3 stars plus hh otta be better then this

[wbbfan]

On 2018-08-21 at 8:26 PM, SpeedFlex27 said:

New qb comes to the Bombers. Never played with any of the receivers. What's he do because he has no chemistry with anyone.  Not throw the ball? Chemistry is okay but it's not that big of a deal.  Chemistry develops the longer a qb practices & plays with his receivers.  By now, Nichols knows what Wolitarsky can do. 

If a guy is airlifted it can be interesting to see who they target. Often what you see if a no2 or no3 qb take over is that the best wr who gets regular reps with him on team 2 becomes a go to guy. 

Chemistry is a tough thing in football. Sometimes its easy to look at a play and say, oh no cohesion in that unit on that one. But that can happen with veteran groups. Its a bigger thing for the lines imo. With qbs chemistry will shine brightest when the play breaks down and they scramble. They know who will come back to the ball and when. 

That said, no one ever had trouble building chemistry with milt on the field. Its a bit overrated with qbs and wrs imo. Its the difference between who you toss up 50/50 balls to when desperate, and when the play breaks down. but in those cases, you generally just want to go to the best target anyway. 

[Fatty Liver]

On 2018-08-22 at 6:45 PM, wbbfan said:

If a guy is airlifted it can be interesting to see who they target. Often what you see if a no2 or no3 qb take over is that the best wr who gets regular reps with him on team 2 becomes a go to guy. 

Chemistry is a tough thing in football. Sometimes its easy to look at a play and say, oh no cohesion in that unit on that one. But that can happen with veteran groups. Its a bigger thing for the lines imo. With qbs chemistry will shine brightest when the play breaks down and they scramble. They know who will come back to the ball and when. 

That said, no one ever had trouble building chemistry with milt on the field. Its a bit overrated with qbs and wrs imo. Its the difference between who you toss up 50/50 balls to when desperate, and when the play breaks down. but in those cases, you generally just want to go to the best target anyway. 

This especially applies to Dressler, he's very good at breaking off routes and getting into Nichols field of vision at mid-depth to help him out, Nichols relies on him heavily and is less effective when he's absent.  Hard to pass that savvy onto a new receiver who is mostly concerned with running the route as designed and holding onto the ball if thrown to. Tasker does the same for Masoli.

Edited August 24, 2018 by Throw Long Bannatyne

[Floyd]

5 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

This especially applies to Dressler, he's very good at breaking off routes and getting into Nichols field of vision at mid-depth to help him out, Nichols relies on this and is less effective when he's absent.  Hard to pass that savvy onto a new receiver who is mostly concerned with running the route as designed and holding onto the ball if thrown to. Tasker does the same for Masoli.

Very good defence of Nichols last game... if Lankford is 'not quite' running the routes, it explains a lot of the confusion

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

This especially applies to Dressler, he's very good at breaking off routes and getting into Nichols field of vision at mid-depth to help him out, Nichols relies on this and is less effective when he's absent.  Hard to pass that savvy onto a new receiver who is mostly concerned with running the route as designed and holding onto the ball if thrown to. Tasker does the same for Masoli.

Yep, he is often the guy who breaks off short when pressure comes while adams stretches the defense deep frequently. That said harris is also usually a main pressure release valve, but teams are game planning for him to catch the ball out of the back field more these days. 

[Fatty Liver]

1 hour ago, Floyd said:

Very good defence of Nichols last game... if Lankford is 'not quite' running the routes, it explains a lot of the confusion

In reality you can't expect Lankford or Washington or Petermann or any other inexperienced receiver on the squad to alter and adapt their routes without years of playing experience and a full understanding of the play being called.  This is one essential ability that is learned and has helped tiny Dressler establish an all-star career over the past 10 years.

[Guest J5V]

25 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

In reality you can't expect Lankford or Washington or Petermann or any other inexperienced receiver on the squad to alter and adapt their routes without years of playing experience and a full understanding of the play being called.  This is one essential ability that is learned and has helped tiny Dressler establish an all-star career over the past 10 years.

Hmm ... I dunno. Seems it should be an easy skill to develop. You see your QB scrambling for his life work your way back to him and give him an outlet, quick! A receiver should be able to do it right away shouldn't he? Maybe you're referring to something else and I'm not understanding.

[Mark H.]

1 hour ago, J5V said:

Hmm ... I dunno. Seems it should be an easy skill to develop. You see your QB scrambling for his life work your way back to him and give him an outlet, quick! A receiver should be able to do it right away shouldn't he? Maybe you're referring to something else and I'm not understanding.

You have to do it before that happens - Milt would recognize the blitz and break off his route. 

[Guest J5V]

17 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

You have to do it before that happens - Milt would recognize the blitz and break off his route. 

Ah, okay, I get it now. Apologies. So the QB spies the blitz, audibles, and changes the normal route, say a jerk route, to a hot route? Or is it something a receiver does on his own when the QB has failed to detect the blitz (has been fooled by the defence)?

[Mark H.]

2 hours ago, J5V said:

Ah, okay, I get it now. Apologies. So the QB spies the blitz, audibles, and changes the normal route, say a jerk route, to a hot route? Or is it something a receiver does on his own when the QB has failed to detect the blitz (has been fooled by the defence)?

Usually. If the QB saw blitz or cover zero in the pre-snap read, he could count on Milt to run a short post down the middle. 

[Guest J5V]

4 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Usually. If the QB saw blitz or cover zero in the pre-snap read, he could count on Milt to run a short post down the middle. 

So Milt was reading the defence just as well as the QB did. Impressive.

[Mark H.]

17 minutes ago, J5V said:

So Milt was reading the defence just as well as the QB did. Impressive.

Yes and yes. 

[NorthernSkunk]

Still no cup though.

[Mark H.]

8 hours ago, NorthernSkunk said:

Still no cup though.

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