Floyd Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Ripper said: If you guys are fine with it being the AHL out there, that's fine. Wasting my time discussing this with you But seriously what are you proposing for Lawrence? That he sit out the whole season? Stickem, JCon and wbbfan 3
17to85 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 Hey everyone here called out Lawrence for a dirty hit. I don't see why you have your panties in a twist. Oh right, cause you have to face the reality that the Riders are screwed this season. Jimmy Pop, Bigblue204 and JCon 3
Tracker Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 11 hours ago, WBBFanWest said: Ummm, all penalties are retroactive. My wording was poor- you cannot make offences with attending penalties retroactive. JCon 1
JCon Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, 17to85 said: He acts like we haven't seen Harris take head shots or cheap shots.... that's what the rider fools don't get, every team has to put up with this crap. Problem is Collaros is a broken player. Short memories caused by too much green koolaid. Late hits are all-of-a-sudden a problem that must be addressed!! Blah, blah, blah. Rider fans are laughable. Rod Black, Bigblue204, wpgallday1960 and 1 other 4
JCon Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Hey everyone here called out Lawrence for a dirty hit. I don't see why you have your panties in a twist. Oh right, cause you have to face the reality that the Riders are screwed this season. They're just realizing what everyone has known for months. Rod Black and wbbfan 2
wbbfan Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, JCon said: They're just realizing what everyone has known for months. Or that's what the CFL illuminati want us to believe 😆 Football is football, until a rider gets hurt. Bigblue204, Mark F, Fatty Liver and 3 others 3 3
TBURGESS Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 I know that the CFLPA will try to get whatever penalty the league gives Simoni reduced. It's what they always do but, Collaros is part of the CFLPA too. They should be protecting him as much as they protect Lawrence. Fred C Dobbs, bearpants, Goalie and 4 others 1 6
Geebrr Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, Ripper said: If you guys are fine with it being the AHL out there, that's fine. Wasting my time discussing this with you Your shitty QB definitely took a dirty hit, everyone here agrees. He just sucked before the hit. Rod Black, wbbfan and Albertabomberguy 3
Goalie Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, TBURGESS said: I know that the CFLPA will try to get whatever penalty the league gives Simoni reduced. It's what they always do but, Collaros is part of the CFLPA too. They should be protecting him as much as they protect Lawrence. And here lies the real problem with suspensions. TBURGESS and Mark F 2
Geebrr Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, TBURGESS said: I know that the CFLPA will try to get whatever penalty the league gives Simoni reduced. It's what they always do but, Collaros is part of the CFLPA too. They should be protecting him as much as they protect Lawrence. It is a weird system that exists in every league. wbbfan and the watcher 2
Bigblue204 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Hey everyone here called out Lawrence for a dirty hit. I don't see why you have your panties in a twist. Oh right, cause you have to face the reality that the Riders are screwed this season. To be fair they were screwed before that hit. They might have a chance now that they have our 4th string qb though. JCon and wbbfan 1 1
Mark F Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 Just now, TBURGESS said: I know that the CFLPA will try to get whatever penalty the league gives Simoni reduced. It's what they always do but, Collaros is part of the CFLPA too. They should be protecting him as much as they protect Lawrence. Good point, which I too do not understand. I dont know why the players' union seems to be more concerned with reducing suspensions, than reducing concussions
JCon Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: I know that the CFLPA will try to get whatever penalty the league gives Simoni reduced. It's what they always do but, Collaros is part of the CFLPA too. They should be protecting him as much as they protect Lawrence. They're protecting the payments. Collaros is still getting paid but Lawrence isn't, if he's suspended. They want as much money out of the league as possible. GCJenks and Geebrr 2
Goalie Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 Collaros used to be a good QB... That was 5 years ago tho now.. Now hes likely got CTE and has had lets say more than 1 concussion. He shouldn't be allowed to play... 2 years ago cuz it was obvious then he was basically Mr Potato Head. His health... Its screwed. And has been for a few years now. Collaros is not the kid from Toronto who signed with Hamilton.. Hes the man who has been destroyed playing football now. The hit was brutal... But at the same time, pinning your hopes on a concussed Vegetable is not smart either Stickem and Fatty Liver 2
Geebrr Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, JCon said: They're protecting the payments. Collaros is still getting paid but Lawrence isn't, if he's suspended. They want as much money out of the league as possible. The league is technically required to protect the safety of the players. They hire the refs, enforce the rules, and hand out penalties. It is just a strange optic conflict of interest when the PA defends the offender. GCJenks and JCon 2
JCon Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Geebrr said: The league is technically required to protect the safety of the players. They hire the refs, enforce the rules, and hand out penalties. It is just a strange optic conflict of interest when the PA defends the offender. It's certainly a unique situation. Unions often find themselves defending the actions of one individual against another union member. In some ways they're a collective and in others they act for the individual. Geebrr and Rod Black 1 1
Goalie Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 PAs are bad for sports actually. Every sport... Its mind boggling the stupidity here.
