wbbfan Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 3 hours ago, 17to85 said: Bombers are already an elite team troll. ehh depends on how you define it. Right now id say calgary is the only elite team. And even they have an asterisk. I would put us, ottawa and edmonton in the second tier as contenders. Id personally have us at the top of that pile. We play like an elite team every other game, then we surge and coast in the follow up. We dont have the consistent dominance to be elite yet. Would duron carter make us soo much better that itd be note worth? no. Im a big believe in the guys talents. No can can deny he is an excellent player. But we are stacked at wr this year. We have more guys then we have ability to use. Kenbrell thompkins in edmonton would be top 5 in every category imo. Duron is a better player then adams and dressler. But his negative in terms of head case and chemistry is far too large. We dont have a need at wr right now. I wouldnt take any of our wrs off the roster right now. I could see BC, and montreal being interested. Maybe hamilton. But I think the most likely one in TO. Mr Dee, Eternal optimist and TrueBlue4ever 3
Jpan85 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 Heard Matt Nichols say this week guys who don’t buy in to what they are doing don’t last long with the team. blue_gold_84, Bigblue204, Eternal optimist and 2 others 5
wbbfan Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jpan85 said: Heard Matt Nichols say this week guys who don’t buy in to what they are doing don’t last long with the team. believe it 100%. Tracker and Eternal optimist 2
Tracker Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 I'm betting on Carter going to either Toronto or Montreal, with Toronto having a clean slate with Carter. In Montreal, there are still players there who probably still have a bad taste in their mouths from the last go-round. I cannot see Wally tolerating Carter and the receivers there are pretty good anyways. Hamilton? Who really knows? Eternal optimist 1
Eternal optimist Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 Personally, I hope he ends up with the Cleveland Browns...or McDonald's... that'd be good too. wbbfan 1
do or die Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 Feel sorry for Carter.....as he obviously had no idea in the world.....why Jones would electronically send him his dismissal. Eternal optimist 1
Tracker Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 2 hours ago, do or die said: Feel sorry for Carter.....as he obviously had no idea in the world.....why Jones would electronically send him his dismissal. Carter is the author of his own misfortune, but this does not excuse Jones in any way. The Riders had to know who they were hiring, so I have little sympathy for management there. After the debacle that Jones has been, there is enough blame to go around for all. Fred C Dobbs and Eternal optimist 1 1
bigg jay Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, Tracker said: I'm betting on Carter going to either Toronto or Montreal, with Toronto having a clean slate with Carter. In Montreal, there are still players there who probably still have a bad taste in their mouths from the last go-round. I cannot see Wally tolerating Carter and the receivers there are pretty good anyways. Hamilton? Who really knows? I wouldn't say it's an entirely clean slate in Toronto. Popp was the GM who cut him in Montreal for his sh**ty behaviour. He's desperate to turn around the Argos season though so he might take the risk. Eternal optimist and wbbfan 2
blueingreenland Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: The circus?? Bigblue204, wbbfan, Eternal optimist and 2 others 5
Eternal optimist Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, blueingreenland said: The circus?? "Man with largest ego"? He could work alongside the bearded lady.
