Goalie Posted July 24, 2018 Report Posted July 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, trueBlue83 said: you mean like throwing to him once, and then avoiding the rest of the game because he dropped one? or when you finally do go to him, throw it well behind and low so he has to go to the turf to actually catch it.... if Nichols could hit someone in stride instead of standing still or coming back to the ball, maybe the passing game would be more effective! Or maybe not throwing to him cuz hes not open and gives up on his routes early? SPuDS 1
trueBlue83 Posted July 24, 2018 Report Posted July 24, 2018 49 minutes ago, Goalie said: Or maybe not throwing to him cuz hes not open and gives up on his routes early? I can't say with honesty that I've been watching every play that closely, but if you have, hey, good on ya bud.... really though, if that is the case, it's because he knows he's not getting the ball thus giving a half-assed effort.... at that point, time to shake hands and part ways. I think this was best case for both sides at this point. wpgallday1960 1
TheSource Posted July 25, 2018 Report Posted July 25, 2018 At this stage we still cannot be sure 100% that the lack of productivity from Bowman was due to Bowman. In the offence that Lapo has been running they really don't target Bowman very much or send him down field more than 10 yards very often, and the same is true of Wolitarsky. That offence is more about sending out 3 or 4 running backs and/or short yardage receivers on every play. Harris and Demski get the ball 80% of the time and the only one going down field more than 10 yards is Adams, who they only target every once in a while as the token long ball attempt. This has its pros and cons in my opinion, but apparently, the majority of teams in the league still have trouble stopping it, and as long as its effective, it is all good. Regardless of the reason for lack of productivity, it is not a bad move to drop Bowman to save cap space, although I will point out that this reflects poorly on the off season efforts, and is another knock on Walters to go along with the Faith Ekakitie and Addison Richards debacles. I will still maintain my comments from before the start of this season that the verdict is still out on what Walters has been doing over the last 2 years. Are we on track to move forward, or regress? I think that will be decided over the next 8 weeks. It will be interesting to see if Kenbrell Thompkins has any better production than Bowman when he is inserted. If not, I'm more inclined to think that the lack of productivity at that position is by design in the Lapo offence, and not a shortcoming on any given player. If so, effectively two of the receivers are being used as decoys and blockers, not targets, which is pretty weird to see at the pro level.
Firekid Posted July 25, 2018 Report Posted July 25, 2018 You forgot to mention the lack of production from Bowman when he is targeted due to him dropping the ball..... Wolitarsky may not get many targets but at least when he does he catches the ball. And that my friend is the bottom line on why Bowman was moved for a bag of used footballs. the watcher, SPuDS, Tracker and 2 others 4 1
17to85 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Posted July 25, 2018 Bowman was done here the second he gave up on a pass in the endzone against BC. When he came out and dropped the first pass he saw against Toronto with no one around him and the ball right in his hands that just cemented it. Guy was always massively overrated and now appears he really has lost a step so why keep wasting time with him when we got guys who showed potential waiting for a chance to get in? SPuDS and Firekid 1 1
Guest J5V Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 On 2018-07-23 at 2:37 PM, Dr Zaius said: Haven't been a fan of Bowman, but this isn't a win for us. A conditional 8th? Lol HAS to be cap-related Sheesh! Between Bowman and Durant how much money have we wasted this year? Both gone and so is the money. Oh well, on a positive note, we're playing the Argos again.
