FrostyWinnipeg Posted July 20, 2019 Author Report Posted July 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Floyd said: What a garbage offer to Copp... we're going to lose all our draft and develop guys On top of the guys we trade our first round picks too 😛
Goalie Posted July 20, 2019 Report Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Floyd said: What a garbage offer to Copp... we're going to lose all our draft and develop guys Do you know how arbitration works tho. Apparently not. The 1 side goes ultra low the other goes high... Meet in middle. This is the arbitration number.. 2.9 for an RFA like Copp is a bit high. The arbitrator will come in around 2.3 ish. Jets will be fine with that. This going low in arbitration isnt new. It's how teams operate. Oh? Like who.. Who have we lost that we drafted and developed besides Trouba? Myers? Nope. Tanev? Nope. Chiarot? Atlanta took him. Lemieux? Nope he was part of the Myers trade. Who have we lost besides Trouba? And honestly... This is how u build a sustainable winner.. Non core players move on. Copp isn't good enough to be a core player. Edited July 20, 2019 by Goalie Brandon 1
Goalie Posted July 20, 2019 Report Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) **** it. No members of your bottom 6 are core players.. Guys like Copp Perreault Tanev etc are guys you let go so you can keep your actual stars. The copps and tanevs are replaced by guys on ELCs. This is how the current NHL works. These bottom 6 guys are not part of the core group. If Copp wants to be here, he will be. If not, he will be replaced by a guy on his ELC in 2 years. And we move on.. Losing bottom 6 guys? Welcome to the new NHL where you are building around your stars, Jets have a few of them. Edited July 20, 2019 by Goalie
Floyd Posted July 20, 2019 Report Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Goalie said: Do you know how arbitration works tho. Apparently not. The 1 side goes ultra low the other goes high... Meet in middle. This is the arbitration number.. 2.9 for an RFA like Copp is a bit high. The arbitrator will come in around 2.3 ish. Jets will be fine with that. This going low in arbitration isnt new. It's how teams operate. Oh? Like who.. Who have we lost that we drafted and developed besides Trouba? Myers? Nope. Tanev? Nope. Chiarot? Atlanta took him. Lemieux? Nope he was part of the Myers trade. Who have we lost besides Trouba? And honestly... This is how u build a sustainable winner.. Non core players move on. Copp isn't good enough to be a core player. Ugh you're undeservedly smug some days... nice straw man I know exactly how arbitration works and Copp deserved a multi-year deal at the same pay as Lowry - as in he should not be going to arbitration I also know that guys who go to arbitration are almost always goners
Floyd Posted July 20, 2019 Report Posted July 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Copp asking for only 1 year Starting to see where the locker room divide was... I'm sure Trouba was a problem but Maurice playing guys like Roslo and Copp 8 minutes a game - they're probably going nuts
Brandon Posted July 21, 2019 Report Posted July 21, 2019 Copp is asking for 1 year because he wants to get paid sooner then later. The offer isn't an insult it's a typical offer. He'll get 2.25 hopefully for 2 seasons. Goalie 1
rebusrankin Posted July 21, 2019 Report Posted July 21, 2019 How the **** did Pionk get 3 million a year?
Floyd Posted July 22, 2019 Report Posted July 22, 2019 Between Pionk and Kulikov, Jets are locked into some garbage D contracts this year... wtf Chevy just handed a garbage defence man who had a few good offensive games the same contract as Morrissey... Morrissey-Pionk Kulikov-Buff Beaulieu-NIku That is ugly.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted July 22, 2019 Author Report Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, rebusrankin said: How the **** did Pionk get 3 million a year? For a dman, 6g a year is worth 3m/yr. It's the new normal.
blue_gold_84 Posted July 22, 2019 Report Posted July 22, 2019 For all intents and purposes, it's a bridge deal for Pionk. Not sure why anyone's upset about that. Dr Zaius, JCon and Goalie 3
Dr Zaius Posted July 22, 2019 Report Posted July 22, 2019 Pionk was a young d-man carrying around the corpse of Staal at 23 years old. It was akin to when Trouba was stapled to Mark Stuart. Pionk will be fine when he's playing on an actual good team with a puck-moving partner. blue_gold_84 1
kelownabomberfan Posted July 22, 2019 Report Posted July 22, 2019 2020 Norris Trophy winner - Neal Pionk. Calling it now. Floyd 1
Brandon Posted July 22, 2019 Report Posted July 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Dr Zaius said: Pionk was a young d-man carrying around the corpse of Staal at 23 years old. It was akin to when Trouba was stapled to Mark Stuart. Pionk will be fine when he's playing on an actual good team with a puck-moving partner. When they traded for him, on 1290 they had some of the Rangers sports guys on and they said Pionk had a really good first half of last season and was more then capable of being a top 4 d-man. As the season went on his play tanked and they weren't sure if it was fatigue or because of the team he was playing with.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted July 22, 2019 Author Report Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Brandon said: When they traded for him, on 1290 they had some of the Rangers sports guys on and they said Pionk had a really good first half of last season and was more then capable of being a top 4 d-man. As the season went on his play tanked and they weren't sure if it was fatigue or because of the team he was playing with. Sounds like most of the Jets post Xmas.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted July 22, 2019 Author Report Posted July 22, 2019 https://globalnews.ca/news/5669033/new-calgary-arena-tentative-agreement/
JCon Posted July 23, 2019 Report Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: https://globalnews.ca/news/5669033/new-calgary-arena-tentative-agreement/ No stadium a part of that deal and that's a shame. rebusrankin 1
Noeller Posted July 23, 2019 Report Posted July 23, 2019 As bad as the arena is, that stadium is a bag of dung and needs replacing. blue_gold_84 and JCon 1 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted July 23, 2019 Author Report Posted July 23, 2019 You'd think 600m would get you an arena and stadium.
kelownabomberfan Posted July 23, 2019 Report Posted July 23, 2019 Curious to know how many other players are going to arbitration this year. Seems like the Jets are the ones always being subjected to this humiliation. Floyd 1
Brandon Posted July 23, 2019 Report Posted July 23, 2019 I wonder if they give Copp a shot this season to replace Little as the 2C? FrostyWinnipeg 1
blue_gold_84 Posted July 23, 2019 Report Posted July 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: Curious to know how many other players are going to arbitration this year. Seems like the Jets are the ones always being subjected to this humiliation. https://www.nhlpa.com/news/1-17569/40-players-elect-salary-arbitration 40 players in total filed for arbitration, two of which are Jets.
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