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[blue_gold_84]

 

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4 hours ago, Mark F said:

awful, abominable worst of human nature running rampant.

I loathe the man.

why is it that everywhere you look, the worst people have the power?

Putin has shown himself to be the worst sort of human- Adolph Hitler with nuclear weapons.

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/japan-shinzo-abe-hospital-1.6514308

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Japanese former prime minister Shinzo Abe was shot on Friday while campaigning in the city of Nara, a government spokesman said, with public broadcaster NHK saying he appeared to have been shot from behind by a man with a shotgun.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Hirokazu Matsuno said he did not know Abe's condition. Kyodo news agency and NHK said Abe, 67, appeared to be in a state of cardiac arrest when taken to hospital.

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8 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/japan-shinzo-abe-hospital-1.6514308

Abe has been declared dead. 

[JCon]

Sound on.

 

[Fatty Liver]

12 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/japan-shinzo-abe-hospital-1.6514308

This caught my eye, incredible statistic. 

With a population of 125 million, the country had only 10 gun-related criminal cases last year, resulting in one death and four injuries, according to police. Eight of those cases were gang-related. Tokyo had no gun incidents, injuries or deaths in the same year, although 61 guns were seized.

Guns are simply not allowed, what could possibly be the downside, just for the sake of argument?

[blue_gold_84]

2 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

This caught my eye, incredible statistic. 

With a population of 125 million, the country had only 10 gun-related criminal cases last year, resulting in one death and four injuries, according to police. Eight of those cases were gang-related. Tokyo had no gun incidents, injuries or deaths in the same year, although 61 guns were seized.

Guns are simply not allowed, what could possibly be the downside, just for the sake of argument?

Zero downside. Japan is one of the safest countries on the planet and its firearm laws no doubt play a major role in that.

This is the first assassination with a firearm of a political figure in over 60 years in Japan, so this incident is going have ramifications - good and bad. I expect security at future campaign events will be ramped up (good) and I imagine Abe's death will widen division between political ideologues there (bad).

Edited July 8, 2022 by blue_gold_84

[WildPath]

10 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Guns are simply not allowed, what could possibly be the downside, just for the sake of argument?

If you're talking about this happening in Canada/US there are quite a few differences between the countries why I think no guns shouldn't happen here. The biggest is that a much larger percentage of people use firearms to obtain food in Can/US. That being said, I'm still in favour of stronger gun laws and think gun culture is nuts.

[Fatty Liver]

3 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Zero downside. Japan is one of the safest countries on the planet and its firearm laws no doubt play a major role in that.

This is the first assassination of a political figure in over 60 years in Japan, so this incident is going have ramifications - good and bad. I expect security at future campaign events will be ramped up (good) and I imagine Abe's death will widen division between political ideologues there (bad).

Ironically during his time as PM, Abe tried un-successively to get approval to re-write Japan's pacifist constitution and allow for more normal military buildup.  Which probably would have led to a diminishment of their gun laws, as they seem to go hand in hand.

[Fatty Liver]

5 minutes ago, WildPath said:

If you're talking about this happening in Canada/US there are quite a few differences between the countries why I think no guns shouldn't happen here. The biggest is that a much larger percentage of people use firearms to obtain food in Can/US. That being said, I'm still in favour of stronger gun laws and think gun culture is nuts.

My guess is 99.9% of the people hunting for food are doing it for "fun", and economic benefit, and are not all that familiar with hunger.  The gun nutz are the people who scream about needing multiple guns for protection.

[blue_gold_84]

16 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Ironically during his time as PM, Abe tried un-successively to get approval to re-write Japan's pacifist constitution and allow for more normal military buildup.  Which probably would have led to a diminishment of their gun laws, as they seem to go hand in hand.

I have to disagree. During his time as PM, Abe sought to revise a part of Japan's constitution to give the JSDF more of an ability to assist its military allies if they were attacked. However, that never materialized as Abe stepped down in 2020 due to health concerns.

I don't think firearm laws were ever on the table with him as PM. The separation between military and civilian life is quite pronounced based on Japan's pacifist stance written into its Constitution after WWII and revising firearm laws or repealing them in a country that prides itself on social cohesion and safety would be a bad look for any politician. 

Edited July 8, 2022 by blue_gold_84

[WildPath]

2 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

My guess is 99.9% of the people hunting for food are doing it for "fun", and economic benefit, and are not all that familiar with hunger.  The gun nutz are the people who scream about needing multiple guns for protection.

I don't think it matters whether it is out of starvation or not. If you're referring to economic benefit for being able to sell what you kill, that is definitely not allowed, but maybe you're referring to saving money buying meat. Hunting often isn't cheap either.

I've only hunted for food and I don't know anyone who does it purely for fun. Maybe there's a selection bias there. I also think hunting for food is usually more ethical than buying food from grocery stores.

