NorthernSkunk Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, do or die said: Well, I did a imitation of a gin soaked Relic, right up in the stands......hope no one was offended. Who doesn't love relic..
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, blue_gold_84 said: Nah, what's funny is the amount of assbleed you have over the celebration. Lol assbleed.... that's one for the dictionary.... Rod Black, SPuDS and blue_gold_84 3
TBURGESS Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Bigblue204 said: I'm going to disagree with this line. What's the bombers winning percentage without Nichols again? That suggests he is a difference maker in the only category that matters. The old give the QB credit for team wins argument. You think that we'd have lost the Montreal, Edmonton or Regina games with Streveler at QB? 4 hours ago, Mr Dee said: And all those QBs are playing on teams that have no better records than Nichols’ team. So, what’s the point again? That they have better completion %'s and 300 yard games. Wins are a team stat.
JCon Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: The old give the QB credit for team wins argument. You think that we'd have lost the Montreal, Edmonton or Regina games with Streveler at QB? That they have better completion %'s and 300 yard games. Wins are a team stat. And yet, you're among the first here whining when Nichols was "losing" us games. As usual, you say whatever to fit whatever narrative you want. You said this a month ago but are saying now that wins are team stats. On 2018-09-11 at 8:52 PM, TBURGESS said: If Nichols can't pull out a win against Montreal, then he's no good to us anyway. Edited October 16, 2018 by JCon blue_gold_84, SPuDS, BigBlueFanatic and 2 others 2 3
WBBFanWest Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, JCon said: And yet, you're among the first here whining when Nichols was "losing" us games. As usual, you say whatever to fit whatever narrative you want. Contrarians gotta contrary... Al Bundy, Wanna-B-Fanboy, SPuDS and 1 other 1 2 1
Bigblue204 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: The old give the QB credit for team wins argument. You think that we'd have lost the Montreal, Edmonton or Regina games with Streveler at QB? That they have better completion %'s and 300 yard games. Wins are the only stat that matters. FTFY Ah the old, pick and choose which stats I'll take into consideration argument. Stats show that the bombers lose more then they win when Nichols is out of the game. It's been that way since he got here. We can't go back in time to see what would have happened. I'm not sitting here guessing. I'm using stats and facts to back up my point. Facts show more wins when Nichols is in the line up, proving he is in fact a difference maker. Rod Black, SPuDS and Mr Dee 3
Rod Black Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 45 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: FTFY Ah the old, pick and choose which stats I'll take into consideration argument. Stats show that the bombers lose more then they win when Nichols is out of the game. It's been that way since he got here. We can't go back in time to see what would have happened. I'm not sitting here guessing. I'm using stats and facts to back up my point. Facts show more wins when Nichols is in the line up, proving he is in fact a difference maker. In ‘88 a .500 record Bomber team went to the Grey Cup and won 22-21 over future Hall of farmer and legendary quarterback for the lions, Matt Dunigan. Winnipeg was missing Chris Walby due to injury. Sean Salisbury, that hadn’t completed 50% of his passes that year. He didn’t even have 2000 yards passing. I remember his post game victory comments. “ I don’t care what my stats were, we just wanted to win...”. His stats were awful. Two intangibles to win, Michael Grey intercepts Dunigan in the end zone, James West whales on him in celebration, and Coach Mike Riley. How did the Blue win that game? I’d say the difference maker was Riley! He don’t need no stinking stats. Wanna-B-Fanboy and Mr Dee 1 1
kelownabomberfan Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 41 minutes ago, Rod Black said: In ‘88 a .500 record Bomber team went to the Grey Cup and won 22-21 over future Hall of farmer and legendary quarterback for the lions, Matt Dunigan. Winnipeg was missing Chris Walby due to injury. Sean Salisbury, that hadn’t completed 50% of his passes that year. He didn’t even have 2000 yards passing. I remember his post game victory comments. “ I don’t care what my stats were, we just wanted to win...”. His stats were awful. Two intangibles to win, Michael Grey intercepts Dunigan in the end zone, James West whales on him in celebration, and Coach Mike Riley. How did the Blue win that game? I’d say the difference maker was Riley! He don’t need no stinking stats. Actually he intercepted it on the 2 yard line. Go to around 2:15 in the video above. A lot of people say that Bob Cameron won us that Grey Cup, because he could punt into the wind, and Lui Passaglia, who had gotten soft punting indoors in BC, couldn't. Rod Black 1
Dodge and Burn Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Rod Black said: In ‘88 a .500 record Bomber team went to the Grey Cup and won 22-21 over future Hall of farmer and legendary quarterback for the lions, Matt Dunigan. Winnipeg was missing Chris Walby due to injury. Sean Salisbury, that hadn’t completed 50% of his passes that year. He didn’t even have 2000 yards passing. I remember his post game victory comments. “ I don’t care what my stats were, we just wanted to win...”. His stats were awful. Two intangibles to win, Michael Grey intercepts Dunigan in the end zone, James West whales on him in celebration, and Coach Mike Riley. How did the Blue win that game? I’d say the difference maker was Riley! He don’t need no stinking stats. Walby went down in the east semi against Hamilton. The game where just over 12000 went to. They made shirts after the cup win that said something along the lines of I was one of the 12000 that showed...they sold well over 12000 shirts. My Dad took me to that game. Had our usual safeway family endzone tickets. Edited October 16, 2018 by Dodge and Burn Rod Black 1
Rod Black Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: Actually he intercepted it on the 2 yard line. Go to around 2:15 in the video above. A lot of people say that Bob Cameron won us that Grey Cup, because he could punt into the wind, and Lui Passaglia, who had gotten soft punting indoors in BC, couldn't. Cameron! I don’t recall that but it certainly would make perfect sense! Was it Passaglia that use to smoke on the sidelines? Holy crow. West also celebrated at the end of the game and he didn’t have the ball. Appalling! Edited October 16, 2018 by Rod Black
Booch Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 38 minutes ago, Dodge and Burn said: Walby went down in the east semi against Hamilton. The game where just over 12000 went to. They made shirts after the cup win that said something along the lines of I was one of the 12000 that showed...they sold well over 12000 shirts. My Dad took me to that game. Had our usual safeway family endzone tickets. Went to that game as well as a teenager...drove in out of province to see it...damn I need a shirt!
