WBBFanWest Posted March 14, 2019 Report Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: They'd have no bargaining power. They are basically captives of the team that selects them. "Don't like our contract offer? Stay home kid. If you change your mind, call us. " I'm fairly confident that if that is truly a legitimate concern, they could put a provision in place that could allow a player to opt out of the exemption. Also, as has been pointed out, every single person drafted is in essentially the same boat. Sure 1st rounders will get more, but ultimately, they have little say in the matter. Don't like it? Well, Mr St. John, we'll be here when you decide you do.
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) If the CFL is going to do this then I hope the players have some room to negotiate. I remember Milson Jones & Stan Mikawos were territorial exemptions. I think Paul Robson, Gary Rosolowich & Rick Koswin were as well. Edited March 15, 2019 by SpeedFlex27
Engelwood Posted March 15, 2019 Report Posted March 15, 2019 I think the interesting fight would be in southern Ontario where you are going to see Hamilton and Toronto fight over who get to claim from the Western Ontario Mustangs from London and the 2 Waterloo schools and with the Maritimes team getting all of that to pick from as well.
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Posted March 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Engelwood said: I think the interesting fight would be in southern Ontario where you are going to see Hamilton and Toronto fight over who get to claim from the Western Ontario Mustangs from London and the 2 Waterloo schools and with the Maritimes team getting all of that to pick from as well. When each team had 2 territorial exemptions back in the 70's & 80's I don't recall there ever being any disputes between the 2 teams. They obviously worked it out.
Booch Posted March 15, 2019 Report Posted March 15, 2019 My thoughts that the exemtion should be a player from your own city...regardless where he went to University...and in seasons where you may not have a local kid away at a school...you can claim a guy from a western school if you are in the West, or an Eastern school if you are in the east. A provision as well is that player should be classified as a 1st round selection and have to be payed relative to what other 1st rounders in his draft class get Tracker and SpeedFlex27 1 1
JuranBoldenRules Posted March 15, 2019 Report Posted March 15, 2019 On 2019-03-13 at 9:51 PM, Noeller said: When you consider how many players come out of Quebec, it wouldn't do anyone any favours if other teams weren't allowed to draft them... Wouldn't work like that. Teams would at most be able to protect one player per season, basically add a round at the start of the draft. If they are smart they might limit it to one player every other year or three years or something like that. There'd still be a ton of players from all over Canada in the draft.
JuranBoldenRules Posted March 15, 2019 Report Posted March 15, 2019 On 2019-03-14 at 2:50 PM, SpeedFlex27 said: They'd have no bargaining power. They are basically captives of the team that selects them. "Don't like our contract offer? Stay home kid. If you change your mind, call us. " PA would likely insist on getting a guaranteed contract for these players with defined salaries, high ones. That would keep teams from using it on all but elite players. There's basically a cap in what teams will pay rookies they draft anyway and it's the same situation. SpeedFlex27 1
Noeller Posted March 15, 2019 Author Report Posted March 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Wouldn't work like that. Teams would at most be able to protect one player per season, basically add a round at the start of the draft. If they are smart they might limit it to one player every other year or three years or something like that. There'd still be a ton of players from all over Canada in the draft. Ya....asked and answered several posts ago.....
wbbfan Posted March 18, 2019 Report Posted March 18, 2019 On 2019-03-14 at 2:50 PM, SpeedFlex27 said: They'd have no bargaining power. They are basically captives of the team that selects them. "Don't like our contract offer? Stay home kid. If you change your mind, call us. " still not anywhere near as bad as the franchise tag in the NFL. But similarly, you could force teams to pay X amount if they choose to use the territorial exemption.
JCon Posted March 18, 2019 Report Posted March 18, 2019 11 hours ago, wbbfan said: still not anywhere near as bad as the franchise tag in the NFL. But similarly, you could force teams to pay X amount if they choose to use the territorial exemption. Franchise tag means you get paid the average of the TOP 5 average salary for that position. Not the same thing.
bearpants Posted March 18, 2019 Report Posted March 18, 2019 This is an interesting idea... Brian Dobie is known as a great recruiter... "where they play" might be more beneficial to the Bombers than where they were born/developed"... but then again, Bombers, Stamps and Esks would be the only teams with one "big school" to choose from... seems like a disadvantage...
Mike Posted March 20, 2019 Report Posted March 20, 2019 On 2019-03-18 at 8:37 AM, bearpants said: This is an interesting idea... Brian Dobie is known as a great recruiter... "where they play" might be more beneficial to the Bombers than where they were born/developed"... but then again, Bombers, Stamps and Esks would be the only teams with one "big school" to choose from... seems like a disadvantage... Every team should get just one team to choose from. Or you go off birthplace. Slippery slope, this idea is. bearpants 1
AKAChip Posted March 20, 2019 Report Posted March 20, 2019 Is there any legitimate reason to do this? There’s nothing wrong with the way it is now.
mbrg Posted March 20, 2019 Report Posted March 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, AKAChip said: Is there any legitimate reason to do this? There’s nothing wrong with the way it is now. Kavis Reed. He's left that franchise in a crippled and nearly irreparable state, located in the CFL's second-most disinterested market. It should be known as the Kavis Clause. What year does Montreal finally have a first-round pick again? 2021**? This is the commish contemplating throwing a life preserver to Montreal. For competent GM's, there is nothing wrong with the way it is now. **apparently 2022! SPuDS 1
JCon Posted March 21, 2019 Report Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, mbrg said: Kavis Reed. He's left that franchise in a crippled and nearly irreparable state, located in the CFL's second-most disinterested market. It should be known as the Kavis Clause. What year does Montreal finally have a first-round pick again? 2021**? This is the commish contemplating throwing a life preserver to Montreal. For competent GM's, there is nothing wrong with the way it is now. **apparently 2022! Reed has done everything with Wetenhall's consent.
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