[HardCoreBlue]

21 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

 

That’s a fantastic last line to end the video.

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4 hours ago, WildPath said:

I don't think it matters whether it is out of starvation or not. If you're referring to economic benefit for being able to sell what you kill, that is definitely not allowed, but maybe you're referring to saving money buying meat. Hunting often isn't cheap either.

I've only hunted for food and I don't know anyone who does it purely for fun. Maybe there's a selection bias there. I also think hunting for food is usually more ethical than buying food from grocery stores.

Well....I often have to hunt for food in the supermarkets. They keep moving the displays.

[the watcher]

18 hours ago, WildPath said:

If you're talking about this happening in Canada/US there are quite a few differences between the countries why I think no guns shouldn't happen here. The biggest is that a much larger percentage of people use firearms to obtain food in Can/US. That being said, I'm still in favour of stronger gun laws and think gun culture is nuts.

The figure I keep hearing is that 8 or 9 out of 10 guns used for criminal activity are illegal guns from across the border. Even an outright ban on guns in Canada would have little effect on that. Don't forget we have some pretty strong gun laws  right now in this country. How well they are enforced is another story. I guess my question is what issue are you trying to fix? 

Edit: Just to be be clear I have no problem with practical, effective gun laws . 

 

Edited July 9, 2022 by the watcher

[the watcher]

Some of our current restictions on firearms in Canada as far as I can recall : 

Right off the bat you need a PAL certificate which is a possesion and acquisition licence . It is illegal to own, borrow ,use, sell , store, have in your possession a firearm without one. To obtain one you do it through the RCMP. They do a background check for criminal activity, they can check with ex wives and partners, .....and deny you the privilege of owning a firearm. ( note my wording there )

To go hunting you need a hunter Saftey certificate which requires you to  complete a course.

All guns must be locked up separate from the ammunition with the exception of one gun for people with certain occupations.

Semi automatic hunting rifles are allowed but there is a limit on magazine capacity. 

Some semi automatic weapons are out right banned. ( military style, easily converted .....)

All long guns have a limit on how short the barrel can be. 18.5 inches but I could be wrong on that figure.

Hand guns are extremely restricted. It's a special permit again through the RCMP.  The only way they can leave your property is with a transport permit that allows you to go to and from a pistol club or shoot. Straight there, straight back, no stopping.

Those are just a few of the rules. I'm still a gun owner but no longer deep into it. I'm not all that up on more current restrictions but they won't be less restrictive than what I've mentioned. I just thought I'd list a few because some may not know about our laws. 

 

[Mark F]

shinzo abe grandfather (kishi) was head of Japanese colony in china in the thirties, in Manchuria.

wikipedia

"Starting in 1938 and continuing to 1945, about one million Chinese were taken every year to work as slaves in Manchukuo. The harsh conditions of Manchukuo were well illustrated by the Fushun coal mine, which at any given moment had about 40,000 men working as miners, of whom about 25,000 had to be replaced every year as their predecessors had died due to poor working conditions and low living standards.

(friends with) yakuzagangsters. The presence of the latter was due to Kishi's involvement with the opium trade; the Manchukuo State Opium Monopoly needed distributors to move its products around the world, which in turn required contacts with the underworld in the form of the yakuza.Additionally, Kishi used yakuza thugs to terrorize the Chinese workers in Manchukuo's factories into submission"

americans selected him post ww2 to put down socialists in japan, according to wiki.

Americans really have never had a problem with drug trafficking, as long as its done the right way.

 

Edited July 9, 2022 by Mark F

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Russia Says It’s Losing Because Ukraine Has Experimental Mutant Troops Created in Secret Biolabs

Nearly five months into its senseless war against Ukraine, Russia has concocted a wild new explanation for why the Kremlin’s plans for a quick takeover fell apart so spectacularly—because Ukrainian troops were turned into superhuman killing machines during “secret experiments” in American-run biolabs, of course.

Never mind the myriad reports of Russian troops refusing to fight by the thousands, sabotaging their own shoddy equipment and even deliberately wounding themselves to abandon the war, Russian lawmakers claim the real setback for Moscow was “drugged up” Ukrainian soldiers.

That claim was made Monday by two Russian lawmakers heading up a commission to investigate “biolaboratories” in Ukraine, Kommersant reported.

Konstantin Kosachev, the deputy speaker of Russia’s Federation Council, and Irina Yarovaya, deputy chair of the State Duma, touted what they described as bombshell findings from the “investigation.”

Testing of Ukrainian POWs’ blood, they claimed, uncovered “a range of diseases” that suggest they were secretly experimented on “for military purposes.”

“And we see: the cruelty and barbarity with which the military personnel of Ukraine behave, the crimes that they commit against the civilian population, those monstrous crimes that they commit against prisoners of war, confirm that this system for the control and creation of a cruel murder machine was implemented under the management of the United States,” Yarovaya was quoted telling reporters.

