trueBlue83 Posted September 17, 2018 Report Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Brandon said: I completely agree with this. Masoli IMO seems to have massive horse shoes up his ar$e so many times he's running for his life only to dart a ball 25 yards down field to a receiver who makes a great grab. when you have the arm to do so, you can chuck it up and let the receiver go make a play. Our guy typically under throws, which makes making that play a lot harder.
JCon Posted September 17, 2018 Report Posted September 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, trueBlue83 said: when you have the arm to do so, you can chuck it up and let the receiver go make a play. This does not make any sense.
trueBlue83 Posted September 17, 2018 Report Posted September 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, JCon said: This does not make any sense. you don't think a QB with a good arm can lead and throw a receiver open while scrambling? not sure where the confusion is here?
Tracker Posted September 17, 2018 Report Posted September 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Brandon said: I completely agree with this. Masoli IMO seems to have massive horse shoes up his ar$e so many times he's running for his life only to dart a ball 25 yards down field to a receiver who makes a great grab. After a while, you can't write it off as luck. The best players have a sort of spider sense which allows then to do the right thing at the right time.
Guest J5V Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 On 2018-09-10 at 4:48 PM, Tracker said: If the Bombers' next game was at home, he would probably be loath to start Nichols again, but in Montreal, far away from the suddenly hostile Bomber fans, O'Shea will feel far safer to start Nichols. And of course, a rookie QB couldn't possibly be successful.
NorthernSkunk Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, J5V said: And of course, a rookie QB couldn't possibly be successful. Nichols ain't ever going to win a grey cup, ever. It's time to get Streveler some meaningful reps, and if he totally shows zero promise then get Bennet some reps. The QB position can be a turnstile until somebody proves they can handle the job....
SPuDS Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said: Nichols ain't ever going to win a grey cup, ever. It's time to get Streveler some meaningful reps, and if he totally shows zero promise then get Bennet some reps. The QB position can be a turnstile until somebody proves they can handle the job.... You mean like Nichols did the last 2 seasons?? Oh those dont count now.. gotcha. JCon 1
NorthernSkunk Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, SPuDS said: You mean like Nichols did the last 2 seasons?? Oh those dont count now.. gotcha. Nichols never "handled" the position to the point of getting people excited enough to think about the Bombers having a prolonged playoff run........all he did was "manage" the games, just enough to get some wins during the season. Relying heavily on the Harris little dump offs over and over until every other team in the league shut Nichols and Harris down. And the last four games have not helped Nichols cause even in the slightest way.
rebusrankin Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 Dak Prescott? A guy who had the best offensive line in football and the league's leading rusher and has yet to win a playoff game? If you're going to cite a rookie starter use Ricky Ray. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1
trueBlue83 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, rebusrankin said: Dak Prescott? A guy who had the best offensive line in football and the league's leading rusher and has yet to win a playoff game? If you're going to cite a rookie starter use Ricky Ray. The description you just provided sounds an awful lot like someone we know in Blue & Gold... pigseye 1
pigseye Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 2 hours ago, NorthernSkunk said: Nichols never "handled" the position to the point of getting people excited enough to think about the Bombers having a prolonged playoff run........all he did was "manage" the games, just enough to get some wins during the season. Relying heavily on the Harris little dump offs over and over until every other team in the league shut Nichols and Harris down. And the last four games have not helped Nichols cause even in the slightest way. He exceeded our expectations (mine anyways) with his play when he became starter, didn't he go something like 10 - 1, it was crazy and no way it could be sustained. I think the real Nichols is somewhere between then and now.
Tracker Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 FYI: Walby on the pregame show has opined that Nichols has to shine in the first quarter or his confidence and the confidence of the team in him will wilt. Sounds about right, even if dire.
SpeedFlex27 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 2 hours ago, SPuDS said: You mean like Nichols did the last 2 seasons?? Oh those dont count now.. gotcha. Just as long as Skunk doesn't call the guy Big Chris. Seems like a lot of unexplained & unwanted Man Love there. Wanna-B-Fanboy, NorthernSkunk, SPuDS and 1 other 1 1 2
Guest J5V Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Tracker said: FYI: Walby on the pregame show has opined that Nichols has to shine in the first quarter or his confidence and the confidence of the team in him will wilt. Sounds about right, even if dire. I liked the comment about screw the luvy-dovey stuff, in 1990, the last time the Bombers won the cup, they had a set of boxing gloves hanging in the dressing room and that's how they settled things.
