Noeller Posted November 29, 2018 Report Posted November 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jpan85 said: Think Nichols gets back to his 2017 level. Really believe he can throw for 5000 yards 30 TDs if he is healthy for the full season. If he has a good offseason training, and stays healthy all year, I fully believe he can have a big year...
Mark F Posted November 29, 2018 Report Posted November 29, 2018 19 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I think Nichols was playing with a serious knee in jury which was at its worst in September. That would have affected his performance as a qb. Did you ever hear what the injury was? I didn't. Maybe it affected his entire season.
Jpan85 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Posted November 29, 2018 If I had to guess it was a torn MCL Mark F 1
Tracker Posted November 29, 2018 Report Posted November 29, 2018 Considering how quickly Nichols turned his game around after the bye week following the two disastrous outings against the Riders, there has to be a pretty significant shinkological component to his struggles. Nichols received at lot of (deserved) criticism after his poor showing in the western semi-final and that may well affect his confidence going into next year. Or it may undermine the coaches' confidence in Nichols.
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Mark F said: Did you ever hear what the injury was? I didn't. Maybe it affected his entire season. The knee he injured just before the start of the season. After LD as the season wore on, Nichols did seem to get a bit more mobile. Not a lot but better than he'd been.
Brandon Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 I don't care about the past with LaPo and the current receivers.... this past season Nichols had many times where he looked shell shocked like Drew Willy and was either to scared to pull the trigger or was outright missing his reads as he had guys wide open down the field. It is disappointing that we have to "hope" that he returns to form.
Colin Unger Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 8 hours ago, Jpan85 said: If I had to guess it was a torn MCL Wouldn’t be surprised if all if he goes under the knife pretty soon here. Hopefully he can get back to 2017 mobility.
Mark H. Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 15 hours ago, 17to85 said: Remember the grudge lapo had when he was head coach and mack didn't give him the players he wanted on offense? Remember when oshea hired him he said he was getting more say in the players he had on offense? You think we got guys like Harris and Dressler and Demski in here? Lapo is all about deep shots and short passes with lots of YAC. With khari ir was bombs to stegall and Bruce and dump offs to Roberts and Sellers. His offense looks very similar except he doesn't have a Stegall or even a Bruce now to save his ass. Nichols can throw intermediate passes just fine but we rarely use that part of the field. Lapo wants a big play or to let his athletes pick up yards with their legs. You’re using the Mack era to make a point - did you type that with a straight face? Remember when Mike Bishop won 13 - 12 with the D generating 5 turnovers? Floyd and SPuDS 2
17to85 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark H. said: You’re using the Mack era to make a point - did you type that with a straight face? Remember when Mike Bishop won 13 - 12 with the D generating 5 turnovers? I am using Lapos sentiments to make a point about how he wanted to get more control of his offensive personnel this time around. Just because the teams weren't very good then doesn't mean we just disregard everything that happened during that time.
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Mark H. said: You’re using the Mack era to make a point - did you type that with a straight face? Remember when Mike Bishop won 13 - 12 with the D generating 5 turnovers? The only two things I remember about Michael Bishop are his Howitzer for an arm and: blue_gold_84 1
Tracker Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 11 hours ago, Colin Unger said: Wouldn’t be surprised if all if he goes under the knife pretty soon here. Hopefully he can get back to 2017 mobility. I would think that if surgery was necessary, it would have happened already. I am of the opinion that Nichols' biggest problem was between his ears. trueBlue83 1
NorthernSkunk Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 I think some people are hoping Nichols has at least some type of minor health issue so it creates an excuse for his play. SPuDS, trueBlue83 and TBURGESS 2 1
Goalie Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tracker said: I would think that if surgery was necessary, it would have happened already. I am of the opinion that Nichols' biggest problem was between his ears. Based on what? **** all. If anything he was just scared to get hit because every time he does he gets hurt. He injured himself FFS. Edited November 30, 2018 by Goalie
NorthernSkunk Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Goalie said: Based on what? **** all. If anything he was just scared to get hit because every time he does he gets hurt. He injured himself FFS. Once a player is scared to get hit that pretty much ends their career don't it.
