mbrg Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 10 hours ago, Floyd said: I really think Walters thought Shepley and Hunter would fall... Possibly, but I think the opposite is more likely - that Walters was pretty certain the guys he really wanted wouldn't be available by pick #7. That he had a small group of guys in his "elite" tier, Chapman and a couple of the Olinemen perhaps, and a much bigger group of guys in his "pretty good" tier. And since he had very little chance of landing an elite player in this draft, why not move down 5 spots, get a pretty good player much like we would have gotten anyways, and get a pick in next year's draft that very realistically could be a top 3 pick? That way we actually can turn our pick this year into landing an elite player. It's just a theory, one that makes sense to me. And after all, otherwise next year we wouldn't get to pick until 9th. That said, this Bomber draft class fell well outside of what we would consider to be the norm. bb1 and SPuDS 1 1
Jpan85 Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 Like what they did if your ratio is being built heavily around WR and OL then that’s how you draft. Simonise highest ceiling in the draft think he really benefits from being in that WR room with Bowman Dressler and Adams. They won’t let him get bad habits. Mark F and SPuDS 2
Tracker Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Jpan85 said: Like what they did if your ratio is being built heavily around WR and OL then that’s how you draft. Simonise highest ceiling in the draft think he really benefits from being in that WR room with Bowman Dressler and Adams. They won’t let him get bad habits. I wouldn't bet the farm on that, but we can hope.
Stickem Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 Young players like Simonise are very impressionable ...When you make the 'right' impression on a player and it sticks, we could really have something...I hope it works out for Simonise and us and we end up with a star receiver that will have the other gm's in this league wondering...'what the hell were we thinking' SPuDS and Fred C Dobbs 2
bigg jay Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 Bowman is a good example for Simonise to follow. Bowman had to learn that just using his physical gifts aren't enough & that he still had to put in work to be successful. Hopefully he's able to pass that on to Simonise. SPuDS, Fred C Dobbs, Floyd and 2 others 1 4
Mike Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 That is a great point ... Bowman was a very similar type of personality. It's definitely worth remembering that Simonise was viewed as a top 3 prospect for a very large part of the year. SPuDS 1
Mark F Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) I wish someone would ask him how to pronounce his name. Looks like "See-mo- niece" to me. not like "Simoniz USA, Inc. is an American manufacturer of automobile and janitorial cleaning products." or something. Edited May 4, 2018 by Mark F
Brandon Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 Does anyone have any knowledge on the guys we drafted? If so any kind of break down and/or chances of these guys ever making the club? Comparisons to other players?
johnzo Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 Adams is another guy who might have some lessons to teach Simonise. When he came here he was just another physically gifted guy with hella upside ... a few years later, he's all side. blue_gold_84 and SPuDS 2
rebusrankin Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 Would you rather have a guy with the upside of Wolitarsky or Simonise playing that 5th spot or a Ryan Lankford or Ladamian Washington? SPuDS, Albertabomberguy and Goalie 3
SPuDS Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: Would you rather have a guy with the upside of Wolitarsky or Simonise playing that 5th spot or a Ryan Lankford or Ladamian Washington? I'll take a ratio breaking tall canuck over a meh tall american any day of the week. Mark F, Mr Dee and Tracker 2 1
bb1 Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 Add in Lapolice and what he can teach Simonise and you never know...this kid has the ability to be a star....its a roll of the dice and i give Walters credit for taking that risk.... Piggy 1, JCon and bearpants 3
JuranBoldenRules Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, rebusrankin said: Would you rather have a guy with the upside of Wolitarsky or Simonise playing that 5th spot or a Ryan Lankford or Ladamian Washington? Underrated part of this transition is that we could have non-imports doing most of the kick returning too, allowing DI spots to be used elsewhere. JCon and rebusrankin 2
sweep the leg Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 Ticats paid $70k in bonuses to Bomben before trading him. Floyd, rebusrankin and Brandon 3
mbrg Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, sweep the leg said: Ticats paid $70k in bonuses to Bomben before trading him. Your move, Chris Jones... JCon 1
Colin Unger Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 If in fact there were better offensive lineman available at the number 7 spot than Walters predicted the nice thing about this is they didn’t give away their pick. It should result in a top 3 pick next year from BC. Secondly without this trade there’s a good chance Simonise would not have been on he board when our 2nd round pick came around. The trade to me really hinges on how good spooner and the developmental guy from last year are. If they are legit future starters than it was a good trade because we are going to have trouble protecting all these guys. Especially if Gray joins the team later this year. Mark F 1
TheSource Posted May 5, 2018 Report Posted May 5, 2018 Definitely hate what Walters did this draft, or to put it better, what he didn't do. Every other team tries to significantly improve every off season. Can't see how this years draft efforts are going to even remotely help to do that. I think that Simonize is going to be Addison Richards 2.0 and that is the highlight. It just gets ugly after that. Still think Bombers Cdn depth is going to be tested this year - and found to be way too thin. The team may do well, but I think there is also a good chance they will significantly regress, and when you couple that with every other team solidly improving this off season, it may not be BCs draft pick that give them the top pick next year.
