SpeedFlex27 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Noeller said: Listen, anything can happen "any given Sunday" (or Friday, as it were), but based on where we are right now and where Ottawa is, in terms of talent and injuries, there is no way we should lose to Jon Jennings....anything can happen, but it shouldn't. You just gave Tburg a reason to be waiting in the weeds. Mark F 1
kelownabomberfan Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 Jennings will throw for 300 - this we already know.
SpeedFlex27 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Jacquie said: That's your opinion but do you have proof? I don't know one way or the other since there has been nothing in any of the reports that this was happening during Reed's first year in Montreal. This is about as close to proof that you're going to get, Jacquie. Even the Montreal Alouettes beat writer Stu Cowan doesn't believe Als President Patrick Boivin didn't know what was going on with the salary cap. According to Cowan, "If Reed was indeed circumventing the CFL salary cap & that was why he was fired, you have to figure that Boivin knew what his GM was doing and you have to wonder how long this was going on. If Boivin didn't know what was going on as President & CEO of the team, that's even worse. Boivin seems to have thrown Reed under the team bus". There you have it. Cowan, who is close to the team figures Boivin probably knew what Reed was doing. Although he isn't 100% certain. https://montrealgazette.com/sports/football/cfl/montreal-alouettes/stu-cowan-secrecy-over-kavis-reed-firing-paints-alouettes-in-bad-light?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Edited July 16, 2019 by SpeedFlex27
USABomberfan Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: This is about as close to proof that you're going to get, Jacquie. Even the Montreal Alouettes beat writer Stu Cowan doesn't believe Als President Patrick Boivin didn't know what was going on with the salary cap. According to Cowan, "If Reed was indeed circumventing the CFL salary cap & that was why he was fired, you have to figure that Boivin knew what his GM was doing and you have to wonder how long this was going on. If Boivin didn't know what was going on as President & CEO of the team, that's even worse. Boivin seems to have thrown Reed under the team bus". There you have it. Cowan, who is close to the team figures Boivin probably knew what Reed was doing. Although he isn't 100% certain. https://montrealgazette.com/sports/football/cfl/montreal-alouettes/stu-cowan-secrecy-over-kavis-reed-firing-paints-alouettes-in-bad-light?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Interesting stuff too. Gets me curious as to how long it could have been going on and wondering whether the now departed Wettenhall owners also knew of this?
SpeedFlex27 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, USABomberfan said: Interesting stuff too. Gets me curious as to how long it could have been going on and wondering whether the now departed Wettenhall owners also knew of this? You don't lose $12.5 million & not try to find where all the money was spent & how. Otherwise you do know. Tracker 1
USABomberfan Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: You don't lose $12.5 million & not try to find where all the money was spent & how. Otherwise you do know. And perhaps being why they decided to jump the ship and figured ehhh ... We'll just let Reed go down with it lol. Embezzlement wouldn't surprise me though given the Wettenhalls' known ties to mobsters Edited July 16, 2019 by USABomberfan
SpeedFlex27 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, USABomberfan said: And perhaps being why they decided to jump the ship and figured ehhh ... We'll just let Reed go down with it lol. That could very well be. The Wettenhalls sure overstayed their welcome. Just like Braley in BC.
USABomberfan Posted July 16, 2019 Report Posted July 16, 2019 I found myself laughing about about the lines of "Reed's reputation getting damaged." Lol, since when was it ever good? That's news to me. SpeedFlex27, Rod Black, Tracker and 1 other 4
USABomberfan Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 A few other ideas about the mess in Montreal crossed my mind. Wonder if any of the unnamed sources popping up in that article was Mike Sherman. Could any involvement of his in this rumored embezzlement case have led to the odd timing of his firing? Could he have been about to be a whistleblower on this and Reed latched onto that firing him before he could? I know all of this is just a ton of speculation on my part and not really with any base. But two things are circulating in my mind. 1. The Wettenhalls had always said when questioned about the Als that they were never even considering selling them. I mean, I know in a business things can always change an owner's mind, but it just seems odd to be so firm in that position and then just out of the blue decide to sell. If this fraud was going on and they were in it, maybe someone threatened to go public with it and blackmailed them into selling the team, or they figured the fudged financial reports were going to be noticed soon and figured it was time to parachute out knowing Reed and maybe Bolvin would end up hanging for it. 2. Just like Reed's firing, Sherman's firing was so odd too. I saw a new one there in firing the head coach not right after the previous season had ended, or even several weeks into the new one, but right before it even started. It made no sense for the GM to be so sure he was keeping his head coach all that time, then suddenly not only fire him but lie about it saying that they had parted ways sending him quietly off into the night as it were. And then now Kavis Reed gets axed right as the team gets to 2-2, also a strange development. The Als executives have certainly attempted to keep what could be one of the biggest PR nightmares in franchise history under wraps, and if I'm one of the new owners I'd be calling for a full investigation into this. But man, this just wouldn't surprise me in the least.