Guest J5V Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 On 2018-07-25 at 10:47 AM, TheSource said: At this stage we still cannot be sure 100% that the lack of productivity from Bowman was due to Bowman. In the offence that Lapo has been running they really don't target Bowman very much or send him down field more than 10 yards very often, and the same is true of Wolitarsky. That offence is more about sending out 3 or 4 running backs and/or short yardage receivers on every play. Harris and Demski get the ball 80% of the time and the only one going down field more than 10 yards is Adams, who they only target every once in a while as the token long ball attempt. This has its pros and cons in my opinion, but apparently, the majority of teams in the league still have trouble stopping it, and as long as its effective, it is all good. Regardless of the reason for lack of productivity, it is not a bad move to drop Bowman to save cap space, although I will point out that this reflects poorly on the off season efforts, and is another knock on Walters to go along with the Faith Ekakitie and Addison Richards debacles. I will still maintain my comments from before the start of this season that the verdict is still out on what Walters has been doing over the last 2 years. Are we on track to move forward, or regress? I think that will be decided over the next 8 weeks. It will be interesting to see if Kenbrell Thompkins has any better production than Bowman when he is inserted. If not, I'm more inclined to think that the lack of productivity at that position is by design in the Lapo offence, and not a shortcoming on any given player. If so, effectively two of the receivers are being used as decoys and blockers, not targets, which is pretty weird to see at the pro level. If the plan was not to target Bowman then why grab him in the first place and over pay for him? Makes no sense. I'm sure Walters talks these types of moves over with Lapolice before pulling the trigger. Lapo must have wanted him for some reason and you can't hang that on Walters. I don't expect Walters to bat 1000. All great hitters strike out sometimes.
SPuDS Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 He wanted him because hes a big target who used to be reliable and able to get open. This year and last, not so much. so we moved on. not quite sure why people are so up in arms about it. it didnt work out. oh well.. next man up. its not like we were losing games because of him or our offense. Bomber fans gonna bomber fan I suppose Fred C Dobbs, wbbfan, Mark F and 1 other 4
do or die Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 No, no...the plan was to keep him (and pay him) the rest of the year....as not to admit a mistake.
WBBFanWest Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 24 minutes ago, J5V said: Sheesh! Between Bowman and Durant how much money have we wasted this year? Both gone and so is the money. Oh well, on a positive note, we're playing the Argos again. Ya it's really frustrating that Walters can't see into the future like all the other GMs. It makes me mad when he spends money trying to make this team better. I want to go back to the good old days where we didn't try so hard and were happy raiding the scrapheaps of other teams. I mean, come on, look at all the success we had when we did that! Piggy 1, SPuDS, blitzmore and 1 other 1 3
yogi Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, SPuDS said: He wanted him because hes a big target who used to be reliable and able to get open. This year and last, not so much. so we moved on. not quite sure why people are so up in arms about it. it didnt work out. oh well.. next man up. its not like we were losing games because of him or our offense. Bomber fans gonna bomber fan I suppose This forum always needs a whipping boy. I'm curious who's up next, anybody want to make a pool? I'm thinking Simonize SPuDS 1
NorthernSkunk Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, WBBFanWest said: Ya it's really frustrating that Walters can't see into the future like all the other GMs. It makes me mad when he spends money trying to make this team better. I want to go back to the good old days where we didn't try so hard and were happy raiding the scrapheaps of other teams. I mean, come on, look at all the success we had when we did that! Wasn't taking Bowman a kind of a raid of a scrap heap ? ........
Guest J5V Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 On 2018-07-27 at 6:15 PM, WBBFanWest said: Ya it's really frustrating that Walters can't see into the future like all the other GMs. It makes me mad when he spends money trying to make this team better. I want to go back to the good old days where we didn't try so hard and were happy raiding the scrapheaps of other teams. I mean, come on, look at all the success we had when we did that! Neither Durant nor Bowman made this team better. Not sure what Walters saw in either but the scrapheap is exactly where he should have left them.
