Rod Black Posted July 14, 2019 Report Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I do think if the league does a financial audit & they find improprieties then the Als should be subject to penalties like the other teams would be. However, your point is valid. Would the CFL penalize the new owners of the Als? Probably not. New CFL partners in ownership at the Als would have every right to have buyers remorse if the league decides to go on an overly aggressive investigation. Joe Mack could be in ship though. Poor start to a relationship, id think. Edited July 14, 2019 by Rod Black
bigg jay Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Mr. Perfect said: Cheating the cap yet he fields a team like that? Amazing. In all seriousness though, circumventing the cap and charging staff for plane tickets....ban him for life. I'm not sure that's what happened. I could be misreading, but it sounds like he was billing the team for his personal trips. GCJenks and Noeller 1 1
bigg jay Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) Double post Edited July 15, 2019 by bigg jay
Brandon Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 The one tweet said he was using the team money to pay for his personal trips. Noeller and wbbfan 2
Noeller Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 Ya, Chase read it wrong... It was Kavis billing the organization for personal stuff. Brutal.
Rod Black Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 47 minutes ago, Noeller said: Ya, Chase read it wrong... It was Kavis billing the organization for personal stuff. Brutal. He’s a thief. wbbfan 1
wbbfan Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rod Black said: He’s a thief. I really really hope this is the last we have seen of Reed in the CFL. Better management in Sask was good for the league (addition by subtraction) Reed canned, khari taking over the HC job, what could be stable owners with local roots for MTL, alot of good things happening this year. Tor still needs to be fixed but that won't be quick or easy. Bubba Zanetti 1
Mike#2 Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 Maybe they are still under the cap now. And maybe it was the team coaching salary cap and not players? Either way they could six game a few players to stay under the cap and I thought the cap needed to be met at the end of the year. Ie cut people to stay u see it before vet contracts are guaranteed .
Rod Black Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, wbbfan said: I really really hope this is the last we have seen of Reed in the CFL. Better management in Sask was good for the league (addition by subtraction) Reed canned, khari taking over the HC job, what could be stable owners with local roots for MTL, alot of good things happening this year. Tor still needs to be fixed but that won't be quick or easy. Khari is such a great guy. He has the success formula. A professional. Montreal has new ownership, with light at the end of the tunnel. While watching the Argos and Blue on Friday, I couldn’t quite understand how they could fall so far from being champs just 20 months ago. Well they did have crappy attendance then also. Solid Canadian ownership/management, like the Trevelings, would be a tremendous boost. wbbfan 1
Tracker Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) There has been consequences to Reed's screwing with the rules- he has been fired, the coach has been fired and Mack has to be on very thin ice. I do not expect Mack to survive the coming purge and the best he can hope for is to survive the season with his salary. I cannot see how the CFL can punish the team to any extent. The team is staggering at best with a flicker of hope and the truth is that the CFL is much better off with a vibrant team in Montreal. Reed is done in the CFL and probably in all of pro football. he will be lucky if he is not charged with fraud. Edited July 15, 2019 by Tracker the watcher, The Classic, Rod Black and 1 other 3 1
Rod Black Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Tracker said: There has been consequences to Reed's screwing with the rules- he has been fired, the coach has been fired and Mack has to be on very thin ice. I do not expect Mack to survive the coming purge and the best he can hope for is to survive the season with his salary. I cannot see how the CFL can punish the team to any extent. The team is staggering at best with a flicker of hope and the truth is that the CFL is much better off with a vibrant team in Montreal. Reed is done in the CFL and probably in all of pro football. he will be lucky if he is not charged with fraud. po There’s a spot for him at Widener College with no budget responsibilities. Goalie, SpeedFlex27 and Noeller 2 1
Pete Catan's Ghost Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 Everyone thought Chris Jones was the CFL's biggest villain, all dressed in black with his safe house full of practice players. Yet there was old Konsequences Kavis...hiding in the reeds while embezzling from his own club.
Rod Black Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, Pete Catan's Ghost said: Everyone thought Chris Jones was the CFL's biggest villain, all dressed in black with his safe house full of practice players. Yet there was old Konsequences Kavis...hiding in the reeds while embezzling from his own club. Well, he was. We need villains. Goalie 1
Fatty Liver Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Pete Catan's Ghost said: Everyone thought Chris Jones was the CFL's biggest villain, all dressed in black with his safe house full of practice players. Yet there was old Konsequences Kavis...hiding in the reeds while embezzling from his own club. Jones stole money from the Rider organization, the difference is he put it in his contract and got the flat-billies to agree to let him do it. The Classic, Tracker, Fred C Dobbs and 4 others 7
Eternal optimist Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 11 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I do think if the league does a financial audit & they find improprieties then the Als should be subject to penalties like the other teams would be. However, your point is valid. Would the CFL penalize the new owners of the Als? Probably not. As someone who works in the field, it is the responsibility of Als management to detect fraud, not the auditors. This is a huge misconception in accounting. kelownabomberfan and Tracker 1 1
Fraser Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 31 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said: As someone who works in the field, it is the responsibility of Als management to detect fraud, not the auditors. This is a huge misconception in accounting. I would agree with a financial audit as I'm sure kavis's trips etc are probably below the threshold for materiality and even then it's not the financial auditors responsibility to know if he's actually scouting or whatever he said he was doing on the trip. But I think he's suggesting the league comes in and does some kind of forensic audit.
Bubba Zanetti Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Just change the logo & suddenly we travel back in time to 2013. #nightmares He looks even sleepier now! Good luck Montreal! Kiss your Canadian talent and draft picks goodbye. Edited July 15, 2019 by Bubba Zanetti
Guest J5V Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said: He looks even sleepier now! Good luck Montreal! Kiss your Canadian talent and draft picks goodbye. I have a feeling he won't be there for long. Certainly not long enough to do much damage.
Rod Black Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: Bob Irving acknowledges Bombers doing Good without winning a cup. Interesting concept. Lol
Noeller Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 read a quote from Mack today saying he was asked to be a "transition" guy for the Als to bridge the gap until they find a new one. He'll be in Montreal "most of the time" to do the GM work...
do or die Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 Claybrooks has figured out what is going wrong: https://post.futurimedia.com/ckstam/playlist/10/listen-18608.html?cb=1563200554.900891 I coach good. They play bad. This won't end well...... Noeller 1
Noeller Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, do or die said: Claybrooks has figured out what is going wrong: https://post.futurimedia.com/ckstam/playlist/10/listen-18608.html?cb=1563200554.900891 I coach good. They play bad. This won't end well...... I read that quote this morning and went "Oooooohhhh". For those who want a TLDR, Claybrooks: "Not my fault"..... GCJenks 1
AKAChip Posted July 15, 2019 Report Posted July 15, 2019 Even if that’s true, it’s the coaches job to wear a team’s poor performance and if you want to give it to players collectively or individually, do it in private. It’s what makes O’Shea a good coach. USABomberfan and Noeller 1 1
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