SpeedFlex27 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 6 hours ago, NorthernSkunk said: I guess yer gonna have to open up your mind and have a look around. GCJenks and SPuDS 2
do or die Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 4 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: You just gave Tburg a reason to be waiting in the weeds. Looking too cheerful..... blue_gold_84 1
WinnipegGordo Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, USABomberfan said: A few other ideas about the mess in Montreal crossed my mind. Wonder if any of the unnamed sources popping up in that article was Mike Sherman. Could any involvement of his in this rumored embezzlement case have led to the odd timing of his firing? Could he have been about to be a whistleblower on this and Reed latched onto that firing him before he could? I know all of this is just a ton of speculation on my part and not really with any base. But two things are circulating in my mind. 1. The Wettenhalls had always said when questioned about the Als that they were never even considering selling them. I mean, I know in a business things can always change an owner's mind, but it just seems odd to be so firm in that position and then just out of the blue decide to sell. If this fraud was going on and they were in it, maybe someone threatened to go public with it and blackmailed them into selling the team, or they figured the fudged financial reports were going to be noticed soon and figured it was time to parachute out knowing Reed and maybe Bolvin would end up hanging for it. 2. Just like Reed's firing, Sherman's firing was so odd too. I saw a new one there in firing the head coach not right after the previous season had ended, or even several weeks into the new one, but right before it even started. It made no sense for the GM to be so sure he was keeping his head coach all that time, then suddenly not only fire him but lie about it saying that they had parted ways sending him quietly off into the night as it were. And then now Kavis Reed gets axed right as the team gets to 2-2, also a strange development. The Als executives have certainly attempted to keep what could be one of the biggest PR nightmares in franchise history under wraps, and if I'm one of the new owners I'd be calling for a full investigation into this. But man, this just wouldn't surprise me in the least. There is an article on 3Down that indicates it was the league that fired Sherman and they didn't tell Reed about it ahead of time. Edited July 17, 2019 by WinnipegGordo
USABomberfan Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said: There is an article on 3Down that indicates it was the league that fired Sherman and they didn't tell Reed about it ahead of time. Similar thing was mentioned in the MTL gazette article that was just posted here about the league making the call to fire Reed too. The league is atm of course the body who owns the Als. I know what you mentioned about them possibly firing Sherman at the time and now kicking Reed out could be 2 unrelated incidents. But somehow I just get this weird feeling that there are in fact dots connecting the two.
Blueandgold Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Noeller said: how is 2001 so long ago that people around here aren't clear on the details??? It was the greatest season of Bombers football in what......the last 30 years? I mean i did remember it correctly actually .. and it was the most heartbreaking Bomber season for sure. Hard to say it was the greatest season when a team that good doesn’t win the Cup.
SpeedFlex27 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 Thirty years? More like 20 plus 1. Bombers pissed that Grey Cup away thinking the Stamps would just lie down & let them win. Dave Ritchie didn't do enough to reign in some of his players who were beaking off to the media all week in Montreal. I remember that game & it still pisses me off. Tracker 1
Noeller Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 the best season of Bombers ball since 1990 was 2001, period. Full stop. End of discussion. Mr. Perfect and blue_gold_84 1 1
Goalie Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 Als release stef logan. Lots of off field issues they say. USABomberfan 1
TBURGESS Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 A few things on the Montreal situation: Gotta assume we're not talking about tiny amounts of money. Kavis is definitely not taking that money out of his own pocket. If the Envelopes in the locker room is accurate, not only did the GM know about it, everyone did. That sounds like SOP for the team. Once the league took the team over, they'd start looking at the finances. Now there's no line item for 'Under The Table' payments, but the money would show up pretty quickly. The CFL couldn't allow the Under The Table transactions to continue, so they had to do something. Not sure why it took so long, but then again it took them over a month to suspend Lawrence.
rebusrankin Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 Seems like it was a really shady situation in Montreal and likely has been for some time. In Penton's latest piece, one of the Insider comments was about how people figured AC was getting $ under the table.
Brandon Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 59 minutes ago, Goalie said: Als release stef logan. Lots of off field issues they say. He also looked slow AF on his returns.... he's done. Bigblue204 1
sweep the leg Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 Herb Zurkowsky @HerbZurkowsky1 I’m told members of the #AlsMTL coaching staff wanted to jettison @StefLogan11 before the 2018 season, but he was being protected by former GM Kavis Reed. Indeed, Logan told a teammate he was “untouchable.” Bigblue204, Noeller and GCJenks 3
Bigblue204 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Brandon said: He also looked slow AF on his returns.... he's done. Yeah not sure why they hung on to him the last few years. Hasn't done a damn thing.
SpeedFlex27 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Noeller said: the best season of Bombers ball since 1990 was 2001, period. Full stop. End of discussion. Yeah, I agree with that. Noeller 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, sweep the leg said: Herb Zurkowsky @HerbZurkowsky1 I’m told members of the #AlsMTL coaching staff wanted to jettison @StefLogan11 before the 2018 season, but he was being protected by former GM Kavis Reed. Indeed, Logan told a teammate he was “untouchable.” The Alouettes Country Club. Where deadwood rises to the top.
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