World Politics

[HardCoreBlue]

33 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

You did misinterpret. Those are privileges, not rights. And in the Charter, Rights are subject to reasonable limitations for the greater public good. And if you had a clear medical issue that was not elective, your right to medical treatment would not have been denied. 

Social responsibility, greater public good are weird terms for knuckle draggers to wrap their head around.

For example:

'Public Health Measures (Editors note: based in factual ever evolving science) does not apply to me if I so choose, that's my right dictator'.

[17to85]

It's always the same thing. Say outlandish things but when questioned just deflect "well I never said I believes that just asking questions" people think it makes them clever but it's painfully transparent. You hold some insane beliefs and are uncomfortable with being called out for it. 

Like follow this freedumb logic all the way down... does the government have the right to tell me I need to be 18 to enter a bar? Do they have the right to tell me I need a piece of paper to drive a car? Where does it end? What you are talking about is anarchy and that doesn't work.

[TrueBlue4ever]

41 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

I generally only argue with morons... so I guess not. 

[17to85]

Just now, TrueBlue4ever said:

It's either this or work, I made my choice.

[TrueBlue4ever]

Just now, 17to85 said:

It's either this or work, I made my choice.

Fair enough. 🤣TGIF. 

[Mark F]

3 hours ago, JCon said:

HA! No, there isn't. There's a movement for living without responsibility. 

"more personal freedoms"

😂

yeah, that's always been a problem here in Canada, not enough "freedoms"

🤣

 

[Tracker]

4 hours ago, JCon said:

Ah, yes, led by the leader who supports the terrorists and promised to do undemocratic things as PM. Not fascisms, nope. 

And has been supporting the gynophobic MGOTW movement for years.  Mr. PP is riding the crest of optimism during his honeymoon. Now that he is squarely in the light, all of his bigoted past utterances are coming out.

6 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

And what?

What's a little genocide and terrorism between friends?

Edited October 21, 2022 by Tracker

[HardCoreBlue]

4 hours ago, JCon said:

No one is joking. We're just living this "freedumb" nightmare. It's not at all about personal rights. It's about their own, selfish position. They want personal freedom at the expense of everyone else's freedom. They're fine to trade. 

This is not a joking matter. We are using humor to cope and drive home factual points.

Unfortunately though humor I find is not built into the DNA of knuckle draggers.

For example, most (not all) good stand-up comedians aren't lunatics waving the Trump flag around.

 

 

[WildPath]

Late to the party.... Did the poster saying we need to listen to Viktor Orban also say that we need more personal freedoms in Canada?

In that strain of thought - I think our country has a drug problem and needs to be tougher on drug crime. Listen to the words Bob Marley left us with.

[Tracker]

41 minutes ago, WildPath said:

Late to the party.... Did the poster saying we need to listen to Viktor Orban also say that we need more personal freedoms in Canada?

In that strain of thought - I think our country has a drug problem and needs to be tougher on drug crime. Listen to the words Bob Marley left us with.

Hearing about some of the statements of our politicians makes me think you may be right about a drug problem. On a serious note, criminalizing personal drug usage serves no purpose and actually worsens things. Switzerland and Portugal have been leading the way to dealing with drug usage much more effectively and humanely. 

[WildPath]

6 hours ago, Tracker said:

Hearing about some of the statements of our politicians makes me think you may be right about a drug problem. On a serious note, criminalizing personal drug usage serves no purpose and actually worsens things. Switzerland and Portugal have been leading the way to dealing with drug usage much more effectively and humanely. 

Sorry, feeble attempt at humour. Did not mean to spark up a drug debate up here.

Edited October 22, 2022 by WildPath

[TrueBlue4ever]

8 hours ago, WildPath said:

Sorry, feeble attempt at humour. Did not mean to spark up a drug debate up here.

“Spark up”. *Snicker*. 

[blue_gold_84]

On 2022-10-21 at 12:04 PM, Colin Unger said:

I don't think people are yearning for fascism. There's actually a big movement in Canada for more personal freedoms.

***CITATION MISSING***

On 2022-10-21 at 12:55 PM, Colin Unger said:

Surely you guys would be on board with limiting government power considering you think we are on the verge of being run by fascist dictators. We could act now and courts could limit their power once they are in.

We are...? Based on what, the incoherent and false dogwhistles of a weasel like Poilievre?

Nah. Not even close. He can't even engage respectfully with the media or attend debates. What chance does he have in an actual federal election when the national spotlight is aimed steadily on him and he's got no choice but to explain his views or have a rational, honest debate? He'll get eaten alive. And to say nothing about all the attack ads, the material of which he's amply provided to any and all of his opponents.

So, to summarize: no, we do not need to listen to a bozo like Orban and his tainted views on geopolitics or world peace.

On 2022-10-21 at 12:23 PM, TrueBlue4ever said:

What freedoms and rights have you had taken away?

None. Not one. 

[Mark F]

On 2022-10-21 at 2:55 PM, HardCoreBlue said:

This is not a joking matter.

you are correct. It is actually frightening, what we are seeing all around us.

a person posting here, (apparently meaning to be taken seriously) that Canada should take advice from Victor Orban, is nauseating. 

"Hungary’s far-right prime minister, Viktor Orbán, has lashed out against the “mixing” of European and non-European races, in a speech that immediately drew outrage from opposition parties and European politicians.

“We [Hungarians] are not a mixed race … and we do not want to become a mixed race,” said Orbán on Saturday. He added that countries where European and non-Europeans mingle were “no longer nations”.

 

Edited October 23, 2022 by Mark F

[HardCoreBlue]

3 hours ago, Mark F said:

you are correct. It is actually frightening, what we are seeing all around us.

a person posting here, (apparently meaning to be taken seriously) that Canada should take advice from Victor Orban, is nauseating. 