Brandon Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 Nichols did not shine... he didn't stink up the joint but he certainly didn't shine. Doublezero 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 Just now, Brandon said: Nichols did not shine... he didn't stink up the joint but he certainly didn't shine. Lost his running game with Harris & Demski out. Demski is also a part of the passing attack so it really crippled us offensively. If they're out long term I can't see us winning another game thuis season with the teams we play. Noeller and rebusrankin 2
TheSource Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Lost his running game with Harris & Demski out. Demski is also a part of the passing attack so it really crippled us offensively. If they're out long term I can't see us winning another game thuis season with the teams we play. Plus Bombers have ratio problems now. This team has always been very thin in talented personnel.
blueandgoldguy Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 Walby named Nichols the player of the game. Mr. Perfect 1
Brandon Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 38 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Lost his running game with Harris & Demski out. Demski is also a part of the passing attack so it really crippled us offensively. If they're out long term I can't see us winning another game thuis season with the teams we play. No excuses in the 3rd quarter. He had time to throw and had 4 guys who could catch on the field. Demski isn't a big loss IMO. I saw a guy who couldn't throw to anyone after his first read and over thinking.... Doublezero 1
sportmentary2012 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Brandon said: No excuses in the 3rd quarter. He had time to throw and had 4 guys who could catch on the field. Demski isn't a big loss IMO. I saw a guy who couldn't throw to anyone after his first read and over thinking.... Honestly the hate on guys have for Nichols is getting old. He is not a flashy qb but with a good d and when he is running a steady ball control offence that doesn’t turn the ball over it makes for a winning combo. the only qb’s that are better are Riley and Mitchell with Masoli possibly ahead of Nichols but he has yet to win anything. He proved his worth in the 4th with the drive that led to a big field goal and by not turning the ball over. ill conceed Montreal is not a good team but they have some solid players on D. SPuDS, Mr Dee and blueandgoldguy 2 1
AKAChip Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, sportmentary2012 said: Honestly the hate on guys have for Nichols is getting old. He is not a flashy qb but with a good d and when he is running a steady ball control offence that doesn’t turn the ball over it makes for a winning combo. the only qb’s that are better are Riley and Mitchell with Masoli possibly ahead of Nichols but he has yet to win anything. He proved his worth in the 4th with the drive that led to a big field goal and by not turning the ball over. ill conceed Montreal is not a good team but they have some solid players on D. So in other words, when everything else on the team is going well and Nichols doesn’t overtly screw everything up, he’s fine. Pardon me while I celebrate. blueandgoldguy, deepsixemtoboyd, Brandon and 1 other 2 2
AKAChip Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 And since I guess it has to be said again, the general state of QBing in the CFL is terrible so while I would disagree that Nichols is the third best QB in the league, it’s not like his competition is fierce.
SpeedFlex27 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 Quarterbacking is **** because of what we pay our rookies. Why would any qb or player want to come here from the US when they make $55,000 Canadian or whatever then have to lose money in taxes & exchange once they return to the States? The CFL is run by offensive linemen who are the most entitled & coddled group of players in the league today. For the most part, all CFL teams do is draft OL in the first round. So they get the big contracts & start before any other Canadian players get the chance at any other positions. Do you think they care about any other rookie players? The rookie salary has to be significantly raised to get good players to come here & perhaps stay. It's really bad now. Almost embarrassing. blitzmore 1
Dragon37 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 On 2018-09-17 at 4:09 PM, JCon said: This does not make any sense. mike Reilly can explain it to you. He is the expert. What he means if you have a good arm you will usually put it in a place only your receiver will get it even if it has to be a circus catch.
blueandgoldguy Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Quarterbacking is **** because of what we pay our rookies. Why would any qb or player want to come here from the US when they make $55,000 Canadian or whatever then have to lose money in taxes & exchange once they return to the States? The CFL is run by offensive linemen who are the most entitled & coddled group of players in the league today. For the most part, all CFL teams do is draft OL in the first round. So they get the big contracts & start before any other Canadian players get the chance at any other positions. Do you think they care about any other rookie players? The rookie salary has to be significantly raised to get good players to come here & perhaps stay. It's really bad now. Almost embarrassing. Most CFL players were screwed during the last CBA negotiations. Minimal bump in the league minimum and practice roster players and the ceilings for team salaries hardly increased .....even with the new TV contract that increased threefold. THe Bombers had 32 million in revenues last year, yet the players received around $5 million of that. That's around 17% of revenues. The players definitely deserve a larger cut during the next round of negotiations. Sadly, that may not happen.
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