Around The NHL 2018/2019

[bustamente]

About as good as the Sens could get for a guy who was not resigning not that the Senators were trying, glad he didn't go to a central team.

[Goalie]

Not a bad haul for a soon to be UFA. 

[iHeart]

a friend of mine on facebook thinks that this could be the beginning of the end of the Senators

[JCon]

15 hours ago, iHeart said:

a friend of mine on facebook thinks that this could be the beginning of the end of the Senators

Ironically, the Sens actually have a decent group of young players. They'll be fine on the ice. 

The gong show off the ice is another story. 

[iHeart]

4 minutes ago, JCon said:

Ironically, the Sens actually have a decent group of young players. They'll be fine on the ice. 

The gong show off the ice is another story. 

good god how come there are gong shows in Calgary and in Ottawa suddenly.

[JCon]

Just now, iHeart said:

good god how come there are gong shows in Calgary and in Ottawa suddenly.

Ottawa has a terrible owner who meddles in the team. That's a problem and it creates a whole load of other problems. There is also a question about Melnyk's liquidity. On paper, he's worth a lot but cash flow is often an issue.

The arena is built too far away from downtown and is not easily accessible for a lot of fans. It's a huge arena, so there are always (often?) unsold tickets. 

 

Calgary is looking for a new arena and the owners want public money to pay for a large portion of the building. They'll sort that out but it has become ugly. The owners, if I've read it right, are losing the PR battle with the public. 

[iHeart]

16 minutes ago, JCon said:

Ottawa has a terrible owner who meddles in the team. That's a problem and it creates a whole load of other problems. There is also a question about Melnyk's liquidity. On paper, he's worth a lot but cash flow is often an issue.

The arena is built too far away from downtown and is not easily accessible for a lot of fans. It's a huge arena, so there are always (often?) unsold tickets. 

 

Calgary is looking for a new arena and the owners want public money to pay for a large portion of the building. They'll sort that out but it has become ugly. The owners, if I've read it right, are losing the PR battle with the public. 

sounds like Calgary is going through the same thing the Jets did years ago. 

I hope either of them will end up relocating to QC I mean they've had an arena ready for years

[JCon]

19 minutes ago, iHeart said:

sounds like Calgary is going through the same thing the Jets did years ago. 

I hope either of them will end up relocating to QC I mean they've had an arena ready for years

I think the situation in Calgary is very different from Winnipeg. Yes, we needed a new arena but the economics of the league and the soft dollar were really challenging the Jets, and all Canadian teams, at the time. Finding an owner who was willing to take on the financial risk and, likely, loss was impossible. 

Now that economics have been resolved, via the profit-sharing salary cap, this is about owners taking on minimal risk while getting a brand new arena (economic driver). It's about getting more for less. 

That being said, I don't think either team is at risk of being relocated.

I could see an ownership change in Ottawa but then Melnyk would not get the attention he does now. The only way he sells is if he cannot keep the cash flow positive and the league pressures him. 

I can't speak to the economics of the Calgary situation but it would appear as though the owners have bad timing. When the economy in Alberta was booming, Calgary was expanding like crazy, building tons infrastructure (public and private). I'm not sure if it would have been more palatable for the City to pay a big portion of the a new arena or if the population would have always been as resistant as they seem now. Maybe some of the Calgarians on this board could provide insight. 

Edited September 14, 2018 by JCon

[The Unknown Poster]

Winnipeg simply didnt have an owner willing to absorb the losses of an NHL team, especially while a new arena was being built.  While there was a public aspect to building BellMTS Place, it was driven by the private sector who put a lot of money into it themselves and the public investment was recouped earlier than expected.  Plus, the owner of the team (the Moose at the time) ran their team themselves and obviously, paid a large sum to bring the NHL back.

I think Calgary will have to realize, a new arena will need to be private-sector driven with a significant investment.  I dont sweat the taxes helping TNS because its a fraction of the over-all investment and we gain over time by having it.  But if government was asked to foot a majority of the bill, it would be an issue.

Flames arent going to move.  Ottawa?  I doubt it but I dont think its without possibility.  If Melnyk wanted to sell and couldnt find a buyer in Ottawa?

In Morrissey news, Peter Tessier, a blogger for Hockeybuzz and someone who occasionally has some solid analysis, claims he has a source that says Jets have both a bridge and long term offer on the table for Josh to consider.  Jets prefer long term, Josh prefers bridge.

[The Unknown Poster]

 

[iHeart]

The flames now have one less owner 

 

[The Unknown Poster]

I’m guessing the morrissey deal paved the way for this to get done quickly 

 

[bustamente]

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I’m guessing the morrissey deal paved the way for this to get done quickly 

 

Wonder if they are freaking out in Edmonton like some here were after Morrissey singed his bridge contract.

[Floyd]

Nurse is nowhere near as good as Morrissey...  Oilers locked up Klefbom right after rookie contract...

[iHeart]

1-0 jets so far so good

2-1 thank you morrow you just saved our butts

Edited September 18, 2018 by iHeart

[JCon]

12 hours ago, iHeart said:

1-0 jets so far so good

2-1 thank you morrow you just saved our butts

The non-goal. And, don't fret the score. The teamed played well, the youngsters looked good and we got great goal-tending from our back-up. Win-win-win. 

[The Unknown Poster]

 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

[The Unknown Poster]

Send em to Quebec!

 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

13 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Send em to Quebec!

 

Saw a lot of empty seats in the EDM@CAL game.

Real stat for Preds@Panthers game was paid attendance was 5,806.

Also it was a Monday afternoon game.

 

 

Edited September 19, 2018 by FrostyWinnipeg

[Floyd]

54 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Saw a lot of empty seats in the EDM@CAL game.

Real stat for Preds@Panthers game was paid attendance was 5,806.

Also it was a Monday afternoon game.

The team probably bought 5000 seats ha

[The Unknown Poster]

1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Saw a lot of empty seats in the EDM@CAL game.

Real stat for Preds@Panthers game was paid attendance was 5,806.

Also it was a Monday afternoon game.

 

 

They count tickets out as the attendance.  So if they distribute 100,000 tickets that no one uses, they can claim an attendance of 100,000 people.

I cant remember the details on the Panthers but there was a reason why they hadnt been relocated...a lease or something.  They'd be ripe for the pickings though...

[HardCoreBlue]

One of my wishes for this season is by game 20 we see a headline on TSN "What's wrong with the Leafs?"

This constant  Tavares  Marner Matthews talk is nauseating. 

[The Unknown Poster]

I just did some Googling and it seems the deal with the Panthers is, they have a great lease with the city owned arena whereby they get revenue from other non-hockey events they host as long as they keep the Panthers there.  The lease runs out in 2023, so probably a good couple of years before we hear about relocation there.

[The Unknown Poster]