FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 1, 2020 Author Report Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, iHeart said: Gotta trade O to get D. My fave comment on twitter was the Jets should trade Laine and Ehlers and get a 2nd line center. Edited September 1, 2020 by FrostyWinnipeg
Noeller Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 I kinda liked Wiebe's take, saying they should move Wheeler to 2C full time, and move Laine to RW1 full time.....
Goalie Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 4 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Gotta trade O to get D. My fave comment on twitter was the Jets should trade Laine and Ehlers and get a 2nd line center. That would be dumb. If you look on the list there are no D there. There are no centers there. There is no logic there. Its clickbait like it is every off season with Jets players.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 1, 2020 Author Report Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Goalie said: That would be dumb. If you look on the list there are no D there. There are no centers there. There is no logic there. Its clickbait like it is every off season with Jets players. Lots of D on that list. They listed as LD and RD. OEL got 7 years left Edited September 1, 2020 by FrostyWinnipeg
JCon Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 WARNING: Reading this nonsense made my head hurt and reading the comments induced vomiting. Marc Bergevin will need to be aggressive if Patrik Laine is on the market https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2020/9/1/21409589/patrik-laine-trade-rumours-montreal-canadiens-goals-winnipeg-jets-marc-bergevin-cheveldayoff-package I just want others to suffer as I have.
Dr Zaius Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) Just now, JCon said: WARNING: Reading this nonsense made my head hurt and reading the comments induced vomiting. Marc Bergevin will need to be aggressive if Patrik Laine is on the market https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2020/9/1/21409589/patrik-laine-trade-rumours-montreal-canadiens-goals-winnipeg-jets-marc-bergevin-cheveldayoff-package I just want others to suffer as I have. Lol Jeff Petry as the main piece? That's not even close in value and this article obviously has a homer habs bias. The conversation starts with Kotkianemi + Edited September 1, 2020 by Dr Zaius JCon 1
JCon Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said: Lol Jeff Petry as the main piece? That's not even close in value and this article obviously has a homer habs bias. The conversation starts with Kotkianemi + Or Suzuki. But seriously, Weber or Petry is what they're suggesting as trade bait?
Mr Dee Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 Laine should not be traded. He is a star. This whole debacle started when we lost 4 starting defensemen. That is not easy to move on from. It affects everybody. Plug some holes, but don’t trade your stars.. Stickem, Noeller and iHeart 2 1
rebusrankin Posted September 2, 2020 Report Posted September 2, 2020 With our cap space do we not have enough to sign say Dillon and resign Demelo? So we could go Morrisey/Demelo Pionk/Dillon Poolman/Heinola (or Niku or Sandberg) Say a depth guy like Bealiu Then move Wheeler to 2c Mr Dee 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 2, 2020 Author Report Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, rebusrankin said: With our cap space do we not have enough to sign say Dillon and resign Demelo? So we could go Morrisey/Demelo Pionk/Dillon Poolman/Heinola (or Niku or Sandberg) Say a depth guy like Bealiu Then move Wheeler to 2c And whose our tough SOB forward? Cause we missing one of those.
JCon Posted September 2, 2020 Report Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: And whose our tough SOB forward? Cause we missing one of those. You can pick up a trash forward anywhere to sit in the press box and impress those that still think you need an SOB on your team. Cheap and easy.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 2, 2020 Author Report Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, JCon said: You can pick up a trash forward anywhere to sit in the press box and impress those that still think you need an SOB on your team. Cheap and easy. I'm not talking goon here. CAL beat the ship out of us. I want someone who can hit like Tanev. Feel like that guy is Suess. Bad when Ehlers was our SOB in the playoffs.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 2, 2020 Author Report Posted September 2, 2020 https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/news/canadiens-acquire-goaltender-jake-allen-from-the-blues/c-318857388
JCon Posted September 2, 2020 Report Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/news/canadiens-acquire-goaltender-jake-allen-from-the-blues/c-318857388 Freeing up cap space to re-sign the captain.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 3, 2020 Author Report Posted September 3, 2020 4 hours ago, JCon said: Freeing up cap space to re-sign the captain. So like the Jets trade, they are never gonna play the goaltender they just acquired? Cause MTL don't need a backup at 4m/yr.
Noeller Posted September 3, 2020 Report Posted September 3, 2020 Random thought, but I'm loving the resurrection of Hutchinson in Colorado. I dunno how long it's gonna last but good for him. There was a time I thought he was gonna be a long term answer for the Jets....
iHeart Posted September 3, 2020 Report Posted September 3, 2020 well how many teams has Hutch been on since he left Winnipeg?
JCon Posted September 3, 2020 Report Posted September 3, 2020 10 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: So like the Jets trade, they are never gonna play the goaltender they just acquired? Cause MTL don't need a backup at 4m/yr. Yes, they do. They need someone that can take some of the load from Price.
TrueBlue4ever Posted September 3, 2020 Report Posted September 3, 2020 12 hours ago, iHeart said: well how many teams has Hutch been on since he left Winnipeg? Florida, Toronto, Colorado
JCon Posted September 4, 2020 Report Posted September 4, 2020 I know it's just the media pushing this narrative but they better not trade Laine. I hope they are not even contemplating it. Get a deal done. Mr Dee and blue_gold_84 1 1
Noeller Posted September 4, 2020 Report Posted September 4, 2020 I don't think they NEED to, but I'm not against trading Laine if they get enough return for him. I want nothing less than a stud D in return...