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Posted May 5, 2018 18 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Wasn’t about Simonise. What was it about?
Colin Unger Posted May 5, 2018 Report Posted May 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, TheSource said: Definitely hate what Walters did this draft, or to put it better, what he didn't do. Every other team tries to significantly improve every off season. Can't see how this years draft efforts are going to even remotely help to do that. I think that Simonize is going to be Addison Richards 2.0 and that is the highlight. It just gets ugly after that. Still think Bombers Cdn depth is going to be tested this year - and found to be way too thin. The team may do well, but I think there is also a good chance they will significantly regress, and when you couple that with every other team solidly improving this off season, it may not be BCs draft pick that give them the top pick next year. Calgary isn’t getting better. They are trying to fill massive holes on their offensive line to try and make up for busts in previous years. After the third round you rarely get anything of long term substance. So the bombers basically solidified their agenda of starting two Canadian receivers by drafting 2 of the top 3 or 4 receivers in the draft including Simonise who has the potential to be one of the top Canadian receivers in the league if he and the bombers are able to get him back to where he was when he played for the Dinos. There was nothing that would have been available at pick 7 that was going to make this team better this season. It would have been another backup offensive lineman who’s gonna take a couple years to develop. Brandon Blue&Gold 1
Mike Posted May 5, 2018 Report Posted May 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, TheSource said: Definitely hate what Walters did this draft, or to put it better, what he didn't do. Every other team tries to significantly improve every off season. Can't see how this years draft efforts are going to even remotely help to do that. I think that Simonize is going to be Addison Richards 2.0 and that is the highlight. It just gets ugly after that. Still think Bombers Cdn depth is going to be tested this year - and found to be way too thin. The team may do well, but I think there is also a good chance they will significantly regress, and when you couple that with every other team solidly improving this off season, it may not be BCs draft pick that give them the top pick next year. Thank you for your opinion. Colin Unger 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Mike said: Thank you for your opinion. Why do you go after people here so much? Everyone is entitled to an opinion even if you disagree. If you don't like what someone said, you just get nasty. You definitely play favourites here it's so obvious. To you, it's all about talking down to, belittling & snide remarks to members you don't like. You don't even attempt to hide your disdain for certain people here anymore. Why don't you just perma ban everyone on your **** List & be done with it? Edited May 5, 2018 by SpeedFlex27 Bigblue204 1
Colin Unger Posted May 5, 2018 Report Posted May 5, 2018 Just now, SpeedFlex27 said: Why do you go after people here so much? Everyone is entitled to an opinion even if you disagree. If you don't like what someone said, you don't have to be so nasty. To you, it's all about belittling & snide remarks. Why don't you just perma ban everyone on your **** List & be done with it? Out of the two posts Mike’s was less nasty. WBBFanWest, SPuDS, Jaxon and 1 other 3 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Posted May 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Colin Unger said: Out of the two posts Mike’s was less nasty. Some things never change here. Colin Unger 1
pigseye Posted May 5, 2018 Report Posted May 5, 2018 Great job in the draft, addressed our current needs and landed a couple of real studs. Just need the US recruits to come through and we have the makings of another great season of Bomber football. Except for Rich Hall, should have tied the can to him.
JuranBoldenRules Posted May 5, 2018 Report Posted May 5, 2018 47 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: What was it about? Acquiring a first rounder in 2019.
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