NorthernSkunk Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said: I understand the gripe here, but if the entire league were one division, season series would be much less important, and playoff positions would be all but set 2/3 through the season. If today, the league were one division it'd look like this: HAM: 9-2 WPG: 9-3 CAL: 7-4 SSK: 7-4 MTL: 6-4 EDM: 6-6 ************ OTT: 3-8 TOR: 2-9 BC: 1-10 Overall, it'd make the stretch run much less exciting, because there is a lot less for the teams to play for. By no means is the current system perfect, but consolidating things into one division wouldn't help, it'd make the imbalance between good and bad teams that much worse. Teams would be coasting into the playoffs easily with 3-4 games left, without much (if anything) to play for. I totally get what you are saying Eo......I was responding specifically to speedflex....it appears he hasn't gone over this scenario fully yet. Eternal optimist 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Eternal optimist said: They would play in the 2nd place team in the East division semi-final. In this scenario, the 3rd place team in the East wouldn't make the playoffs. The change you're describing doesn't make any sense... if playoffs happened right now, a cross-over would cause EDM (6-6) to play MTL (6-4), in MTL... this makes perfect sense, MTL has the better record. I think what you mean is if the 4th place team in the West has a better record than the 2nd place team in the East...which in that case, I agree that doesn't make sense. You lost me. blue_gold_84 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, NorthernSkunk said: I totally get what you are saying Eo......I was responding specifically to speedflex....it appears he hasn't gone over this scenario fully yet. And I never will.
Eternal optimist Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 7 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: You lost me. In 2017, the situation you're describing applied. A fourth place team (Saskatchewan, 10-8) crossed to the East, and had to play on the road in Ottawa (8-9-1), despite SSK having a better record. That year, SSK actually even had a better record than the East Division Champion (Toronto, 9-9). Your solution however, still doesn't quite make sense though... if SSK did get to host Ottawa instead (because they had a better record), how is that fair to Edmonton? They finished 12-6 (3rd in the West), and would've been the only Western team in the semis to play on the road, despite having a better record than SSK. bearpants, GCJenks, blue_gold_84 and 3 others 6
M.O.A.B. Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 19 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Surprisingly, not too early to start analyzing the playoff race. All scenarios do NOT consider the possibility of ties at this point, just too complicated to factor in that possibility at this point. WEST Winnipeg - have clinched 4th place in the division, will clinch crossover playoff spot with wins and Ottawa losses totalling 2. Will clinch west playoff spot with wins and Edmonton losses totalling 3. Will clinch home playoff game with wins and either Calgary OR Saskatchewan losses totalling 6, will clinch west final home game with wins and Calgary AND Saskatchewan losses totalling 6. Calgary - Will clinch crossover playoff spot with wins and Ottawa losses totalling 4. Will clinch west playoff spot with wins and Edmonton losses totalling 5. Will clinch home playoff game with wins and Saskatchewan losses totalling 7 (if Saskatchewan does not beat them by 28 or more points in their remaining game), will clinch west final home game with wins and Winnipeg losses totalling 8 (if they beat Winnipeg by 3 points or more in their remaining game). Saskatchewan - Will clinch crossover playoff spot with wins and Ottawa losses totalling 4. Will clinch west playoff spot with wins and Edmonton losses totalling 5 (if they win season series). Will clinch home playoff game with wins and Calgary losses totalling 7 (if Saskatchewan beats them by 28 or more points in their remaining game), will clinch west final home game with wins and Winnipeg losses totalling 8 (if they beat Winnipeg in their remaining game). Edmonton - Will clinch crossover playoff spot with wins and Ottawa losses totalling 5. Will clinch west playoff spot with wins and Saskatchewan losses totalling 8 (if they win season series) OR wins and Calgary losses totalling 9. Will clinch home