33-15-9 , Avs 30-21-4

Streaks : Jets W1, Avs W1

 

Edited February 14, 2018 by FrostyWinnipeg

[Floyd]

Hope we keep the lines

CSW

perrault-little-roslo

Laine-copp-ehlers

and maybe Dano-Petan-armia

 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

11 minutes ago, Floyd said:

Hope we keep the lines

CSW

perrault-little-roslo

Laine-copp-ehlers

and maybe Dano-Petan-armia

 

Those are damn interesting lines. Well done.

 

Edited February 14, 2018 by FrostyWinnipeg

[Goalie]

Lemieux Petan Armia more than likely if hes healthy. Dano is trade fodder now

[Arnold_Palmer]

I love the fact that we can have talented players on all four lines, with guys who can also come in and not skip a beat and play our bottom six. Long gone are the days of Thorburn, Peluso, Glass, etc wasting roster spots and being an anchor on whatever line they were on. 

[Goalie]

Just now, Arnold_Palmer said:

I love the fact that we can have talented players on all four lines, with guys who can also come in and not skip a beat and play our bottom six. Long gone are the days of Thorburn, Peluso, Glass, etc wasting roster spots and being an anchor on whatever line they were on. 

Hendricks and Tanev disagree. 

They arent slugs but... Thorburn was better than Tanev. He scored more points. 

[Arnold_Palmer]

9 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Hendricks and Tanev disagree. 

They arent slugs but... Thorburn was better than Tanev. He scored more points. 

Hendricks and Tanev are miles better then Thorburn ever was. 

[Goalie]

1 minute ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Hendricks and Tanev are miles better then Thorburn ever was. 

Nope. 

Tanev is an Offensive blackhole. 

16 career points in 100 NHL games. 

[blue_gold_84]

Tanev averages 0.16 PPG. Thorburn averages 0.17 PPG. Hendricks averages 0.20 PPG.

Tanev's possession metrics are better than both Thorburn's and Hendricks'. Tanev also came cheaper than either of them.

Before spouting off garbage comments, look at some numbers next time.

[Arnold_Palmer]

18 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Nope. 

Tanev is an Offensive blackhole. 

16 career points in 100 NHL games. 

Tanev can skate, play defense, and hit. We all know Tanevs limits on offense, but all Thorburn can do is take a punch. 

[Floyd]

58 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Those are damn interesting lines. Well done.

I can't take credit... Maurice's lines from second half of last game...

Okay, I did add Dano. <pats self on back>

[Goalie]

33 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Tanev averages 0.16 PPG. Thorburn averages 0.17 PPG. Hendricks averages 0.20 PPG.

Tanev's possession metrics are better than both Thorburn's and Hendricks'. Tanev also came cheaper than either of them.

Before spouting off garbage comments, look at some numbers next time.

I did. Points. Thats all that matters. Fancy stats mean **** all. 

Bottom line.. Tanev isnt good... Hendricks isnt good. Thorburn wasnt good. 

Next time realize hockey is about scoring the most goals.. Tanev has 6 career goals

Edited February 14, 2018 by Goalie

[kelownabomberfan]

Tanev has a role and he fills it. The Jets are definitely better with him in the line up. Especially will be valuable in the playoffs.  Yeah I said the p word.

Edited February 14, 2018 by kelownabomberfan

[The Unknown Poster]

8 hours ago, Goalie said:

I did. Points. Thats all that matters. Fancy stats mean **** all. 

Bottom line.. Tanev isnt good... Hendricks isnt good. Thorburn wasnt good. 

Next time realize hockey is about scoring the most goals.. Tanev has 6 career goals

This is incorrect.

[blue_gold_84]

10 hours ago, Goalie said:

I did. Points. Thats all that matters. Fancy stats mean **** all. 

Bottom line.. Tanev isnt good... Hendricks isnt good. Thorburn wasnt good. 

Next time realize hockey is about scoring the most goals.. Tanev has 6 career goals

You clearly didn't. I just out pointed average PPG and the difference is beyond negligible between the three players. I'm not sure what's so difficult for you to grasp. If you think advanced statistics mean nothing, your understanding of the game is literally as clueless as your commentary in this thread.

Brandon Tanev is statistically a better bottom 6 forward than Thorburn. His possession metrics are better, he's a better 200 ft. player, and he's not a liability like Thorburn was (check out his career -39 +/-). He also costs $200K less and has better statistics all around this season. If sports are all about what you've done lately, then Tanev is without question the better forward this season, as evidenced by his better numbers, PPG average, and possession metrics. There's no debate whatsoever.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/t/tanevbr01.html

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/t/thorbch01.html

And hockey's about winning, actually. Scoring goals is just as important as preventing them.

Edited February 14, 2018 by blue_gold_84
links added

[bb1]

No DAMN way you leave Laine with Copp....how about Roslo with Laine as the second line center drop Little to third line? Wasting out best scorer on the third line....??

[Atomic]

3 minutes ago, bb1 said:

No DAMN way you leave Laine with Copp....how about Roslo with Laine as the second line center drop Little to third line? Wasting out best scorer on the third line....??

Laine has to learn there is more to the game than just shooting the puck

[Mark F]

36 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Laine has to learn there is more to the game than just shooting the puck

Games I've watched, Laine looks like his energy level is not up there with many of the other players.

Maybe his conditioning /eating program is not quite as good as it could be.

[blue_gold_84]

39 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Laine has to learn there is more to the game than just shooting the puck

He floats way, way too much. Really epitomized in last night's game.

[sweep the leg]

52 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Laine has to learn there is more to the game than just shooting the puck

His effort level was really exposed when they had him with Schief and Wheeler on Friday. He's great on the pp, but he needs to improve in every other aspect.

He's 19 and scores a **** tonne of goals, so I can't complain about him too much though...

[Brandon]

Sophomore slump ,   almost all athletes experience this.   I would not be concerned at all. 

[sweep the leg]

9 hours ago, Goalie said:

I did. Points. Thats all that matters. Fancy stats mean **** all. 

 

What a crazy thing to say.

[Atomic]

8 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Sophomore slump ,   almost all athletes experience this.   I would not be concerned at all. 

No concerns whatsoever but can't expect him to stay on the top line while he works through it.

[bb1]

1 hour ago, Atomic said:

Laine has to learn there is more to the game than just shooting the puck

Actually he was great with Wheeler at center...maybe he needs a center who can give and go a little bit better than Little?  They just don't mesh for whatever reason. Btw Laine is also a great passer.. but who cares when he shoots better than  99% of the players in the NHL?

[Atomic]

42 minutes ago, bb1 said:

Actually he was great with Wheeler at center...maybe he needs a center who can give and go a little bit better than Little?  They just don't mesh for whatever reason. Btw Laine is also a great passer.. but who cares when he shoots better than  99% of the players in the NHL?

You can't run a team by saying "OK everyone give full effort and play according to the system, except you Laine, you're really good so don't worry about it."  It doesn't matter how good a shooter or passer he is... he has to play within the system and give 100%.  You can't have a princess on the team.