World Politics

[Fatty Liver]

This document is extremely delusional, they can't even make up a logical premise for the attacks.

Edited March 1, 2022 by Fatty Liver

[bustamente]

Maybe Russian might want to denazify Canada next and we should just roll over and let him because the small scary man will play his card of using Nukes 

[JCon]

6 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

This document is extremely delusional, they can't even make up a logical premise for the attacks.

FAFO. 

Always projecting. 

[do or die]

10 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

This document is extremely delusional, they can't even make up a logical premise for the attacks.

The falsehoods in that statement start with the letter T.....and end with II.

[Mark F]

25 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

This document is extremely delusional, they can't even make up a logical premise for the attacks.

That is TOP LEVEL WORK by the crackerjack staff at the Russian embassy!! So beautifully phrased, so pithy!

Canadians..... sly is the word for us!

can not be trusted, ever!

Lol.. they are .. dolts

 

Edited March 1, 2022 by Mark F

[blue_gold_84]

28 minutes ago, bluto said:

Frankly this entire pose the UN types took mystifies me.

They're communicating that they aren't willing to listen to a single word that Russia has to say. 

Do they not imagine that Russia will have this in mind the next time they plan unilateral action? Do they imagine that there will be no further ones?

If NATO/US/EU isn't going to do jack-**** about it (they won't), and they're already being sanctioned-worse-than-any-country-ever, why wouldn't they just go on as they mean to?

Read up on what Lavrov said in his boorish tirade brimming with bullshit. Then you'll understand why the UNHRC walked out.

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, bluto said:

So the Russian Generals and Commanders aren't stupid, it's just that a Dictator they must follow is?

I'm not trying to tell anyone that they may be being lied to... but I have to ask: Is blowing up bridges, distributing weapons to civilians and releasing felons the actions of a Nation that is on the front foot here?

There is so much here that I do not agree with that I do not know where to begin.

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.iea.org/news/iea-member-countries-to-make-60-million-barrels-of-oil-available-following-russia-s-invasion-of-ukraine

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The 31 Member Countries of the Governing Board of the International Energy Agency agreed to release 60 million barrels of oil from their emergency reserves to send a unified and strong message to global oil markets that there will be no shortfall in supplies as a result of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Today’s Extraordinary Governing Board meeting, held at the Ministerial level, was chaired by US Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm in her capacity as Chair of this year’s IEA Ministerial Meeting. 

During today’s meeting, Ministers expressed solidarity with the people of Ukraine and their democratically elected government in the face of Russia’s appalling and unprovoked violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

The IEA Ministers noted with concern the energy security impacts of the egregious actions by Russia, and voiced support for sanctions imposed by the international community in response.

The Ministers noted that Russia’s invasion comes against a backdrop of already tight global oil markets, heightened price volatility, commercial inventories that are at their lowest level since 2014, and a limited ability of producers to provide additional supply in the short term.

“It is heartening to see how quickly the global community has united to condemn Russia’s actions and respond decisively,” said IEA Executive Director Fatih Birol. “I am pleased that the IEA has also come together today to take action. The situation in energy markets is very serious and demands our full attention. Global energy security is under threat, putting the world economy at risk during a fragile stage of the recovery.”

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

51 minutes ago, JCon said:

Yes, I have heard the same. You don't see him interact with anyone. He keeps his distance. I have no doubt that he is paranoid about Covid and a lot of other things. 

I speculate that he had cancer treatment and is immunocompromised.

[JCon]

No, no, let's hear from poor, misunderstood Putin. 

F**k right off and back to your hole!

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[blue_gold_84]

https://theconversation.com/how-vladimir-putins-security-obsession-has-eroded-russian-living-standards-178006

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Russian dramatist Anton Chekhov famously advised young playwrights that “if in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired.”

For the past 20 years, Vladimir Putin — a deeply paranoid megalomaniac who has by now completely isolated himself from his own people, to say nothing of the world as a whole — has been progressively diverting Russia’s considerable wealth towards the construction of an all-encompassing security state.

Ever since the 2004 Beslan school massacre that provided the initial pretext for this redirection, the Russian president has been hanging pistols on the walls to the exclusion of any other national project. The massacre was an Islamist, mainly Ingush and Chechen terrorist attack that resulted in the deaths of 333 people, 186 of them children.