game with wins and Saskatchewan AND Calgary losses totalling 9, will clinch west final home game with wins and Winnipeg losses totalling 10. BC - Can finish no better than 2nd in the West. Eliminated from home playoff game with 1 loss or a Saskatchewan win OR a combo of losses and Calgary wins totalling 2. Eliminated from playoffs with losses and Edmonton wins totalling 2, OR losses and Ottawa wins totalling 5. EAST Hamilton - Have clinched 3rd place in the division. Will clinch a home playoff game with wins and Ottawa losses totalling 2. Will clinch east final home game with wins and Montreal losses totalling 4. Montreal - Will clinch a home playoff game with wins and Ottawa losses totalling 5. Will clinch east final home game with wins and Hamilton losses totalling 11 (if they beat Hamilton in their remaining game). Ottawa - Eliminated from home east final game with losses and Hamilton wins totalling 2. Eliminated from home playoff game with losses and Montreal wins totalling 5. Eliminated from playoffs with losses and Edmonton wins totalling 5. Toronto - Can finish no better than 2nd in the east. Eliminated from home playoff game with losses and Montreal wins totalling 4. Eliminated from playoffs with losses and Edmonton wins totalling 4. CLINCHING SCENARIOS THIS WEEK: Hamilton clinches a playoff spot with a win in Calgary and an Ottawa loss in BC. Mark F and Floyd 1 1
Zontar Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 14 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: The CFL needs to change it's playoff format for the crossover game. If a 4th place team from the West had more points than the third place team in the East (or vice versa) then why should the Western team be punished by having to play the game at the third place team's stadium. They don't deserve it. They should travel to the West & play the game there. Just another bullshit rule to benefit the teams in the East. Crossover is fine as is. Can reward a fourth place team only so much. Bigblue204 and Eternal optimist 1 1
Stickem Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said: Mind boggling...I think we need an algebraic equation and a crystal ball to get on top of this thread
MC Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 22 hours ago, Adrenaline_x said: i need some steak knives, so still a win I think someone thought Chris Matthews needed a steak knife (or fork) and look where that got him. Adrenaline_x 1
Noeller Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, MC said: I think someone thought Chris Matthews needed a steak knife (or fork) and look where that got him. has Matthews done anything of note since going to Montreal? I haven't paid enough attention to know...
NorthernSkunk Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Noeller said: has Matthews done anything of note since going to Montreal? I haven't paid enough attention to know... He is gonna light up the riders this weekend...
WinnipegGordo Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, Noeller said: has Matthews done anything of note since going to Montreal? I haven't paid enough attention to know... They haven't played since he signed there. He's been added to the active roster so he maybe playing this week. Noeller 1
Tracker Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, MC said: I think someone thought Chris Matthews needed a steak knife (or fork) and look where that got him. It got him forked up.
Tracker Posted September 11, 2019 Report Posted September 11, 2019 58 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said: They haven't played since he signed there. He's been added to the active roster so he maybe playing this week. And will probably still go unnoticed. Mr Dee 1
TrueBlue4ever Posted September 17, 2019 Author Report Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Update after week 14: WEST Winnipeg - have clinched 4th place in the division, will clinch crossover playoff spot with a win OR an Ottawa loss. Will clinch west playoff spot with wins and Edmonton losses totalling 3. Will clinch home playoff game with wins and either Calgary OR Saskatchewan losses totalling 6, will clinch west final home game with wins and Calgary AND Saskatchewan losses each totalling 6. Calgary - Will clinch crossover playoff spot with wins and Ottawa losses totalling 2. Will clinch west playoff spot with wins and Edmonton losses totalling 4. Will clinch home playoff game with wins and Saskatchewan losses totalling 6 (if Saskatchewan