"Hungary’s far-right prime minister, Viktor Orbán, has lashed out against the “mixing” of European and non-European races, in a speech that immediately drew outrage from opposition parties and European politicians.

“We [Hungarians] are not a mixed race … and we do not want to become a mixed race,” said Orbán on Saturday. He added that countries where European and non-Europeans mingle were “no longer nations”.

 

And he did a fly by posting of the link with no context then later offers the reason, ‘useful to hear all sides of propaganda’.

[Mark F]

11 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

And he did a fly by posting of the link with no context then later offers the reason, ‘useful to hear all sides of propaganda’.

"hear all sides"  another version of "cancel culture"

useful for people with worn out, sickening ideas, who want to give an appearance of being reasonable.

often used by thinly veneered racists. 

Edited October 23, 2022 by Mark F

[HardCoreBlue]

1 hour ago, Mark F said:

"hear all sides"  another version of "cancel culture"

useful for people with worn out, sickening ideas, who want to give an appearance of being reasonable.

often used by thinly veneered racists. 

Or just people who truly don't care about anything other than their own immediate inner circles that come with its own tremendous amounts of dysfunctions and will usually gaslight away to hide that fact. Ironically they protect to the death these dysfunctions.

They also bravely lob in grenades from behind their keyboards into the world wide web abyss accusing people from all walks of life, usually with a juvenile non-funny approach but thinking they are being funny, clever and astute, who care about and hold responsibility for other things outside their own immediate inner circles as wokesters, sheep, racists?, radical leftists, communists, socialists, echo chamber, confirmation bias idiots, nasty, cancel culture freaks, not willing to hear all sides etc etc etc.

True well adjusted people who lean right must be having a great time with all of this.

 

 

[Tracker]

Ukraine update: 'Organized withdrawal of troops of the first line is impossible' in Kherson
   
Those days when a Russian position is clearly crumbling? Those are the best days.

On Saturday evening in Ukraine, Russia has once again targeted electrical production and transmission facilities with missile and drone attacks, causing blackouts that involve a large percentage of the population, including the majority of Kyiv. However, this appears to be about the only “good news” on Russian state media and Telegram channels. Because the situation in Kherson appears to be coming to a head sooner than expected.

On Saturday morning, Russian officials called for “immediate evacuation” of the city of Kherson. Officials seem to have followed this order by swiftly hopping on a boat and departing. There have also been reports that over the last two weeks Russia has been subbing in freshly mobilized troops for experienced fighters, while getting the forces who know which end of a rifle to hold across the river. There are also efforts reportedly underway to evacuate Russian personnel from the filtration camp at Beryslav.

Over the course of the day, these withdrawals appear to have become evident on the front lines. There are multiple reports of abandoned Russian positions, some of which have even been confirmed by the Ukrainian general staff (which is usually reluctant to report anything happening near the actual front line). It’s possible that the front line in Kherson is simply collapsing. That may be particularly true if those reports that the line has been replaced by inexperienced and recently mobilized troops. As soon as those guys no longer had someone holding a gun to their back, running away likely seemed like a Real Good Thing.

Ferries are reportedly doing frequent and rapid trips across the river on Saturday night in Ukraine, with Russians hoping to get as much across they can, while keeping an eye out for incoming HIMARS fire.

As Wagner Group Telegram channel GrayZone puts it: “The situation is even worse than in the Kharkiv region after the breakthrough to Balakliya. In fact, the implementation of an organized withdrawal of troops of the first line is impossible.”

[Tracker]

[iHeart]

so this guy wins by default since Boris didn't want the job back

https://deadline.com/2022/10/rishi-sunak-uk-prime-minister-third-in-three-months-1235153071/

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/britain-conservaties-sunak-1.6626988

Quote

Rishi Sunak has won the race to be leader of Britain's Conservative Party and will become the country's next prime minister — the third this year.

Sunak emerged over former leader Boris Johnson and Penny Mourdaunt in the truncated process to replace Liz Truss as leader.

"Rishi has my full support," Mourdant said in a statement on Monday afternoon local time.

Truss announced her resignation last week. Truss's short tenure of just over six weeks was marked by shock over the government's mini-budget, which roiled British markets, and internal party dissension leading to cabinet departures and backbenchers expressing a lack of confidence in their new leader.

Sunak, the former Treasury chief under Johnson, will become Britain's first leader of colour and the first Hindu to take the top job. At 42, he'll also be the youngest British prime minister in more than 200 years.

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

On 2022-10-21 at 8:38 AM, Colin Unger said:

Viktor Orbán says only Donald Trump can end Ukraine war

What the **** is this? 

An actual fascist authoritarian dictator says that wanna-b-fascist authoritarian dictator can stop the war by capitulation completely to the aggressor... 

 

Can there be a more shitty take on this situation? 

 

 

[Tracker]

5 hours ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

What the **** is this? 

An actual fascist authoritarian dictator says that wanna-b-fascist authoritarian dictator can stop the war by capitulation completely to the aggressor... 

 

Can there be a more shitty take on this situation? 

 

 

Stop accusing far right-wingers of having intelligence! Just stop it!

Edited October 24, 2022 by Tracker

[Colin Unger]

On 2022-10-21 at 8:31 PM, WildPath said:

Late to the party.... Did the poster saying we need to listen to Viktor Orban also say that we need more personal freedoms in Canada?

In that strain of thought - I think our country has a drug problem and needs to be tougher on drug crime. Listen to the words Bob Marley left us with.

You guys are incredible.  I did no such thing.  I simply posted an article link.  It would be nice if we could return to the days when people could calmly discuss issues rationally. 

[Mark F]

58 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

simply posted an article link

lol.

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Mark F