“And those performance enhancing drugs that they are still given in order to completely neutralize the last traces of human consciousness and turn them into the most cruel and deadly monsters also confirm this,” she claimed.

Bizarrely, she also claimed that the presence of Hepatitis A antibodies in Ukrainian prisoners’ blood was proof of an American biolabs conspiracy, since a former health minister for Ukraine was a dual Ukrainian-American citizen who had worked to acquire drugs for the treatment of hepatitis in the country.

“It is quite possible that this was about testing these drugs on military personnel,” Yarovaya said.

The claims appeared to be a new take on the biolabs conspiracy theory that Russia’s Defense Ministry has routinely rolled out to try and justify the war.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia-says-its-losing-because-ukraine-has-experimental-mutant-troops-created-in-secret-biolabss?ref=home

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-invasion-ukraine-day-146-1.6525464

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Russia is laying the groundwork for the annexation of Ukrainian territory and is installing illegitimate proxy officials in areas there under its control, the White House said on Tuesday.

Unveiling what he said was U.S. intelligence, John Kirby, the chief national security council spokesperson, told a White House news briefing that the Russians are preparing to install proxy officials, establish the ruble as the default currency and force residents to apply for citizenship.

Russia is also attempting to take control of broadcasting towers, he said.

At the same time, Kirby said, the United States in the next few days will announce a new weapons package for Ukraine as it engages Russia in fierce battles in Eastern Ukraine.

It will be the 16th such drawdown of money approved by Congress and allocated under presidential authority, he said.

The package is expected to include U.S. mobile rocket launchers, known as HIMARS and rounds for Multiple Launch Rocket Systems as well as artillery munitions, sources said.

[Mark F]

6 hours ago, Tracker said:

Biolabs

one of the go to lies used by war mongers to trick the dummies in any country, when faking up an excuse for invasion.

not both siding here, but Rumsfeld (may he he dwell in pain)  said there were mobile bio and chemical weapons labs in iraq.

complete horseshit of course. 

 

excellent movie, was on netflix  "Spectral"  great cgi, and actually kind of frightening

 

"Civil Unrest in the European country of Moldova has US forces engaging the insurgents however there is a new threat who has decided both are their enemy. This new threat resides in an alternative spectrum that makes them invisible to the naked eye and instant death to anyone confronting them. Locals believe they are Spirits of War but others believe they are superior arms technology fabricated by the Moldova government."

those moldovans..... always up to something!

 

Edited July 19, 2022 by Mark F

[Tracker]

The British media is now reporting that Putin will declare the war won and annex the parts of Ukraine they have seized as integral parts of Russia now and all residents will be Russian citizens immediately. He and his advisors have realized that they are in danger of being pushed right back to previous borders and perhaps even lose Crimea, so to avoid the appearance of loss (confirmation, really) this is the only way he can save face and claim a sort of victory. That would allow him to rebuild his military and prepare for the next invasion. The weapons that Europe and other allies provided to Ukraine have now begun to be widely used with devastating effect on the Russian forces, so any sort of real victory is beyond Putin's grasp now.

Edited July 19, 2022 by Tracker

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/sergei-lavrov-russia-ukraine-donbas-1.6526026

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Wednesday that the geographical objectives of Moscow's "special military operation" in Ukraine are no longer limited to the eastern Donbas region but include a number of other territories, Russian state news agency RIA Novosti reported.

Lavrov also said that Russia's objectives will expand still further if the West delivers long-range weapons to Kyiv, the agency said.

When Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, President Vladimir Putin denied any intention of occupying Ukrainian territories, saying his aim was to demilitarize and "de-nazify" the country — a statement dismissed by Kyiv and the West as a pretext for an imperial-style war of expansion.

Slimy Russian *****.

Edited July 20, 2022 by blue_gold_84

[GCn20]

On 2022-07-08 at 12:59 PM, WildPath said:

I don't think it matters whether it is out of starvation or not. If you're referring to economic benefit for being able to sell what you kill, that is definitely not allowed, but maybe you're referring to saving money buying meat. Hunting often isn't cheap either.

I've only hunted for food and I don't know anyone who does it purely for fun. Maybe there's a selection bias there. I also think hunting for food is usually more ethical than buying food from grocery stores.

I agree. Hunting is not cheap. Lb for lb you are probably breaking even buying pork, beef, chicken from the store after all is said and done. However, wild meat is excellent table fare, not full of chemicals and hormones, and is very lean and healthy.  I don't hunt for fun, although I have fun hunting. It's a side benefit of doing so. Ethically, it is better to hunt imo as well, especially in areas where game populations require control.

I also know a good number of people who subsistence hunt and are hunting because they can't afford meat. Generally, they are hunting and trapping smaller game, and only occasionally large game...as it is expensive to hunt large game unless you are geographically pretty close to your hunting area.

Edited July 20, 2022 by GCn20