blue_gold_84 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/canada-concerned-fighting-erupts-armenia-s-border-1.5741964 Quote With Armenia and Azerbaijan now pounding each other's tanks and troops from the ground and the air, a regional conflict over an old battleground in the South Caucasus Mountains is threatening to spiral into something larger and much harder to control. The enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh — internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan since the collapse of the Soviet Union, but in practice ruled by Armenia since 1994 — has witnessed fierce fighting on and off for 30 years. The leaders of both Armenia and Azerbaijan have declared martial law and put their nations on a full military mobilization, blaming each other for the escalation. Internet and most communication links have been cut, but some photos and videos posted online purport to show buildings damaged in the current conflict and families huddling together in basements to avoid airstrikes. Between this and what's taking place in Belarus, this year just keeps on getting more craptacular. Edited September 29, 2020 by blue_gold_84 oops JCon and Mr Dee 2
JCon Posted September 29, 2020 Report Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/canada-concerned-fighting-erupts-armenia-s-border-1.5741964 Between this and what's taking place in Lithuania, this year just keeps on getting more craptacular. Belarus? blue_gold_84 1
blue_gold_84 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, JCon said: Belarus? That's the one. Still without coffee this AM. 😬 JCon 1
Mr Dee Posted September 29, 2020 Report Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/canada-concerned-fighting-erupts-armenia-s-border-1.5741964 Between this and what's taking place in Belarus, this year just keeps on getting more craptacular. I don’t see a problem, just send in that ‘Nobel’ Peace guy, he’ll square it away. blue_gold_84, JCon and Tracker 3
blue_gold_84 Posted December 23, 2020 Report Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/u-n-germany-kovrig-spavor-1.5852655 Quote Germany's U.N. envoy, during his last scheduled U.N. Security Council meeting, appealed to China to free two detained Canadians for Christmas, prompting China's deputy U.N. envoy to respond: "Out of the bottom of my heart: Good riddance." Germany finishes a two-year term on the 15-member council at the end of this month and Ambassador Christoph Heusgen plans to retire after more than 40 years as a diplomat. "Let me end my tenure on the Security Council by appealing to my Chinese colleagues to ask Beijing for the release of Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor. Christmas is the right moment for such a gesture," Heusgen told the council session, whose official agenda topic was Iran. China's deputy U.N. ambassador, Geng Shuang, accused Heusgen of abusing the Security Council to launch "malicious" attacks on other members "in an attempt to poison the working atmosphere." "I wish to say something out of the bottom of my heart: Good riddance, Ambassador Heusgen," Geng said. "I am hoping that the council in your absence in the year 2021 will be in a better position to fulfill the responsibilities...for maintaining international peace and security." Quite a nasty - and perhaps telling - response by another defensive Chinese gov't official. What Heusgen said was hardly disrespectful, much less malicious. Geng Shuang* comes across as quite the assclown. But this seems part and parcel for towing the line of the CCP. And that said, **** the CCP. * this is the same moron who crapped all over Canada last spring over the Wanzhou incident. Edited December 23, 2020 by blue_gold_84 info added Wanna-B-Fanboy 1
Tracker Posted December 23, 2020 Report Posted December 23, 2020 2 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/u-n-germany-kovrig-spavor-1.5852655 Quite a nasty - and perhaps telling - response by another defensive Chinese gov't official. What Heusgen said was hardly disrespectful, much less malicious. Geng Shuang* comes across as quite the assclown. But this seems part and parcel for towing the line of the CCP. And that said, **** the CCP. * this is the same moron who crapped all over Canada last spring over the Wanzhou incident. Once you accept that China is run by a dictatorship who have no regard for the powerless, it is a lot easier to understand. blue_gold_84 1
blue_gold_84 Posted February 1, 2021 Report Posted February 1, 2021 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/myanmar-leader-aung-san-suu-kyi-detained-1.5895593 Quote Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi and other senior figures from the ruling party have been detained in an early-morning raid, the spokesperson for the governing National League for Democracy (NLD) said on Monday. The move comes after days of escalating tension between the civilian government and the powerful military that stirred fears of a coup in the aftermath of an election that the army says was fraudulent. NLD spokesperson Myo Nyunt told Reuters by phone that Suu Kyi, President Win Myint and other leaders had been "taken" in the early hours of the morning.