Rod Black Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, Ripper said: If you guys are fine with it being the AHL out there, that's fine. Wasting my time discussing this with you So move on. Bigblue204 and Geebrr 1 1
Mr Dee Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Posted June 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, Ripper said: If you guys are fine with it being the AHL out there, that's fine. Wasting my time discussing this with you No, you’re wasting our time.. Rod Black, Stickem, Bigblue204 and 5 others 4 3 1
Fatty Liver Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, JCon said: They're just realizing what everyone has known for months. What ever do you mean??? That the Riders have the best collection of old players in the league? That the "great" Chris Jones fled in the middle of the night after robbing them blind for 3 seasons leaving behind a poor foundation for those that follow to build upon? That Dickenson's initial season as HC is now primed to melt down into a giant puddle of excrement staining their brand new turf? That they'll be forced to start from scratch with a new regime again next year? The wailing from Sask. will be immense, I'm donning ear protection and safety goggles now! Rod Black and JCon 1 1
Bubba Zanetti Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: What ever do you mean??? That the Riders have the best collection of old players in the league? That the "great" Chris Jones fled in the middle of the night after robbing them blind for 3 seasons leaving behind a poor foundation for those that follow to build upon? That Dickenson's initial season as HC is now primed to melt down into a giant puddle of excrement staining their brand new turf? That they'll be forced to start from scratch with a new regime again next year? The wailing from Sask. will be immense, I'm donning ear protection and safety goggles now! Not me. I want to see and hear it all! Bomberfan85 1
kelownabomberfan Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: What ever do you mean??? That the Riders have the best collection of old players in the league? That the "great" Chris Jones fled in the middle of the night after robbing them blind for 3 seasons leaving behind a poor foundation for those that follow to build upon? That Dickenson's initial season as HC is now primed to melt down into a giant puddle of excrement staining their brand new turf? That they'll be forced to start from scratch with a new regime again next year? The wailing from Sask. will be immense, I'm donning ear protection and safety goggles now! they call excrement stains on their turf "adding character". Same rule goes for their living room. Rod Black 1
Wideleft Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 TORONTO — The Canadian Football League announced Monday that it has issued a two-game suspension to Hamilton Tiger-Cats linebacker Simoni Lawrence. The suspensions comes after the veteran linebacker made direct contact to the head of Saskatchewan Roughriders quarterback Zach Collaros in the Ticats’ season opener on Thursday at Tim Hortons Field. As a result, Lawrence will miss matchups against division rivals Toronto Argonauts in Week 2 and Montreal Alouettes in Week 3. In a league-issued statement, Commissioner Randy Ambrosie said the following: On play #4 of CFL game #10, our regular season opener in Hamilton on Thursday, June 13, Hamilton Tiger-Cat Simoni Lawrence made direct contact to the head of Saskatchewan Roughrider quarterback Zach Collaros after Collaros had “given himself up” by starting his feet first slide. This dangerous and reckless hit has no place in our game. After a careful review of the play, which was called for unnecessary roughness on the field and assessed a 25-yard penalty, and a hearing with Lawrence, we are imposing a two-game suspension. We want to put this supplemental discipline in its proper context by making the following important points. 1. Player safety is the top priority for CFL. This point was stressed yet again as recently as June 12, the day before the game in question, in a league memo to all clubs which clearly stated: “Any player who performs an illegal act that creates a substantial and unnecessary risk of injury to an opposing player in a reckless and dangerous manner and outside of the acceptable standards of play will be subject to a suspension.” 2. In our recent discussions with the Canadian Football Players Association (CFLPA) that led to a new collective bargaining agreement (CBA), and in its public statements, the players association has said many times that player health and safety is also the players’ top priority. 3. Several individual players have continued to echo that sentiment on social media, during and since those CBA talks, including this past weekend. 4.We all need to walk all of this talk in a meaningful way now, at the outset of our season, by sending and supporting a clear and unequivocal message on player safety. 5. The precise circumstance that occurred on this play was identified this Spring by our Rules Committee, which includes the leadership of the CFLPA, as one that requires urgent and strong action. It passed a rule change that increased the focus on such a play and the scope of what is considered a penalty. Our supplemental discipline needs to mirror this emphasis. 6. We want to stress that this discipline is the result of this player’s actions on this play and this play alone. In fact, he has never been previously fined or suspended for dangerous play since joining the league in 2012. In addition, he has expressed contrition for his actions and concern for his opponent and former teammate’s health and well-being. However, dangerous and reckless play must be disciplined, not simply for the sake of punishment alone, but to deter such play in the future . All of us, league and players, need to take and support strong action to promote and protect player health and safety, and we need to work together. – Randy Ambrosie, CFL, Commissioner Fatty Liver, Tracker, wbbfan and 5 others 7 1
Mr Dee Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Posted June 17, 2019 Hamilton Tiger-Cats linebacker Simoni Lawrence has been suspended two games for his hit to the head of Saskatchewan Roughriders quarterback Zach Collaros in his team’s season opener Thursday, the league announced on Monday. Hey Simoni, we’re sorry. We didn’t mean it. wbbfan 1
JuranBoldenRules Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 45 minutes ago, Geebrr said: The league is technically required to protect the safety of the players. They hire the refs, enforce the rules, and hand out penalties. It is just a strange optic conflict of interest when the PA defends the offender. “Defend” is the wrong terminology though. They are both PA members and there is an agreed upon process per the CBA for discipline. Rod Black 1
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