This narrow channelling of the country’s resources into security services has brought about a steady decline in living standards for ordinary citizens. Most of them aren’t fortunate enough to be employed in government ministries such as the MVD (Internal Affairs, which includes FBI-like functions), the security forces (the infamously unaccountable siloviki, including the Federal Security Service known as the FSB), the military, the police or connected to oligarch-run business networks with ties to Putin.

Ordinary Russians had no say in the decision to launch an invasion of Ukraine, which was the longstanding personal obsession of a president most Russians don’t support but aren’t free to oppose.

Teenage conscripts, told they were being sent to participate in “exercises,” have reportedly been shocked to find themselves on the front lines of a war facing people they never considered their enemy.

As our leaders wring their hands and bemoan the Ukrainians’ fate, they should also take a good look at their own roles in enabling Putin and his circle to build up the war machine that has only too naturally unleashed itself on the nearest and most convenient victim.

[johnzo]

2 hours ago, bluto said:

Frankly this entire pose the UN types took mystifies me.

They're communicating that they aren't willing to listen to a single word that Russia has to say. 

Do they not imagine that Russia will have this in mind the next time they plan unilateral action? Do they imagine that there will be no further ones?

If NATO/US/EU isn't going to do jack-**** about it (they won't), and they're already being sanctioned-worse-than-any-country-ever, why wouldn't they just go on as they mean to?

They are going to go on as they mean to, regardless of anything that happens at the UN.

Why listen to them?  What words could Russia offer that would justify their aggression, justify the Warsaw-style siege they're staging around Kyiv, the one that's going to be a ******* humanitarian catastrophe?

**** them.  they are speaking with guns.  It seems extremely unlikely they will speak consequentially with their voices.

never believe words, believe actions.

Edited March 1, 2022 by johnzo

[Goalie]

3 hours ago, JCon said:

No, no, let's hear from poor, misunderstood Putin. 

F**k right off and back to your hole!

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They call it the Republican handbook now 

4 hours ago, bigg jay said:

100% and as an added measure of security, he added a couple of buttons, just in case.

I gave you an lol cuz that putin pic totally gave me Mr burns vibes 

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.axios.com/zelensky-assassination-plot-foiled-7bea049b-2308-4801-b75a-93104c17b82b.html

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Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council chief Oleksiy Danilov announced during a briefing Tuesday that Ukrainian forces had foiled an assassination plot against President Volodymyr Zelensky, according to a Telegram post from Ukrainian authorities.

Why it matters: Zelensky has said since the start of Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine that he would be a prime target for assassination. Last Thursday, he warned that Russian "sabotage groups" had entered Kyiv and were hunting for him and his family.

The big picture: According to the Telegram message, Danilov said that a unit of elite Chechen special forces, known as Kadyrovites, had been behind the plot and had subsequently been "eliminated."

https://www.reuters.com/world/german-warplanes-patrolling-skies-over-poland-air-force-says-2022-03-01/

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BERLIN, March 1 (Reuters) - German warplanes are flying armed air patrols in the skies over Poland, the German air force said on Tuesday.

"Safeguarding the skies over Poland," the air force said on Twitter, above a picture of a starting fighter jet, without giving details.

Some of these headlines... Unbelievable.

[SpeedFlex27]

6 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-threatens-france-real-war-economic-collapse-medvedev-lemaire-2022-3

More embarrassing rhetoric from Russian "leadership."

Seems like a pretty ill-prepared and short-sighted invasion thus far.

There will be more than a few Russian Generals who'll never be seen again.

[iHeart]

Either he faces a Judge in the Hague, or he faces Satan in Hell

 

[bustamente]

Fox personalities should just wear I LOVE PUTIN buttons on air 

 

[17to85]

22 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Fox personalities should just wear I LOVE PUTIN buttons on air 

 

Cancelling a country that is invading another country at the moment unprovoked? Sounds good to me! GOP probably worried their money is going to dry up. 

[SpeedFlex27]

15 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Cancelling a country that is invading another country at the moment unprovoked? Sounds good to me! GOP probably worried their money is going to dry up. 

One more reason to not vote Conservative ever again. 

[17to85]

8 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

One more reason to not vote Conservative ever again. 

Sickens me how tied to the Republicans assholes down south some of the current conservatives in Canada are. Rotten to the core. 

[blue_gold_84]

8 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Sickens me how tied to the Republicans assholes down south some of the current conservatives in Canada are. Rotten to the core. 

