blue_gold_84 Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Floyd said: There were a lot of sideways glances when that Little extension came out... its not hindsight Regardless of how fans reacted when Little's extension was signed, you can't dump on Cheveldayoff for making that move and then use the Stastny acquisition to justify said criticism. That trade, which happened months after Little's extension, surprised the entire hockey world. There was nothing to suggest back in the fall of 2017 that Stastny would become available at the TDL later that season. Moreover, the Jets tried to keep Stastny by moving salary in the 2018 off-season. If memory serves me correctly, he was offered a two-year deal worth around $6M per year. He opted to sign with the Knights who gave him an extra year and slightly more money. I didn't necessarily agree with the Little extension at the time, but I can understand why it happened when it did. I just don't see a logical correlation between that and "losing" Stastny. And I agree: Little appears to have lost a step and it's a problem for this team going forward.
Brandon Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 Is it possible that Byfuglien could retire and then re-join the team later in the season on a new contract? Maybe a ploy to give the big guy a break and gain extra moolah to sign Laine and Connor? blue_gold_84 1
Noeller Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, Brandon said: Is it possible that Byfuglien could retire and then re-join the team later in the season on a new contract? Maybe a ploy to give the big guy a break and gain extra moolah to sign Laine and Connor? that's not happening in a million years.......
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 36 minutes ago, Floyd said: There were a lot of sideways glances when that Little extension came out... its not hindsight Little is a third line player getting $5 million plus - its a problem Until a center gets more goals then Little he's our #2 center. Noeller 1
The Unknown Poster Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Regardless of how fans reacted when Little's extension was signed, you can't dump on Cheveldayoff for making that move and then use the Stastny acquisition to justify said criticism. That trade, which happened months after Little's extension, surprised the entire hockey world. There was nothing to suggest back in the fall of 2017 that Stastny would become available at the TDL later that season. Moreover, the Jets tried to keep Stastny by moving salary in the 2018 off-season. If memory serves me correctly, he was offered a two-year deal worth around $6M per year. He opted to sign with the Knights who gave him an extra year and slightly more money. I didn't necessarily agree with the Little extension at the time, but I can understand why it happened when it did. I just don't see a logical correlation between that and "losing" Stastny. And I agree: Little appears to have lost a step and it's a problem for this team going forward. In fact, I recall Chevy saying they actually went above their own comfort level in their offer to Stastny before losing the bidding war to Vegas, And your memory is correct in how we got him in the first place. Chevy was surprised when he was texted that Stastny was available. blue_gold_84 1
bustamente Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 Buff played 40 or so games last year, if I recall the team had a not bad record without him, yes we still had Trouba and Myers and to a lesser extent Chiarot so it didn't effect the D to badly but Buff was going to anchor the D this year and this is a huge blow, Noeller 1
BomberBall Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Until a center gets more goals then Little he's our #2 center. Don't agree with that logic at all. Besides, what did he score last year? 15? Give someone else a shot on the 2nd line and I bet that they could handle that level of production. Hell Copp, I think had 11 goals, playing less games and with much lesser talent. Edited September 18, 2019 by BomberBall Floyd 1
Floyd Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 41 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: I didn't necessarily agree with the Little extension at the time, but I can understand why it happened when it did. I just don't see a logical correlation between that and "losing" Stastny. And I agree: Little appears to have lost a step and it's a problem for this team going forward. Its not Statsny as an isolated case... jumping the gun with Little also had a ripple effect with Copp, Roslo, Lowry... Little's salary has trapped him as our 2nd C... now its two straight years of bringing in a trade deadline asset and admitting that Little is not working at the 2C... But he will be trotted out again... and it won't work again I like Little when he's with Perrault and Copp or Ehlers... aside from that, he's a difficult player to pair with anyone - a shooting Centre who is not a world class sniper... kelownabomberfan 1
JCon Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Floyd said: Its not Statsny as an isolated case... jumping the gun with Little also had a ripple effect with Copp, Roslo, Lowry... Little's salary has trapped him as our 2nd C... now its two straight years of bringing in a trade deadline asset and admitting that Little is not working at the 2C... But he will be trotted out again... and it won't work again I like Little when he's with Perrault and Copp or Ehlers... aside from that, he's a difficult player to pair with anyone - a shooting Centre who is not a world class sniper... You want to replace Little with Copp, Roslo, or Lowry? None of those guys are second line centres. Maybe Roslo can become one but he hasn't shown it so far. Noeller, blue_gold_84 and captaincanuck12 2 1
Floyd Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, JCon said: You want to replace Little with Copp, Roslo, or Lowry? None of those guys are second line centres. Maybe Roslo can become one but he hasn't shown it so far. I'm saying that we have no idea if they can be or not... Kevin Hayes sure didn't look like a 2C when he showed up either
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Floyd said: I'm saying that we have no idea if they can be or not... Kevin Hayes sure didn't look like a 2C when he showed up either It's the Ehlers/Laine curse. blue_gold_84 1
Floyd Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: It's the Ehlers/Laine curse. No one wants to dress up like CatWoman... FrostyWinnipeg 1
iHeart Posted September 19, 2019 Report Posted September 19, 2019 okay, so say Buff does retire, who would wear the second A? or would Scheif be the lone A? because I imagine Little probably would wear the Vet A
The Unknown Poster Posted September 19, 2019 Report Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, iHeart said: okay, so say Buff does retire, who would wear the second A? or would Scheif be the lone A? because I imagine Little probably would wear the Vet A Josh. Noeller, BomberBall, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 1 3
iHeart Posted September 19, 2019 Report Posted September 19, 2019 Really? you think Morrissey should wear the A? The Unknown Poster 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 19, 2019 Report Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, iHeart said: Really? you think Morrissey should wear the A? Probably. With 2 forwards with a C/A they should throw a bone to your best D man. Not that I care about that stuff Edited September 19, 2019 by FrostyWinnipeg The Unknown Poster 1
The Unknown Poster Posted September 19, 2019 Report Posted September 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, iHeart said: Really? you think Morrissey should wear the A? Yup. He’s here for 9 years. Loves being here. #1 d man. blue_gold_84 1
blue_gold_84 Posted September 19, 2019 Report Posted September 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Yup. He’s here for 9 years. Loves being here. #1 d man. I think this is a great idea. Another key piece of that young core getting a letter could work in this team's favour. Morrissey looks to have all the intangibles needed for a leadership role. Wheeler as the captain with Scheifele and Morrissey as alternates is something I'd support for sure. Hell, I'd even say give him an A even if Byfuglien comes back. Two leaders up front, two leaders on the back end.
The Unknown Poster Posted September 20, 2019 Report Posted September 20, 2019 We can now all relax Piggy 1 and blue_gold_84 2
Floyd Posted September 20, 2019 Report Posted September 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: We can now all relax Blondes never lie
HardCoreBlue Posted September 20, 2019 Report Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: We can now all relax Man I love Buff, cool unique cat.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 20, 2019 Report Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: We can now all relax I'm a pretty trusting person but when it comes to women who drink on the patio at Earls...well, fool me once! blue_gold_84, Dr Zaius, JCon and 2 others 1 1 3
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 20, 2019 Report Posted September 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Noeller 1
BomberBall Posted September 20, 2019 Report Posted September 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: That's great, but what was the conversation about? Fishing or hockey?
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