yogi Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, J5V said: Neither Durant nor Bowman made this team better. Not sure what Walters saw in either but the scrapheap is exactly where he should have left them. Thanks Captain Hindsight! Both players were heralded as good depth additions when they were signed in the off season. Adrenaline_x, M.O.A.B., blue_gold_84 and 2 others 4 1
WBBFanWest Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 1 minute ago, J5V said: Neither Durant nor Bowman made this team better. Not sure what Walters saw in either but the scrapheap is exactly where he should have left them. Revisionist thinking > best thinking. As I recall, there were a lot of people that were happy that signing Durant gave us a veteran backup. I also remember how dismayed people were when he suddenly took off with the money. Funny that. 2 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said: Wasn't taking Bowman a kind of a raid of a scrap heap ? ........ No. I seem to recall a lot of excitement around here when his signing was announced. Yes, it's too bad that they money was wasted, but that's not the fault of Walters. That's just bad luck. BigBlueFanatic, blue_gold_84, SPuDS and 2 others 5
NorthernSkunk Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, WBBFanWest said: No. I seem to recall a lot of excitement around here when his signing was announced. Yes, it's too bad that they money was wasted, but that's not the fault of Walters. That's just bad luck. It must have just been me then that didn't want him in blue An gold........I bet people were hoping a much younger version of bowman was gonna show up...... Adrenaline_x 1
Brandon Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, J5V said: Sheesh! Between Bowman and Durant how much money have we wasted this year? Both gone and so is the money. Oh well, on a positive note, we're playing the Argos again. I'd assume $150 000 which isn't bad IMO. Bowman came cheap and we would of had to pay someone else anyways for his spot on the roster so he wasn't that much of a waste. It's not like other teams haven't burned money on guys who did nothing. Look at the Riders starting QB and how much he contributed.... yogi, Adrenaline_x and Mr Dee 2 1
TheSource Posted July 27, 2018 Report Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, NorthernSkunk said: Wasn't taking Bowman a kind of a raid of a scrap heap ? ........ Yes It was. blue_gold_84 1
the watcher Posted July 28, 2018 Report Posted July 28, 2018 14 hours ago, TheSource said: Yes It was. Every single team does this and always has.Every team signs players,has them not work out and cuts them.This is nothing unique to the Bombers. blue_gold_84 1
do or die Posted July 28, 2018 Report Posted July 28, 2018 No more bunk about how we just couldn't incorporate Bowman into our O, please. New guy at R, almost matched Bowman's season production....in his first half, in the CFL. Nickthesizz, bearpants, Piggy 1 and 6 others 7 2
Nickthesizz Posted July 28, 2018 Report Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, yogi said: This forum always needs a whipping boy. I'm curious who's up next, anybody want to make a pool? I'm thinking Simonize Very profound, wonder why you would pull name name out like his? A guy who every time he's had a chance to make a play has stepped up. Bowman is done and why does it matter to you guys how the money is spent? Didn't realize anybody on this forum was paying the cheques? He got paid his signing bonus and a bit more and it didn't work out, hilarious that you guys expect a gm to be perfect. Kenbrell Thompkins is going to be a big name in the CFL just like I predicted in TC. Edited July 28, 2018 by Gotmilt Mark F and blue_gold_84 2
wbbfan Posted July 28, 2018 Author Report Posted July 28, 2018 2 hours ago, do or die said: No more bunk about how we just couldn't incorporate Bowman into our O, please. New guy at R, almost matched Bowman's season production....in his first half, in the CFL. Thompkins looked great. Seems to have instant chemistry with nichols too. I was hoping to see more petermann mixed in but if thompkins keeps it up he is gonna be tough to take off the field. SPuDS 1
Booch Posted July 28, 2018 Report Posted July 28, 2018 He is gonna draw coverage help away from Adam's. And looks to be a good possession guy with big play abikity SPuDS 1
O2L Posted July 28, 2018 Report Posted July 28, 2018 Sorry if this was mentioned elsewhere, but I’m curious, did Bowman see the field in Montreal’s loss the other day? Also a funny coincidence that in the two games that Adams hasn’t had a ton of catches this season he has thrown completions. bearpants, blue_gold_84, SPuDS and 2 others 4 1
Booch Posted July 28, 2018 Report Posted July 28, 2018 He must have a killer QB rating..2 for 2..about 30..35 yards and a TD
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