JCon Posted September 4, 2020 Report Posted September 4, 2020 I would trade anyone on the Jets before I would trade Laine with the exception of Scheif and his contract. Now, if Laine came out and said he wanted $12M/year and wouldn't sign for less in Winnipeg, I would trade him. Anything over $10M is an over payment at this point. blue_gold_84 1
Noeller Posted September 4, 2020 Report Posted September 4, 2020 https://www.si.com/hockey/news/five-potential-trade-fits-for-patrik-laine Which teams might make sense as trade partners for the Jets? Consider these five. 1. CAROLINA HURRICANES No credit to me for this idea. It’s been out there all week, floated by trustworthy insiders such as The Athletic’s Pierre LeBrun and TSN’s Frank Seravalli. But no team makes more sense as partners in a Laine deal. The Canes need to balance out their scoring after relying too much on their dynamite top line of Andrei Svechnikov, Sebastian Aho and Teuvo Teravainen. They’re also, bar none, the deepest team in the NHL on defense. It would make sense to dangle one of their shutdown righty D-men, such as Brett Pesce, packaged with a prototypical No. 2 center in Vincent Trocheck. Again, not my idea, so no credit to me. That would allow Winnipeg to address its two primary needs in one deal. The Canes could fill that hole up the middle by moving emerging youngster Martin Necas back to center. Plus they could reunite Laine with his gold-medal centerman from Finland's 2016 world junior squad in Aho. 2. MONTREAL CANADIENS We know GM Marc Bergevin likes to be aggressive and treat his team as a contender even if the general public believes it’s further away than he does. He may view Montreal’s play-in series win over the Pittsburgh Penguins as a sign Montreal is ready to take another step, despite the fact it was 10 points out of a playoff spot when the “real” season paused March 12. This is the same man who was willing to go all-in on Sebastian Aho with an (admittedly far too conservative) offer sheet last off-season. It thus wouldn’t be too surprising to see Montreal make a pitch for Laine, whose swagger and quotability could make him well suited to a hockey-mad market like Montreal. The Habs have an elite farm system rising up, which should deliver defenseman Alexander Romanov to the NHL next season and goal-scorer Cole Caufield within a year, and considering they want to make a push while Carey Price and Shea Weber have good years left, it could make sense to add a big-ticket scorer to a team that has lacked one for a while. We also know Montreal has a piece to build an offer around in Max Domi, who could be an ideal second-line center for Winnipeg and was born there since his father Tie was playing for the Jets at the time. The offer would never work as a one-for-one, but the Habs have so many prospects and draft picks at their disposal that they could balance the offer out in many different ways. 3. DALLAS STARS Stars GM Jim Nill has a busy off-season ahead. He has $18.54 million in cap space but needs to re-sign three crucial RFA forwards in Denis Gurianov, Roope Hintz and Radek Faksa. The Stars made it clear with the Joe Pavelski and Corey Perry signings last off-season that they’re a win-now operation, going for it since the likes of Ben Bishop, Jamie Benn and Alexander Radulov have reached their 30s. They badly need some high-end scoring, and bringing in someone with youth and upside to boot would address Dallas’ biggest need while also yanking down the average age of the forward group. Laine could fit comfortably into Dallas’ dressing room, too, considering it’s extremely Finn-friendly, including Hintz and blueliners Miro Heiskanen and Esa Lindell. Could a trade built around Laine for right-handed defenseman John Klingberg work? As is the case with Montreal, Dallas would likely have to kick in another piece. 4. CALGARY FLAMES The Flames were a potent offensive club in 2018-19, but the scoring dried up this past season and didn’t improve under new coach Geoff Ward. They’re deep on the left wing with Johnny Gaudreau, Matthew Tkachuk and Sam Bennett, but there’s a big dropoff on the right side after Elias Lindholm. Laine could jumpstart Calgary’s offense. The question is who Calgary would have to move to land him and make the money work with Laine’s $6.75-million cap hit. Is it time to move on from center Sean Monahan or consider dealing two-way pivot Mikael Backlund? Monahan has a modified no-trade clause kicking in for 2020-21, so the time to act is now. Backlund has a no-trade clause with a list of 10 teams to which he’d accept a deal. 5. NEW JERSEY DEVILS The Devils can fit almost any big-name star under their salary cap right now. Dependable right winger Kyle Palmieri enters the final season of his deal and is a decent candidate to get moved as a rental next winter if the Devils aren’t contenders, so New Jersey could use some goal-scoring help in the long term, a finisher to play with Jack Hughes. If you’re the Jets, however, do you ask for Nico Hischier as a return? He’s exactly the type of player they need, and he’s signed for seven more seasons at a cap hit just $500,000 more than Laine’s current AAV. Other potential suitors to watch: Edmonton Oilers, Colorado Avalanche, Boston Bruins, San Jose Sharks
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