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted May 12, 2021 Author Report Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) Well, I guess Jared's peace in the middle east plan didn't quite pass the sniff test... The Human Shield excuse is ******* flimsy as hell... you can condemn the use of human shields as well as knowingly killing civilians... this doesn't even touch upon the role of occupier and occupied... Edited May 12, 2021 by wanna-b-fanboy Bigblue204, Wideleft and Tracker 2 1
JCon Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Well, I guess Jared's peace in the middle east plan didn't quite pass the sniff test... It's made the situation so, so, so much worse. The Trump regime made the middle east even more unstable than before. Bigblue204 1
TrueBlue4ever Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 32 minutes ago, JCon said: It's made the situation so, so, so much worse. The Trump regime made the middle east even more unstable than before. But Trump got 2 Nobel Peace prize noms out of it, so that’s what matters to them. Can’t let that “boy” Obama best the Donald. (Note: that offensive racist “boy” term is their characterization, not mine). Bigblue204 and JCon 1 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Posted May 13, 2021 THis was a fascinating article: I learned quite a lot through this article.
the watcher Posted May 14, 2021 Report Posted May 14, 2021 I found this interesting, it's basicly about the shifting attitudes on the area where the latest Israeli/ Palestinian conflict flared up. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/13/violence-jerusalem-holy-sites-israeli-right-temple-mount Wanna-B-Fanboy and blue_gold_84 2
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted May 18, 2021 Author Report Posted May 18, 2021 Nice thread giving context to the recent bombings in Gaza: blue_gold_84 1
Tracker Posted May 18, 2021 Report Posted May 18, 2021 A few years ago, according to an article in Israel's Ha'artez newspaper, researchers took DNA samples from Jewish bodies over a thousand years old and compared them to current Israelis as well as Palestinians. Turned out that ancient inhabitants were more closely related to the Palestinians than the Israelis.
Mark F Posted May 18, 2021 Report Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) re israel gaza strip.... both sides......corrupt politicians, and intolerant, violent religious fanatics are driving this awful mess. the extremist jews are violent, racist, sexist people, and the gaza strip hamas leaders are just as bad. a bunch of terrorists. neither sides leaders care about their own citizens. side note, netanyahu's brother led the Raid on entebbe and was killed there. may explain netanyahu's apparent hatred to some extent. Edited May 18, 2021 by Mark F
Tracker Posted May 18, 2021 Report Posted May 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, Mark F said: re Israel Gaza strip.... both sides......corrupt politicians, and intolerant, violent religious fanatics are driving this awful mess. the extremist Jews are violent, racist, sexist people, and the Gaza strip Hamas leaders are just as bad. a bunch of terrorists. neither sides leaders care about their own citizens. side note, Netanyahu's brother led the Raid on Entebbe and was killed there. may explain Netanyahu's apparent hatred to some extent. You are correct in describing the current situation, but it bears noting that for over 600 years, Arabs had total control over Palestine and the Jews had freedom of religious expression and there was peace for the most part. The change came when the UN at the urging of the US and Britain mandated a Jewish homeland. The British gave massive amounts of military equipment to the Israelis when they left and the ethnic cleansing began, continuing to this day. During the centuries that the Arabs held power in Palestine, they could have easily wiped out the Jews with little effort, but chose not to. The ethnic cleansing has provoked retaliation from the Palestinians and justified Israeli actions. The situation could easily be resolved. All the US would have to do is stop the massive subsidies of Israel and the Arabs nation could properly fund Palestinian infrastructure. JCon 1