does not beat them by 28 or more points in their remaining game), will clinch west final home game with wins and Winnipeg losses totalling 7 (if they beat Winnipeg by 3 points or more in their remaining game). Saskatchewan - Will clinch crossover playoff spot with wins and Ottawa losses totalling 2. Will clinch west playoff spot with wins and Edmonton losses totalling 4 (if they win season series). Will clinch home playoff game with wins and Calgary losses totalling 6 (if Saskatchewan beats them by 28 or more points in their remaining game), will clinch west final home game with wins and Winnipeg losses totalling 7 (if they beat Winnipeg in their remaining game). Edmonton - Will clinch crossover playoff spot with wins and Ottawa losses totalling 4. Will clinch west playoff spot with wins and Saskatchewan losses totalling 8 (if they win season series) OR wins and Calgary losses totalling 9. Will clinch home game with wins and Saskatchewan AND Calgary losses totalling 9, will clinch west final home game with wins and Winnipeg losses totalling 10. BC - Can finish no better than 3rd in the West. Eliminated from West playoff game with a loss or a Calgary win. Eliminated from playoffs with losses and Edmonton wins totalling 2, OR losses and Ottawa wins totalling 5. EAST Hamilton - Have clinched 3rd place in the division. Will clinch a home playoff game with a win OR an Ottawa loss. Will clinch east final home game with wins and Montreal losses totalling 5. Montreal - Will clinch a home playoff game with wins and Ottawa losses totalling 4. Will clinch east final home game with wins and Hamilton losses totalling 9 (if they beat Hamilton in their remaining game). Ottawa - Eliminated from home east final game with a loss OR a Hamilton win. Eliminated from home playoff game with losses and Montreal wins totalling 4. Eliminated from playoffs with losses and Edmonton wins totalling 4. Toronto - Can finish no better than 2nd in the east. Eliminated from home playoff game with losses and Montreal wins totalling 4. Eliminated from playoffs with losses and Edmonton wins totalling 4. CLINCHING/ELIMINATION SCENARIOS THIS WEEK: Hamilton clinches a playoff spot and home playoff game with a win in Edmonton OR an Ottawa loss at home to BC. Winnipeg clinches a crossover playoff spot with a win in Montreal OR an Ottawa loss at home to BC. Calgary clinches a crossover playoff spot with a win in Toronto AND an Ottawa loss at home to BC. BC eliminated from playoffs with a loss in Ottawa AND an Edmonton win at home to Hamilton. Edited September 17, 2019 by TrueBlue4ever blue_gold_84, Yourface, Mr Dee and 1 other 2 2
MC Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 Interesting. Lots to play for in the last third of the season. Lots at stake each week down the stretch.
Tracker Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, MC said: Interesting. Lots to play for in the last third of the season. Lots at stake each week down the stretch. I think that there is the attitude of wanting to win every game that has to be nurtured, so letting up in the home stretch could encourage the "we will win when we have to" thinking.
TrueBlue4ever Posted September 27, 2019 Author Report Posted September 27, 2019 Update after week 15: WEST Winnipeg - Have clinched 4th place in the division and crossover playoff spot. Will clinch west playoff spot with wins and Edmonton losses totalling 2. Will clinch home playoff game with wins and either Calgary OR Saskatchewan losses totalling 6, will clinch west final home game with wins and Calgary AND Saskatchewan losses each totalling 6. Calgary - Have clinched 4th place in the division and crossover playoff spot. Will clinch west playoff spot with wins and Edmonton losses totalling 2. Will clinch home playoff game with wins and either Calgary OR Winnipeg losses totalling 6, will clinch west final home game with wins and Calgary AND Winnipeg losses each totalling 6. Saskatchewan - Have clinched 4th place in the division. Will clinch crossover playoff spot with a win OR an Ottawa loss. Will clinch west playoff spot with wins and Edmonton losses totalling 3 (if they win season series). Will clinch home playoff game with wins and Calgary losses totalling 6 (if Saskatchewan beats them by 28 or more points in their remaining game), will clinch west final home game with wins and Winnipeg losses totalling 6 (if they beat Winnipeg in their remaining game). Edmonton - Will clinch crossover playoff spot with wins and Ottawa