Ignorant, poorly educated human garbage bamboozled by massive, lengthy campaigns of disinformation and misinformation on social media by - to absolutely nobody's surprise - Russian interests hell bent on shaking the foundations of western democracy. Outrage machines like Faux News remain at the forefront of peddling that trash, while platforms like FB and Twitter do next to nothing to slow the spread of that volatility as it continues to poison morons.

Imagine being so misguided, so utterly misinformed to think Russia is somehow the victim here, after its leadership group of greedy oligarchs opted to invade a sovereign nation, terrorize its citizens, destroy its infrastructure, and basically turn it into the puppet state it was barely a decade ago: https://fortune.com/2022/03/02/viktor-yanukovych-yanukovich-putin-put-back-in-power-ukraine-russia/

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Russian president Vladimir Putin is preparing to place former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych back in power if his forces succeed in taking Kyiv and removing the country's current democratically elected leadership, a Ukrainian news site has reported.

Ukrayinska Pravda, an independent online publication, cited a Ukrainian intelligence official as saying that Yanukovych, who has been living in exile in Russia since fleeing Ukraine in 2014, is currently in Belarus, waiting for Russian troops to take Kyiv and Putin to declare him the country's new president.

[Mark F]

very Good article about German sea change due to putinvasion

"Each one of these decisions represents something of an earthquake. Taken together, they are a political cataclysm that no one saw coming—not from a novice chancellor known for his caution, not from a coalition of German parties with pacifist roots, and certainly not from a government led by the Social Democrats, with their history of close ties to Russia."

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/03/germany-putin-ukraine-invasion/623322/

Edited March 2, 2022 by Mark F

[Tracker]

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[the watcher]

11 hours ago, bustamente said:

Fox personalities should just wear I LOVE PUTIN buttons on air 

 

In my mind there are 2 choices : 

1- A full on choking off of Russia financially and in  trade.  A shunning of them in any other way ( sports, culture.... ) Or as was said " Canceling them " ( I actually like that term in this instance )

or 2- NATO joins the fight. That could engulf the entire Eastern part of Europe....or more. The risk of nuclear war would probably be at its highest since the Cuban missile crisis.

Hmmmm, let's see.....Maybe " Canceling Russia " is an awesome f**king plan.

[do or die]

Looking at this invasion from a nuts and bolts perspective......

Successful military action, these days.... requires good intelligence and a co-ordinated approach with air, mechanized, and infantry assets, good lines of communication, and a strong logistical tail (food, ammo, fuel, etc) 
The Russians have a huge advantage over Ukraine in terms of numbers of forces and equipment, but their offensive has shown a striking lack of cohesion. 
Massive convoys have run out of fuel and Russian tanks and trucks have broken down along Ukrainian highways, creating traffic jams of sitting ducks.   The infantry has not been fully utilized to protect these columns,  these convoys firing off missiles and rockets seem to take up the bulk of their activity.
More and more stories are coming out about the infantry, with a lot of these 18-19 year old conscripts, who are facing veteran Ukrainian units (border fighting), without motivation, direction and supports (shades of Afghanistan), with predictable effects on their morale.  There are even (unconfirmed) reports of some units handing over their weapons to the Ukrainians, and being allowed to just walk away
Russian air power has been mysteriously inert, so far, Ukrainian air defences have not been suppressed, yet  (huge surprise) 
Their vaunted electronic warfare asserts, have not been in evidence, either - Ukrainian Internet is still up, and communication links in-country and beyond seem to be still intact.
Russians are losing the propaganda war, bigly.....those videos of confused and despondent Russian prisoners are a absolute ten strike in that regard.  Overall, Putin's attempts to discredit Zelensky and NATO unity, have backfired in a spectacular manner.

One gets the feeling that Putin ordered this invasion, somewhat off the cuff, blindsiding some of his generals, and certainly a lot of his troops.  He was expecting a quick victory, while other countries talked about what they might do - the quick closing of ranks with NATO and the rapid response with the sanctions, etc...has come as another nasty surprise.  This offensive is costing Russia around 10-15 Billion per day, to go along with the tanking of the stock markets and rouble

Sure, the Russians have the military muscle to smash through, and take Kiev, and perhaps put a sock puppet in there and call him President.   But to what end?  Insurgent warfare with 40M Ukrainians?  A uber larger version of Afghanistan?