blue_gold_84 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 20 minutes ago, Tracker said: I would think that if surgery was necessary, it would have happened already. I am of the opinion that Nichols' biggest problem was between his ears. That could very well be the case. That and getting injured/recovering from an injury are not mutually exclusive. The injury he sustained in training camp was a strange one and it does seem as though he was rushed back into action this past season. It makes me wonder if that got to him and affected his game from a mental standpoint. He had a very pedestrian season and was downright awful a number of times, too. He has to do whatever it takes this off-season to return to his 2017 - if that's even possible. It's not a good place for him or the organization, IMO. Especially with that bump in pay. I doubt he goes under the knife this off-season. What I hope happens is he and Walters can renegotiate a restructured contract, something that is more appropriate for his level of production and more team-friendly. Tracker 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Goalie said: Based on what? **** all. If anything he was just scared to get hit because every time he does he gets hurt. He injured himself FFS. **** RIGHT ON! I always see Nichols doing **** like: Edited November 30, 2018 by wanna-b-fanboy BigBlueFanatic, blue_gold_84, Noeller and 1 other 4
trueBlue83 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Posted November 30, 2018 6 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said: I doubt he goes under the knife this off-season. What I hope happens is he and Walters can renegotiate a restructured contract, something that is more appropriate for his level of production and more team-friendly. the fact that he can't even take responsibility for his poor play, and shows no accountability at times, I can't see him comprehending why Walters would be asking him to take less money. How many times did he have his post game show chat with Knuckles & Doug Brown, and say he thought he played well, after a mediocre at best, boarding awful game at times. Even with awful production, because he didn't throw an INT, he thought he played a great game. The team has to look at that and think, "if he thinks he's playing well, what's it going to take to think he had a poor game??".
Colin Unger Posted December 1, 2018 Report Posted December 1, 2018 7 hours ago, NorthernSkunk said: I think some people are hoping Nichols has at least some type of minor health issue so it creates an excuse for his play. Im not looking for an excuse for his play in 2018. I'm looking for a reason to believe he can play like he did in 2017.
Colin Unger Posted December 1, 2018 Report Posted December 1, 2018 7 hours ago, Tracker said: I would think that if surgery was necessary, it would have happened already. I am of the opinion that Nichols' biggest problem was between his ears. Being physically limited and playing on a team with a subpar receiving core can lead to between the ears problems cropping up. He needs to go home and get healthy and the team needs to focus on upgrading the receiving core for him. I honestly think Streveler is saving Nichols job right now. The fact that Streveler is so promising leads me to believe they are fine with sticking with Nichols as a bridge guy. If there was no shining star on the horizon they might be more interested in looking at other options.
17to85 Posted December 1, 2018 Report Posted December 1, 2018 2 hours ago, trueBlue83 said: he thought he played well, after a mediocre at best, boarding awful game at times. Even with awful production, because he didn't throw an INT, he thought he played a great game Because that's all lapo aske for. Guy is big on not ******* up and letting the D win for him. We all forget when he was head coach here? DR. CFL and SPuDS 2
Mark H. Posted December 1, 2018 Report Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: Because that's all lapo aske for. Guy is big on not ******* up and letting the D win for him. We all forget when he was head coach here? Right😆. And in 2017 Nichols played better just for the hell of it. JCon and blue_gold_84 1 1
17to85 Posted December 1, 2018 Report Posted December 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, Mark H. said: Right😆. And in 2017 Nichols played better just for the hell of it. Had to do more cause the D gave up more. Remember, Lapo is the coach who coaches for close games. blue_gold_84 1
Mark H. Posted December 1, 2018 Report Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: Had to do more cause the D gave up more. Remember, Lapo is the coach who coaches for close games. Ok, time for Hall to bring out the soft zone, get the QB & Lapo motivated again.
trueBlue83 Posted December 1, 2018 Report Posted December 1, 2018 11 hours ago, 17to85 said: Had to do more cause the D gave up more. Remember, Lapo is the coach who coaches for close games. So did Streveler just go rogue in Week 2 when the Bombers put up 56 points?? LaPo can build a more creative offence, he's not a moron. He's playing with the hand he's been dealt.. #15 behind centre limits your play calling capabilities.
17to85 Posted December 1, 2018 Report Posted December 1, 2018 46 minutes ago, trueBlue83 said: So did Streveler just go rogue in Week 2 when the Bombers put up 56 points?? LaPo can build a more creative offence, he's not a moron. He's playing with the hand he's been dealt.. #15 behind centre limits your play calling capabilities. Streveler just beat up a shitty D with his leg and the teams running game guy was still under 300 yards passing in that one let us not forget.
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