losses totalling 3. Will clinch west playoff spot with wins and Saskatchewan losses totalling 8 (if they win season series) OR wins and Calgary losses totalling 9. Will clinch home game with wins and Saskatchewan AND Calgary losses totalling 9, will clinch west final home game with wins and Saskatchewan AND Calgary AND Winnipeg losses totalling 9. BC - Can finish no better than 4th in the West. Eliminated from playoffs with losses and Edmonton wins totalling 2, OR losses and Ottawa wins totalling 5. EAST Hamilton - Have clinched 2nd place in the division and a home playoff game. Will clinch east final home game with wins and Montreal losses totalling 4. Montreal - Will clinch a home playoff game with wins and Ottawa AND Toronto losses totalling 2. Will clinch east final home game with wins and Hamilton losses totalling 8 (if they beat Hamilton in their remaining game). Ottawa - Can finish no better than 2nd in the East. Eliminated from home playoff game with losses and Montreal wins totalling 2. Eliminated from playoffs with losses and Edmonton wins totalling 3. Toronto - Can finish no better than 2nd in the east. Eliminated from home playoff game with losses and Montreal wins totalling 2. Eliminated from playoffs with losses and Edmonton wins totalling 3. CLINCHING/ELIMINATION SCENARIOS THIS WEEK: Winnipeg clinches a Western playoff spot with a win at home against Hamilton AND an Edmonton loss in Ottawa. Saskatchewan clinches a crossover playoff spot with a win in Toronto OR an Ottawa loss at home to Edmonton. BC eliminated from playoffs with a loss at home to Montreal AND an Edmonton win in Ottawa. Montreal clinches 2nd in the East and a home playoff game with a win in BC AND an Ottawa loss at home to Edmonton AND a Toronto loss at home to Saskatchewan. JCon, voodoochylde, Noeller and 2 others 1 4
voodoochylde Posted September 27, 2019 Report Posted September 27, 2019 So .. outside of Hamilton .. I'm cheering for a whole slate of eastern teams this weekend. Go Red-argo-uettes! JCon and Noeller 1 1
Noeller Posted September 27, 2019 Report Posted September 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, voodoochylde said: So .. outside of Hamilton .. I'm cheering for a whole slate of eastern teams this weekend. Go Red-argo-uettes! I have a full weekend off work for the first time in forever, and I can't express how much I'm looking forward to parking my ass on the couch for a triple header tomorrow.... JCon and Tracker 2
Tracker Posted September 27, 2019 Report Posted September 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, Noeller said: I have a full weekend off work for the first time in forever, and I can't express how much I'm looking forward to parking my ass on the couch for a triple header tomorrow.... Gotta get through tonight first. Don't think this game is going to be a gimme for our side. Noeller 1
BigBlueFanatic Posted September 27, 2019 Report Posted September 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tracker said: Gotta get through tonight first. Don't think this game is going to be a gimme for our side. Not counting on Hamilton giving us anything either... I just expect our guys are gonna take care of business and not stop till the game is actually over. Noeller 1
JCon Posted September 27, 2019 Report Posted September 27, 2019 I believe this would be the first series of the season that we would lose if we don't win by at least 8 points.
Noeller Posted September 27, 2019 Report Posted September 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, BigBlueFanatic said: Not counting on Hamilton giving us anything either... I just expect our guys are gonna take care of business and not stop till the game is actually over. Win or lose, this is ALWAYS the case with an MOS team. Take the foot off the pedal when they're up? For sure. Stop hustling and be completely out of a game? Never. BigBlueFanatic 1
do or die Posted September 29, 2019 Report Posted September 29, 2019 On 2019-09-27 at 2:17 PM, Noeller said: Take the foot off the pedal when they're up? For sure. We really need to stop doing that part....seriously. Noeller 1
Mark F Posted September 29, 2019 Report Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) On 2019-09-11 at 11:12 AM, Noeller said: has Matthews done anything of note since going to Montreal? I haven't paid enough attention to know... Scored two touchdowns against the bombers Edited September 29, 2019 by Mark F
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