do or die Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 But Duron has already been kicked out of the big top...... rebusrankin and Eternal optimist 2
do or die Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, Tracker said: Carter is the author of his own misfortune, but this does not excuse Jones in any way. The Riders had to know who they were hiring, so I have little sympathy for management there. After the debacle that Jones has been, there is enough blame to go around for all. I actually typed that post, with a straight face. My bad. Eternal optimist 1
wbbfan Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 58 minutes ago, Tracker said: I'm betting on Carter going to either Toronto or Montreal, with Toronto having a clean slate with Carter. In Montreal, there are still players there who probably still have a bad taste in their mouths from the last go-round. I cannot see Wally tolerating Carter and the receivers there are pretty good anyways. Hamilton? Who really knows? montreal is used to being a gong show. toronto is coming off a grey cup win and still a young front office in that city, not to mention serious attendance problems. Wally, is not used to losing. nothing would surprise me at this point. You know he doesnt want to waste his last year on a dud of a team. Lions are most dangerous at old age. They can sense the end is coming and know its time to go down swinging. 46 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said: Personally, I hope he ends up with the Cleveland Browns...or McDonald's... that'd be good too. i actually have a sympathy thing for the browns. Id hate to see him with them. 32 minutes ago, bigg jay said: I wouldn't say it's an entirely clean slate in Toronto. Popp was the GM who cut him in Montreal for his sh**ty behaviour. He's desperate to turn around the Argos season though so he might take the risk. this is a great and interesting point. I think the desire to right that ship will win out, you cant afford to hold a grudge too long in the cfl its too small a world. Every thing comes back around. (see chris williams) Eternal optimist 1
BigBlue Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 Cutting Carter was pure and simple: it was a salary dump... coming up on week 10 they would have had to pay him for the whole year if he played one more game ... you don't want to lose a draft pick next spring for being over the salary cap ... nor do you want to be exposed for having such a high salary low performance team in front the country's most delusional fans Al Bundy and wbbfan 2
bigg jay Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, BigBlue said: Cutting Carter was pure and simple: it was a salary dump... coming up on week 10 they would have had to pay him for the whole year if he played one more game ... you don't want to lose a draft pick next spring for being over the salary cap ... nor do you want to be exposed for having such a high salary low performance team in front the country's most delusional fans That only happens in extreme cases. You get fined up to certain point and then draft picks can be taken away. They also don't count the cap until the end of the year so even if they were over now, they might not be later (which is why you see contracts getting re-done mid season).
kelownabomberfan Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 6 hours ago, TheBandit said: There is no question Carter would make the Bombers an elite team. Said Bob Irving in 1987 when asked about the Bombers putting Chris Carter on their neg list. blue_gold_84, Eternal optimist, rebusrankin and 1 other 4
kelownabomberfan Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Bubba Zanetti said: Chris Jones = Jim Jones Jim Jones was more sane. Rod Black and Bubba Zanetti 2
kelownabomberfan Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Eternal optimist said: I think we should all pitch in to buy Carter a ticket to the Banjo Bowl, then he can watch from the sidelines and see a real, cohesive football team work together to mop the floor with the Riders. Replace "ticket to" with "bag of weed at" in that sentence and you may get him to show up. Eternal optimist 1
kelownabomberfan Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Jpan85 said: Heard Matt Nichols say this week guys who don’t buy in to what they are doing don’t last long with the team. Toronto back in the Pinball coaching days had a saying "Fit in or F off". I remember Pinball saying that was the Argo philosophy. O'Shea would know all about it, having played there at the time. Eternal optimist 1
kelownabomberfan Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, blueingreenland said: The circus?? that or WWE wrestling. Eternal optimist 1
Eternal optimist Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: that or WWE wrestling. I would pay good money to see Carter get suplexed bigg jay 1
bigg jay Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 Looks like Duron had to find out he was cut from teammates... a step up from finding out on Twitter I guess? Eternal optimist and wbbfan 2
Goalie Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 59 minutes ago, BigBlue said: Cutting Carter was pure and simple: it was a salary dump... coming up on week 10 they would have had to pay him for the whole year if he played one more game ... you don't want to lose a draft pick next spring for being over the salary cap ... nor do you want to be exposed for having such a high salary low performance team in front the country's most delusional fans I dunno. I think he was only owed 40 k the rest of the season. The reason is much simpler.. Hes a cancerous piece of ****. Eternal optimist 1
Tracker Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said: Jim Jones was more sane. And Jimmy served more memorable refreshments. Eternal optimist and kelownabomberfan 2
Zontar Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 So according to the management bootlickers on Riderfans Carter was an "experiment" and since they got some good play out of him it's, oh well, no biggie. One has to be careful when using the word lie/liar so I'll go with "bollocks". When Carter was signed he was never, ever sold or advertised as an "experiment". Ever. Shameless ass covering for Jones over there. Eternal optimist 1
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