Alouettes @ Lions

[JuranBoldenRules]

15 minutes ago, Rod Black said:

So now he’s sueing....like there was any doubt.

 

how are the players to know if this nut is armed or not? 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/pantless-man-who-disrupted-b-c-lions-game-lawyers-up-over-marcell-young-hit-1.4714218

 

 

 

 

Young matched the guys stupidity by going out of his way and taking a run at him.  He deserves to get sued, what he did was unnecessary.  Totally different ball game if the guy runs up to players.  You can’t just assault people for fun because they are idiots.

[Rod Black]

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Young matched the guys stupidity by going out of his way and taking a run at him.  He deserves to get sued, what he did was unnecessary.  Totally different ball game if the guy runs up to players.  You can’t just assault people for fun because they are idiots.

Whu? Since when? 

What Young did was use reasonable force to neutralize disruption after the entire stadium and players were being taunted. The idiot was found guilty of trespassing as well. Young did not go into the stands, or chase the guy round his field, for fun, to nail the guy. Young did not repeatedly, and unprovocted, punch, kick or stomp the guy. He pushed him down as the idiot came within a very short distance. 

Edited June 21, 2018 by Rod Black

[SpeedFlex27]

28 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Young matched the guys stupidity by going out of his way and taking a run at him.  He deserves to get sued, what he did was unnecessary.  Totally different ball game if the guy runs up to players.  You can’t just assault people for fun because they are idiots.

Don't agree the player deserves to be sued.  The guy was drunk in public & taken off his pants running aimlessly around. Maybe if BC Place security had done their job. Oh wait, in  Snowflake, BC they did do their job. They let him on the field to run around.  The guy deserved getting smoked.  This is all about the lawyers seeing money to be made. 

[Jpan85]

Best play Marcel Young has made in three years

[Rod Black]

The running man is an even bigger fool if he thinks he’ll go to court and not reveal his name, to be placed on public record. Besides, the cops haven’t charged Young, which they have the authority to do. 

Edited June 21, 2018 by Rod Black

[Mr Dee]

Another episode of Young and the Reckless..

I don’t believe the hit was out of place.

Edited June 21, 2018 by Mr Dee

[17to85]

Play stupid games win stupid prizes. 

[kelownabomberfan]

11 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

  You can’t just assault people for fun because they are idiots.

Sigh.  This is a good point.

[Rod Black]

First thing, Judgy Wudgy says to running man, “show me your hands...”.

Case dismissed. 

Edited June 21, 2018 by Rod Black

[bustamente]

Stupid people do stupid things ever day of the week and get rewarded, this will be settled out of court.

[Pete Catan's Ghost]

Assaulted while in the commission of the crime of trespassing & public intox.

Offsetting penalties.

[Blueandgold]

17 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Young matched the guys stupidity by going out of his way and taking a run at him.  He deserves to get sued, what he did was unnecessary.  Totally different ball game if the guy runs up to players.  You can’t just assault people for fun because they are idiots.

This case will be quickly dismissed.

That moron got exactly what he deserved and the law won't punish Young.

[DanoT]

27 minutes ago, Blueandgold said:

This case will be quickly dismissed.

That moron got exactly what he deserved and the law won't punish Young.

It is a civil matter, not criminal law, but likely will be settled out of court. Guy's lawyer will meet with B.C. Place's insurance claim adjuster who at best might offer to rescind the B.C. Place imposed one year ban and then probably with conditions such as agreeing not to consume alcohol while at games  . Any cash payout would for starters need a doctor's report detaining injuries found upon examination.

There also could be a cash payout to make the guy's lawyer go away if BC Place or the Lions feel the case is bringing bad publicity to the team. Or it could be the opposite if it is felt that paying a drunk trespasser goes against public opinion.

OTOH we live in a country whose government thought it was necessary to pay $10M to a terrorist murderer because when he was caught and tortured by the Americans, Canada did not try to intervene on behalf of the terrorist.

Edited June 21, 2018 by DanoT

[Rod Black]

1 hour ago, bustamente said:

Stupid people do stupid things ever day of the week and get rewarded, this will be settled out of court.

Suppose we have all the facts in front of us, and forget speculative preincident unknowns. Running man would do more than well to reach a settlement. However, he gets zero satisfaction of having taken it to the man and pound his chest publicly. Non disclosure prevents his discussing the matter, with anyone. The CFL, BCLFC, BC Place Enterprises, and M. Young, can be free and clear of any medical issues he may experience in the future. 

Unlike the governments poster child terrorist, this clown doesn’t have the prime minister on his side. But I know what you mean Dano. 

Gerald Stanley decision proves that law can be just. 

Edited June 21, 2018 by Rod Black

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 hour ago, Blueandgold said:

This case will be quickly dismissed.

That moron got exactly what he deserved and the law won't punish Young.

Civil case is easy lawsuit for damages.  It’s on video at least two angles.  You can’t just run someone down and harm them, especially when you’re a professional tackler in full equipment.  It’s not self-defence in the least, the video is quite clear.  Yes the idiot deserves punishment, but Marcell Young isn’t law enforcement or judiciary and he was not being harmed.  He’ll have a hell of a time justifying his actions in front of a judge. 

The world wouldn’t function too well if we all made snap determinations and enforced the law immediately.

[Rod Black]

JBR, I’m enjoying the respectful debate. 

However, you have not addressed the gravity of unclean hands that is on running man. 

Running man’s only expectation at that game was to be provided reasonable safety as a spectator at an event. He failed to observe the expectation that he would continue as a spectator as displayed on his ducat. 

Marcel Young does not have to be law enforcement to diffuse a situation. He put a  a stop to an unruly situation created by reckless person and some people see that as totally justified, (confirmed by many of the posters in this small sample). He did not ruminate that day “I’m going to hurt a fan today”. In fact, it could be argued that Young took reasonable action in the circumstance. Self defence doesn’t need to be a defence for Young. He could be with no stretch whatsoever be considered a hero! 

Running man was being chased by CFL on field officials. Are you suggesting they had no right to diffuse the situation? Running man invoked mayhem. BC place et al operate the facility and are responsible for controlling the venue. The mayhem had to stop. The spectators had a right to expect a football game and not be subject riotous activities. 

In the streets, a Samaritan tackling a purse thief, is honoured, even if the culprit has injuries with his head hitting the ground. Young, as an employee of the B.C. Lions, had a significant and very legitimate interest in stopping the nonsense created by Running man. Young is more than a Good Samaritan. Perhaps it is also his obligation!

In terms of damages, what are they? He claims a head injury. Still unproven. A headache is an injury but worth no more than what he could reasonably expected from his actions in a disregard for an event that he had no part. His contract with B.C. Place et al is as a spectator only. He gains no further rights by breach of his contract. The defending parties broke no law. He did broke the law, trespassing, when he failed to respect his role in the event. His actions are a text book example of unclean hands.

These facts are the essence of tort law in Canada. Tort law is not a sword he can use, when his entitlement as a spectator provides him nothing more than a shield against unreasonable injury while appropriately in his place, at BC Place. 

As his advocate, your free to close if you desire. 

Edited June 22, 2018 by Rod Black

[SpeedFlex27]

And it turned out nice again.