TBURGESS Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, JCon said: And yet, you're among the first here whining when Nichols was "losing" us games. As usual, you say whatever to fit whatever narrative you want. You said this a month ago but are saying now that wins are team stats. Nichols was losing us games a month ago. Wins are what matters. That's not the same as wins are because the QB played well or that wins mean the QB played well.
TBURGESS Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 If MOS had decided to start Streveler for the Montreal game and going forward, would the fact that he won 3 or 4 of the games mean that Streveler was obviously the best QB on the team? Would you say he was great because we won?
Booch Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 I want Bennet to start a game and light it up and shut up all this nonsense and create new nonesense SPuDS, Yourface, Eternal optimist and 6 others 3 6
kelownabomberfan Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Booch said: I want Bennet to start a game and light it up and shut up all this nonsense and create new nonesense bring back Darian Durant and really get this mo-fo effed up.
JCon Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: Nichols was losing us games a month ago. Wins are what matters. That's not the same as wins are because the QB played well or that wins mean the QB played well. I recognize these words but they're organized into sentences that make no sense. Again, you say anything that fits your narrative. Wanna-B-Fanboy, blue_gold_84, SPuDS and 1 other 4
TBURGESS Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, JCon said: I recognize these words but they're organized into sentences that make no sense. Again, you say anything that fits your narrative. Don't blame me for your lack of reading comprehension. Blame your teachers. You don't even seem to understand what 'my narrative' is.
Jpan85 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 Haha Tburg reminded me of this SPuDS and blue_gold_84 2
Eternal optimist Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 8 hours ago, TBURGESS said: 2. I wasn't cherry picking. I was basing my second point on my first, which it turns out is wrong because I didn't take anyone but Harris vs Powell into account. Nichols is 7th in yards per game passing. 9 QB's have 300 yard games this season, so it's not a Nichols vs Harris argument. What I can die happy now I proved Tburg wrong. Mr Dee, SPuDS and Al Bundy 1 2
WBBFanWest Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 Captain Contrarian is able to do his Bruce Lee imitation and take on 3-4 guys at once. If anything makes him ecstatic it has everything to do with arguing and very little to do with the Bombers. Al Bundy, SPuDS and blue_gold_84 1 1 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Eternal optimist said: What I can die happy now I proved Tburg wrong. Not even close. We've all proven Tburg wrong at one point or another- that's old hat my friend... I will commend you though for being one of those rare fortunate ones where he admitted that he was wrong (now waiting for the inevitable "I never said I was wrong" Tburg reply) - that is something to hang your hat on. 😁
Dodge and Burn Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Booch said: Went to that game as well as a teenager...drove in out of province to see it...damn I need a shirt! Good luck finding one. Ive looked over the years but havent found one.
Deiter Fan Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 On 2018-10-14 at 5:03 PM, Mr Dee said: Why must there always be posters who look for the dark lining in silver clouds? For the same reason the coaching staff will be looking at the negatives of that game and trying to improve on them. Granted, you want to look at the positives, as well, so you can hopefully recreate them but to ignore the negatives is not a recipe for success. I bet if you asked Bighill if there was anything he could improve on from his performance he'd be able to point out at least a couple of things he could have done even better. Doesn't mean he doesn't think he played well. trueBlue83 1
Deiter Fan Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) On 2018-10-15 at 7:37 PM, TBURGESS said: I didn't like Nichols silly walk any more than I liked Jefferson's taking the long way to the end zone. I'm a 'pretend you've been there before and are going back' kind of guy. Agreed. Much like his comments after being booed. Frankly I think booing your starter is self defeating but fans have paid their money and if they want to boo there's not much you can do about it. Having said that...complaining about the booing is also self defeating because if your play doesn't improve you're only opening yourself up to more of the same. His unwillingness to take responsibility for his poor performances didn't help matters. I just think he's been overly emotional this year...and not in a good way. Edited October 17, 2018 by Deiter Fan
TBURGESS Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 10 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Not even close. We've all proven Tburg wrong at one point or another- that's old hat my friend... I will commend you though for being one of those rare fortunate ones where he admitted that he was wrong (now waiting for the inevitable "I never said I was wrong" Tburg reply) - that is something to hang your hat on. 😁 I was wrong, so I admitted I was wrong, like I always do. You, with your stupid tag line, ought to know that.
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