Mark F Posted May 18, 2021 Report Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Tracker said: there was peace for the most part. I disagree with this. Jews and Christians were strictly second class under muslim rule. sometimes tolerated, sometimes elevaated, and sometimes murdered. the infamous yellow star came into being under Islam. there were some periods under some rulers when Jews were safe, and there also periodic pogroms. as far as recent history, thirties, ww2 head of Palestinian arabs was anti semite. "On March 31, 1933, within weeks of Hitler's rise to power in Germany, al-Husseini sent a telegram to Berlin addressed to the German Consul-General in the British Mandate of Palestine saying that Muslims in Palestine and elsewhere looked forward to spreading their ideology in the Middle East. Al-Husseini secretly met the German Consul-General near the Dead Sea in 1933 and expressed his approval of the anti-Jewish boycott in Germany and asked him not to send any Jews to Palestine. Later that year, the Mufti's assistants approached Wolff,[who?] seeking his help in establishing an Arab National Socialist party in Palestine. Reports reaching the foreign offices in Berlin showed high levels of Arab admiration of Hitler.[145]" Edited May 18, 2021 by Mark F
Mark F Posted May 18, 2021 Report Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Tracker said: The British gave massive amounts of military equipment to the Israelis when they left and the ethnic cleansing began, continuing to this day this is wrong, the jews had to scrounge for their military equipment, and did not get anything from britain. ethnic cleansing. nope. after declaration of state of israel jews were thrown out of every country in the middle east. Edited May 18, 2021 by Mark F
Tracker Posted May 18, 2021 Report Posted May 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Mark F said: this is wrong, the jews had to scrounge for their military equipment, and did not get anything from britain. ethnic cleansing. nope. after declaration of state of israel jews were thrown out of every country in the middle east. It appears, upon further research, that I was wrong and you are correct. However ,the actions of the Israeli government in the past 20 years is still nothing short of ethnic cleansing: 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia
Mark F Posted May 18, 2021 Report Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) for anyone interested in the never discussed or known other side of ethnic cleansing in the middle east. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries Edited May 18, 2021 by Mark F Wanna-B-Fanboy 1
Tracker Posted May 18, 2021 Report Posted May 18, 2021 7 hours ago, Mark F said: this is wrong, the jews had to scrounge for their military equipment, and did not get anything from Britain. ethnic cleansing. nope. after declaration of state of israel jews were thrown out of every country in the middle east. The UN has identified the seizure of Palestinian homes and communities as illegal and racially-based. That sounds like ethnic cleansing to me, and the Zionists (Israel for Jews only) have agitated for the eviction of Palestinians for decades. These hard-right activists have the ear of Netanyahu who has stated that the Golan Heights and the West Bank should be permanently part of Jewish Israel. There can be no peace until there is a just and lasting peace that respects the rights of both. The extremism on both sides benefits a few who have vested interests in keeping the bloodshed going. Bigblue204 1
Mark F Posted May 18, 2021 Report Posted May 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tracker said: The UN has identified the seizure of Palestinian homes and communities as illegal and racially-based. not sure what race based means, anyway, israel should stop taking land and homes from palestians west and gaza. give back the land taken in the last number of years. and hamas should stop firing rockets at israel. Wanna-B-Fanboy and the watcher 1 1
Tracker Posted May 19, 2021 Report Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark F said: not sure what race based means, anyway, israel should stop taking land and homes from palestians west and gaza. give back the land taken in the last number of years. and hamas should stop firing rockets at israel. Someone said that things change only grave by grave. As in many other parts of the world, old grievances continue to poison the futures of the children. Bigblue204 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted May 19, 2021 Author Report Posted May 19, 2021 This ******* gutted me. Tracker and Mark F 2
Mark F Posted May 19, 2021 Report Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Tracker said: Someone said that things change only grave by grave. As in many other parts of the world, old grievances continue to poison the futures of the children. the Serbians and some other group, still have genuine anger over a battle that occurred in the fifteenth century. course some christians have hated jews for christ death, 2021 years. 😂 maybe theres an older grudge, something between neanderthals and humans? homo sapiens..... Edited May 19, 2021 by Mark F
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