Ehlers on the block

[Floyd]

Jets shopping ehlers due to cap issues...

[Goalie]

No. Teams are calling them. 

[AKAChip]

Trading one of their best contracts due to cap issues seems like a extremely, mind-numbingly stupid idea but what do I know? Maybe trading the declining guy signed for 9 mil until he's 38 is a better option.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

29 minutes ago, AKAChip said:

Trading one of their best contracts due to cap issues seems like a extremely, mind-numbingly stupid idea but what do I know? Maybe trading the declining guy signed for 9 mil until he's 38 is a better option.

 

Edited June 15, 2019 by FrostyWinnipeg

[AKAChip]

Let's call him Blake W. No, no that's too obvious. B. Wheeler.

But it's only 8.25 mil. My bad.

Edited June 15, 2019 by AKAChip

[FrostyWinnipeg]

1 minute ago, AKAChip said:

Let's call him Blake W. No, no that's too obvious. B. Wheeler.

If by declining is 91pts which ties his high and 4th most pts by RW then i'm all in for declining.

[AKAChip]

His numbers are vastly inflated by his (still very good) PP production. But his scoring and level of play significantly dipped by the end of the season. He will be 34 next season and his defence, which was never particularly good, became laughably bad by the end of last season. Forgive me if I don't want to pay a premium for whatever he becomes at age 34-38.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

7 minutes ago, AKAChip said:

His numbers are vastly inflated by his (still very good) PP production. But his scoring and level of play significantly dipped by the end of the season. He will be 34 next season and his defence, which was never particularly good, became laughably bad by the end of last season. Forgive me if I don't want to pay a premium for whatever he becomes at age 34-38.

Everyone's level of play significantly dipped by the end of the season.

[AKAChip]

1 minute ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Everyone's level of play significantly dipped by the end of the season.

Everyone else isn't making 8.25 million until they're 38 years old, which is ultimately the crux of the issue.

[blue_gold_84]

No way the captain gets moved at this juncture, regardless of his cap hit. I'm no fan of his contract but "whatever he becomes" remains to be seen at this point and he's still a major piece of this team.

[AKAChip]

I don't think it will happen, but I will go to my grace certain that it's the right call. There are many reasons to be significantly concerned about the future of this team with Wheeler and Byfuglien at the tail end of their effectiveness and no one who can specifically replace what either of them do. This is a winger heavy team, with almost all of their high end prospects also being wingers. Not exactly a recipe for long term success.

As far as the Wheeler issue goes, of course we can't say for sure what he will be over the next few years. It's just hard to not sound the alarm after seeing his play in the last half of last season considering his age. I recognize that the nature of professional sport is you pay a player for their past performance rather than what they will contribute in the future but it doesn't make it particularly intelligent.

[iHeart]

I don't think we should trade away a player that's still useful to us

[AKAChip]

Ah, so only trade people when they have no value. Got it. 

[Floyd]

2 minutes ago, AKAChip said:

Ah, so only trade people when they have no value. Got it. 

No were trading ehlers while he’s at max value

[iHeart]

to me I wouldn't trade him unless we get someone good, I think I heard McKinnon get whispered around a bit or something

[AKAChip]

This was in reference to iHeart, but no. Ehlers is not at peak value and thus at his contract is far more valuable as a player for this team, as literally the only forward who can cross the opponent’s blueline with possession, than whatever return he would get. Trading him is asinine. 

[AKAChip]

Just now, iHeart said:

to me I wouldn't trade him unless we get someone good, I think I heard McKinnon get whispered around a bit or something

Lol

[Goalie]

Teams are actually calling the Jets so unless we get that stud#1 RHD or 1B center.. Ehlers will be a Jet. They aren't moving him for mystery boxes

[iHeart]

12 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Teams are actually calling the Jets so unless we get that stud#1 RHD or 1B center.. Ehlers will be a Jet. They aren't moving him for mystery boxes

or what's behind door number whatever

[Floyd]

Jets in talks with hurricanes 

[Jimmy Pop]

You get hosed on a Trouba deal so the follow-up move is dealing you’re best possession forward? That forward who’s signed for 1/2 of eternity at a reasonable cap hit? That forward who’s best friends with Laine? 

Christ almighty. Can we confirm the Kevin Cheveldayoff of 2011-2018 is still in fact employed by the Jets?? 

 

[JCon]

1 minute ago, Jimmy Pop said:

You get hosed on a Trouba deal so the follow-up move is dealing you’re best possession forward? That forward who’s signed for 1/2 of eternity at a reasonable cap hit? That forward who’s best friends with Laine? 

Christ almighty. Can we confirm the Kevin Cheveldayoff of 2011-2018 is still in fact employed by the Jets?? 

 

Hosed? 

[Floyd]

Am I the only one who thinks 6 goals and 20 assists is pretty good for a D

[Brandon]

27 minutes ago, JCon said:

Hosed? 

I understand not trading for several players in order to save money...  it would of been nice had they at least received another 3rd / 4th round pick …..  it does feel like we got rid of Trouba for nothing since Hayes is no longer with us.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

17 minutes ago, Floyd said:

Am I the only one who thinks 6 goals and 20 assists is pretty good for a D

Well I thought that too when Joe Morrow came out of MTL with 5g6a in 38 games 🙄