Bubba Zanetti Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 Wow. F****** brutal. Perfect way to de-rail an amazing season.
Booch Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 AS someone who has first hand knowledge of this from my past...as have used..and saw back when teams actually encouraged and administered to you if you wanted and it so I have to side with Andrew for a few reasons Teams gave a very thorough tutorial so to speak on what each drugs duration in your system was and where it would show test wise..blood..urine and the drugs half life. Also from testing protocol when urine and blood test are administered...and came back clean like they did then the athlete wasn't using...the only other thing that could be done above and beyond that to go one step further is fat samples as it lingers there...but that is never done ...and then a subsequent urine test 10 days later came back with minimal traces of it showing??...makes no sense and has to be some type of contamination or a bad test....even with an oral steroid taken immediately after his first test..the weakest of the weak would show large amounts in system for at least 14 days...undeniable amounts Also the drug he is apparently accused of is pretty much impossible to get now...more or less discontinued other than from black market suppliers...And I have never heard of a professional athlete going that route to get a drug...basically not made from a legit producer...way to many risks in that. Thats also why we got an extensive list of supplement companies as well where their "proprietary" blends of ingredients didn't actually say what amount of what was in it..or even if all ingredients are even listed..also as odd as it may seem that industry isn't even regulated, and companies can put whatever they want in their stuff without any recourse, or inspection and things are only pulled off shelves or investigated after reports of questionable things....sadly a lot of time that is deaths or serious health issues WildPath, Bigblue204, Floyd and 12 others 5 8 2
MOBomberFan Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 bearpants, Rod Black, Noeller and 4 others 3 2 2
Bigblue204 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 I can already hear those keyboard warrior rider "fans" going on about cheaters when they're crying about their season being over in early November.
Booch Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, Goalie said: Im not. I just read all the statements and how many times hes been tested and the fact he was tested 10 days prior. To me, this is def something he didnt knowingly take. Besides this test was done July 12th.. Over a month ago. Hell 6 weeks ago. Results just out now? Harris is a stand up guy.. Straight shooter. U don't have to believe him but i will. actually...companies do ...been many instances of things that are banned...sells the product and if you read my other post..things arn't regulated... Noeller and Mark F 1 1
Booch Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, wpgallday1960 said: I agree. Steroids don’t randomly contaminate legit supplements. I am beyond pissed at him. Until proven otherwise I’m blaming Harris for this situation. happens all the time...trust me Mark F and Noeller 1 1
trueBlue83 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, JCon said: What would you appeal? Can't really appeal the test results and the suspension is pretty standard.
17to85 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: I can already hear those keyboard warrior rider "fans" going on about cheaters when they're crying about their season being over in early November. Yeah but **** them, they got at least one guy on their roster been busted too. Bigblue204 1
WBBFanWest Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, Booch said: happens all the time...trust me If this is the case, then the only way to deal with this is to have all supplements supplied through the team, with samples kept for testing. It would seem to me that if contamination is a thing, then any athlete wanting to use supplements would be putting himself/herself in jeopardy trying to manage this themselves.
Captain Blue Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 I wouldn't believe his excuse if any other player said it, so I don't believe Harris. Sucks for the Bombers, especially going into Labour Day. Lot more pressure on Streveler and that Sunday match up looks pretty bleak. Harris deserves his suspension.
Dr Zaius Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Atomic said: Oops we put dbol in the protein powder again Exactly. So many homers here. Take off the goggles ffs
Goalie Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 Im guessing that test on july 2nd came back positive then.
Nickthesizz Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 in b4 Santiago puts up 150 on the riders next week. Atomic 1
Geebrr Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Booch said: actually...companies do ...been many instances of things that are banned...sells the product and if you read my other post..things arn't regulated... Saying cross contamination doesn't happen is silly. It does. Microdosing is also a thing, so the levels mean less to me. He should be having whatever supplement he claims to have taken tested, but I doubt he has the money to pursue the supplier even if he did take it by accident. Not a good look for a 32 year old RB Noeller 1
Dr Zaius Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) Delete Edited August 26, 2019 by Dr Zaius
Bigblue204 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 I think he likely knew, but it doesn't bother me in the least. That's professional...well anything really...the winners do whatever they can to get an edge, often times on the very edge or completely over the edge of the rules. He'll come back fired up. Lets see what the backups have!! Mark F 1
Bigblue204 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nickthesizz said: in b4 Santiago puts up 150 on the riders next week. too late...see my Augustine post.
Goalie Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Geebrr said: Saying cross contamination doesn't happen is silly. It does. Microdosing is also a thing, so the levels mean less to me. He should be having whatever supplement he claims to have taken tested, but I doubt he has the money to pursue the supplier even if he did take it by accident. Not a good look for a 32 year old RB Hes been tested 8 times as a bomber.
Geebrr Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, Goalie said: Hes been tested 8 times as a bomber. Ok?
trueBlue83 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 how many times have we heard the play by play guys this year say things like 'Harris just seem to be getting better with age', when RARELY does that ever happen in high performance sports....so... not totally shocking. My worry is that he's got 2-3 more tests after this that could come back with the same result. That would net him at the very least, with a second failed test, a 9 game suspension essentially ending his season! We have to hope that this is somehow a mistake..... better start combing the NFL roster cuts for a running back!
Goalie Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Geebrr said: Ok? So your not a good look comment is kind of douchey
M.O.A.B. Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Goalie said: Hes been tested 8 times as a bomber. and all came up clean
Geebrr Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Goalie said: So your not a good look comment is kind of douchey The **** are you talking about? You don't get time served if you get popped😄 Fact: it doesn't matter how many times you tested clean when you then test positive It's not a good look, but I'm not condemning the guy. TBURGESS, Mike, Dr Zaius and 2 others 4 1
sweep the leg Posted August 26, 2019 Report Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Goalie said: Hes been tested 8 times as a bomber. Maybe he took the wrong dose of his masking agents this time? I suppose tainted supplements are a possibility, but I definitely wouldn't give a non-Bomber the benefit of the doubt. deepsixemtoboyd and Mike 1 1
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