Atomic Posted July 27, 2019 Report Posted July 27, 2019 They should have run Harris more. Being down 14-0 in the first quarter means nothing, it shouldn't affect the way you run your offence. Nichols had some really bad throws early and I think it made him doubt himself all night. Then the OL started to struggle, then Adams went out. It was like quicksand. wbbfan and Fred C Dobbs 1 1
Atomic Posted July 27, 2019 Report Posted July 27, 2019 10 hours ago, Goalie said: We came out down 6 0. 1st play incomplete.. 2nd play.. Pick 6. We didnt even try to establish a run game. Lol at pretending lapo adjusts in game. Game plan did not include Harris today. Agree we needed to use Harris more but to characterize the first play on offence as "incomplete" is a little misleading, that was a 2 foot shovel pass to Lucky Whitehead.... it's a pass on the stat sheet but that is essentially a run play.
BBlink Posted July 27, 2019 Report Posted July 27, 2019 Hamilton's weakness has been their run defense. What do we do? Pass the ball 48 times wbbfan, BigBlueFanatic, Fred C Dobbs and 3 others 5 1
Goalie Posted July 27, 2019 Report Posted July 27, 2019 37 minutes ago, Atomic said: Agree we needed to use Harris more but to characterize the first play on offence as "incomplete" is a little misleading, that was a 2 foot shovel pass to Lucky Whitehead.... it's a pass on the stat sheet but that is essentially a run play. True. Just kind of set the tone tho. Simple shovel pass... Incomplete Atomic 1
Fatty Liver Posted July 27, 2019 Report Posted July 27, 2019 53 minutes ago, Atomic said: Agree we needed to use Harris more but to characterize the first play on offence as "incomplete" is a little misleading, that was a 2 foot shovel pass to Lucky Whitehead.... it's a pass on the stat sheet but that is essentially a run play. Ball security has not been that great this year, there have been a number of flubbed hand-offs to Harris although not many have been lost to the other team it is a sign of poor attention to detail and a lack of concentration.
Mark H. Posted July 27, 2019 Report Posted July 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Ball security has not been that great this year, there have been a number of flubbed hand-offs to Harris although not many have been lost to the other team it is a sign of poor attention to detail and a lack of concentration. And eventually the opposition makes note of it in the film room and capitalizes.
Booch Posted July 28, 2019 Report Posted July 28, 2019 You can expect usually one dud a year..I guess this was ours. Bad game plan from the get go..regardless of behind early..it was 6 minutes into the game so that's not an excuse and to suggest we tossed our game plan. Lapo usually has a head scratcher or 2 a season like that.. I blame the ineptitude on him..and the fact Nichols was off last night..hence more reason to run the ball. Also..a healthy dose of Matthew's would have been key this game and made a huge difference.. especially when it seemed we couldn't get any receivers freed up..his stature alone out there and his presence/experience would have been huge...for all Lucky's good things for now he should be a 70 per cent of reps guy..rotated in for all the imports so teams cant just key on him when he is in always in same set or scheme. He's being swarmed now and without Matthew's presence out there as a mid range and vertical threat it's making things congested and tough If next game Matthew's isnt in for Walker then our coaches need a smack upside the head. Mark F, JBombers, blueingreenland and 1 other 4
do or die Posted July 28, 2019 Report Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) Just pulled in from Fargo: There are turnovers, where the D makes a good play, and simply dumb turnovers, when you just cough it up. Bombers way too many, of the latter. For the first time, Bombers were real slow out of the gate, on both sides of the ball, this almost seemed to throw them off kilter, rest of nite..... ...throwing the ball, almost 50 times, against a team that struggles against the run. Add bad overthrows, by Nichols, receivers struggling to get open, then dropping like flies Against a good team, coming off bye at home....needed the A game.....didn't come close. Well deserved loss.... Edited July 28, 2019 by do or die Piggy 1, bearpants and rebusrankin 2 1
Noeller Posted July 28, 2019 Report Posted July 28, 2019 https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/07/27/upon-review-wpg-15-ham-23/ NICHOLS DIDN’T MINCE WORDS… when he met with the media following the game, immediately accepting the blame for his poorest game since last year’s Banjo Bowl. He entered the game with an active streak of 19 straight completions, but had that snapped on the first pass attempt when a shovel to Lucky Whitehead was dropped. His next attempt was intercepted and returned to the one-yard line, helping give Hamilton a 14-0 just seven minutes into the game. “For whatever reason, on two of the plays (interceptions) the ball kinda came out of the side of my hand,” Nichols explained. “I had open guys and was on the right read, but the ball came off the side of my hand twice and went 10 yards over where I was trying to throw it. It doesn’t ever happen in like one in a thousand throws, but it happened twice tonight. It’s brutal, but that’s the way this position goes. And that first one was the difference in the game score-wise, momentum-wise, everything. I had a guy open on a curl route and the ball just floated out of the side of my hand. It’s unfortunate.” “I’ve been on a lot of really good football teams and a lot of the best teams I’ve been on, sometimes a loss like this isn’t the worst thing to bring the realization that you’re not just going to go out and beat everyone by 30 points,” Nichols added. “This will be a great learning experience for everyone, including myself, that we need to play better football to win football games.” Rod Black, blue_gold_84 and MOBomberFan 3
Tracker Posted July 28, 2019 Report Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Noeller said: https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/07/27/upon-review-wpg-15-ham-23/ NICHOLS DIDN’T MINCE WORDS… when he met with the media following the game, immediately accepting the blame for his poorest game since last year’s Banjo Bowl. He entered the game with an active streak of 19 straight completions, but had that snapped on the first pass attempt when a shovel to Lucky Whitehead was dropped. His next attempt was intercepted and returned to the one-yard line, helping give Hamilton a 14-0 just seven minutes into the game. “For whatever reason, on two of the plays (interceptions) the ball kinda came out of the side of my hand,” Nichols explained. “I had open guys and was on the right read, but the ball came off the side of my hand twice and went 10 yards over where I was trying to throw it. It doesn’t ever happen in like one in a thousand throws, but it happened twice tonight. It’s brutal, but that’s the way this position goes. And that first one was the difference in the game score-wise, momentum-wise, everything. I had a guy open on a curl route and the ball just floated out of the side of my hand. It’s unfortunate.” “I’ve been on a lot of really good football teams and a lot of the best teams I’ve been on, sometimes a loss like this isn’t the worst thing to bring the realization that you’re not just going to go out and beat everyone by 30 points,” Nichols added. “This will be a great learning experience for everyone, including myself, that we need to play better football to win football games.” Yes, "we" need to play a helluva lot better to beat good teams.
NorthernSkunk Posted July 28, 2019 Report Posted July 28, 2019 I think he has overthrown a ball more than one in a thousand....
Mark H. Posted July 28, 2019 Report Posted July 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said: I think he has overthrown a ball more than one in a thousand.... Not what he meant - stop being obtuse. Rod Black, blue_gold_84 and Noeller 2 1
NorthernSkunk Posted July 28, 2019 Report Posted July 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mark H. said: Not what he meant - stop being obtuse. Whatever....it is becoming a concern. Noeller and blue_gold_84 2
wbbfan Posted July 28, 2019 Author Report Posted July 28, 2019 It isn't typical of nichols to over throw deep balls. He has tended to miss Short and forced wrs to come back to the ball. Throwing the ball high / behind on medium passes is a typical sign of when he is struggling. When struggling he often winds up before his throw slowing down his release. Nichols saw lots of pressure and other then check downs the pass game struggled. We should have had better game planning before the game for that pressure. And adjustments. Nichols and this offense have the tools to beat pressure but didn't. Out side of Harris and run blocking our entire offense has to be better. And I'm sure it will be. Noeller and kelownabomberfan 2
Tracker Posted July 28, 2019 Report Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Mark H. said: Not what he meant - stop being obtuse. He's a triangle? NorthernSkunk 1
WBBFanWest Posted July 28, 2019 Report Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Tracker said: He's a triangle? I find him more acute than obtuse.
NorthernSkunk Posted July 28, 2019 Report Posted July 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, WBBFanWest said: I find him more acute than obtuse. The ladies do tell me I have nice eyes ..... 😜
Tracker Posted July 28, 2019 Report Posted July 28, 2019 My doctor told me that once he told an older lady that she had "acute angina" after her physical and she blushed and then thanked him for the compliment. GCJenks, NorthernSkunk and kelownabomberfan 1 2
kelownabomberfan Posted July 29, 2019 Report Posted July 29, 2019 17 hours ago, Tracker said: Maybe he is actually right. Right as Pythagoras!
kelownabomberfan Posted July 29, 2019 Report Posted July 29, 2019 19 hours ago, wbbfan said: It isn't typical of nichols to over throw deep balls. He has tended to miss Short and forced wrs to come back to the ball. Throwing the ball high / behind on medium passes is a typical sign of when he is struggling. When struggling he often winds up before his throw slowing down his release. Nichols saw lots of pressure and other then check downs the pass game struggled. We should have had better game planning before the game for that pressure. And adjustments. Nichols and this offense have the tools to beat pressure but didn't. Out side of Harris and run blocking our entire offense has to be better. And I'm sure it will be. Any idea why we couldn't throw Streveler in when happy feet Nichols gets into a funk? Or is this just too 1980's CFL? BomberBall 1
Dr Zaius Posted July 29, 2019 Report Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) I'm not a Nichols fan, but it's nice to see him placing the blame on himself. In years past he finger pointed and whined and blamed everyone else when things were his fault. Could be a sign of maturity as a starter. Eat it, move on. Edited July 29, 2019 by Dr Zaius Bubba Zanetti and JBombers 2
Tracker Posted July 29, 2019 Report Posted July 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: Any idea why we couldn't throw Streveler in when happy feet Nichols gets into a funk? Or is this just too 1980's CFL? Because that is not the way that O'Shea rolls. wbbfan 1
Brandon Posted July 29, 2019 Report Posted July 29, 2019 1 hour ago, kelownabomberfan said: Any idea why we couldn't throw Streveler in when happy feet Nichols gets into a funk? Or is this just too 1980's CFL? On the radio this morning Bauming suggested that they left him in to give Nichols a chance to show that when the team needs him that he can pull through with a game winning drive at the end of the game. It made me think of all the times that Calvillo (or any of the other greats) would march down the field and take control of the offense and pull through at the end of the game. It would be nice to know that Nichols can do this more often then not.
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