Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 2 hours ago, JCon said: I've decided that I now like the trade for Collaros. I'm giving this one a thumbs up! So, uh- what firmed it up for you? Mark F 1
Booch Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: So, uh- what firmed it up for you? I think when he saw his wife hahahaha Wanna-B-Fanboy, Mark F, blue_gold_84 and 4 others 1 6
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 This question is for another day. I just want to enjoy winning the Cup. Who got da Cup? We got da Cup! Who got da Cup? We got da Cup!! J5V, wbbfan and JCon 1 1 1
The Unknown Poster Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 Strev’s toss was a thing of beauty. Would be great to have him and ZC here all season. I assume ZC wants to go back east but there’s no better situation if You want to win then here. Tracker and Mark F 2
Super Duper Negatron Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 Looking at Zach's numbers after four games, I don't see how we couldn't have achieved the exact same result with Nichols. We won with Zach the same way we always have with Matt. No turnovers, scoring off opposing turnovers, great run game and good defense. There were more deep balls, sure, but the blueprint was the same. I guess my point is, Collaros was a great pick up because he was able to come in and give us what we were missing when Nichols went down. Fatty Liver 1
Booch Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said: Looking at Zach's numbers after four games, I don't see how we couldn't have achieved the exact same result with Nichols. We won with Zach the same way we always have with Matt. No turnovers, scoring off opposing turnovers, great run game and good defense. There were more deep balls, sure, but the blueprint was the same. I guess my point is, Collaros was a great pick up because he was able to come in and give us what we were missing when Nichols went down. agreed...was same script...the only thing I think that was different tho was Zack in the pocket...his pocket presence and ability to move around in it to make the deeper shots when needed...not sure Nichols would have been able to do that on all the occasions Collaros did...but guess we will never know...and for now....who cares hahaha TBURGESS, blue85gold, Floyd and 5 others 3 5
Jpan85 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 Zack Collaros final record in Blue and Gold may go down as 4-0 3-0 in the playoffs and 1 Grey Cup. Legend in the City of Winnipeg forever. bigg jay, Noeller, blue_gold_84 and 3 others 3 3
do or die Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said: Looking at Zach's numbers after four games, I don't see how we couldn't have achieved the exact same result with Nichols. We won with Zach the same way we always have with Matt. No turnovers, scoring off opposing turnovers, great run game and good defense. There were more deep balls, sure, but the blueprint was the same. I guess my point is, Collaros was a great pick up because he was able to come in and give us what we were missing when Nichols went down. Agree...but ZC's ability to scramble away from pressure, was a bonus Noeller, NorthernSkunk and J5V 3
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Adrenaline_x Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 I've always like Matt Nichols play here for the most part. But i'm starting to Think we need to sign Collaros instead of Matt nichols because he has better pocket pressence and can roll out and still throw downfield vs throwing it away. My concern is his ability to stay healthy and whether or not we can Keep Strevler as well for that 1-2 punch. Mcquire will hopefully turn into a lights out QB in the future. But do we go with Masoli, Arcbuckle if given the chance or do you go with who you know you got? blue85gold 1
blue85gold Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Booch said: agreed...was same script...the only thing I think that was different tho was Zack in the pocket...his pocket presence and ability to move around in it to make the deeper shots when needed...not sure Nichols would have been able to do that on all the occasions Collaros did...but guess we will never know...and for now....who cares hahaha Agree totally. Collaros seemed to move in the pocket a bit better and attack down field more.
Noeller Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 Yeah, I'm well known as a Matt Nichols supporter and I'll go to bat for him all day, but we were saying last night that there were a couple plays where the pocket collapsed and in that situation, Nichols would eat the sack or throw it away, but Collaros was able to navigate the pressure while keeping his eyes downfield the entire time, and then find a target 10-15 yards down. That's not something I'm sure Nichols could or would do... B-F-F-C, JCon, J5V and 6 others 3 6
Fatty Liver Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Adrenaline_x said: I've always like Matt Nichols play here for the most part. But i'm starting to Think we need to sign Collaros instead of Matt nichols because he has better pocket pressence and can roll out and still throw downfield vs throwing it away. My concern is his ability to stay healthy and whether or not we can Keep Strevler as well for that 1-2 punch. Mcquire will hopefully turn into a lights out QB in the future. But do we go with Masoli, Arcbuckle if given the chance or do you go with who you know you got? Between Collaros, Nichols, Streveler and McGuire they've got plenty of in-house options to consider, I don't think they'll bother chasing after Masoli or Arbuckle. Jesse, J5V and Mark F 3
Adrenaline_x Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Between Collaros, Nichols, Streveler and McGuire they've got plenty of in-house options to consider, I don't think they'll bother chasing after Masoli or Arbuckle. I wouldn't think so either but with all our QBs being free agents they need to consider these things.. the closer they get to Free agency the more worried i will be. Big Chris needs to come back.. he presence and results are part of the identity of the Team.. And i'm Leaning toward collaros vs nichols if they can do that. He appears to be a good fit and regained his stardom that i thought he had lost. To think, they called in Drew, the now limp, willy.. **** that could have been brutal. But if Lapo is gone, the offence could look completely differnt next year. Are there any proven OCs that we can hire?
Jpan85 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 Really think that Buck Pierce has earned the opportunity to be the OC if Lapo moves on. Noeller, blue_gold_84, Fatty Liver and 2 others 1 4
Adrenaline_x Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Jpan85 said: Really think that Buck Pierce has earned the opportunity to be the OC if Lapo moves on. yah... familar with the Playbook. Familar with the QBs. has done a great job getting the QBs playing well. The Unknown Poster 1
Booch Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 I'd be more than OK with Buck taking over if need be...he is already heavily involved in creating the game plan...taking input from players and incorporating it into what they do...former QB so he knows the league and has been coaching for what...7 years now?..he's ready...he would most likely call a game more like he played and not as conservative as Lapo..And I'd be fine with that... Noeller 1
Arnold_Palmer Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Noeller said: Yeah, I'm well known as a Matt Nichols supporter and I'll go to bat for him all day, but we were saying last night that there were a couple plays where the pocket collapsed and in that situation, Nichols would eat the sack or throw it away, but Collaros was able to navigate the pressure while keeping his eyes downfield the entire time, and then find a target 10-15 yards down. That's not something I'm sure Nichols could or would do... I love me some matty ice but Collaros was able to move around in the pocket effortlessly. Jesse, comedygeek, Noeller and 1 other 2 2
GCJenks Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 Here's something that just occurred to me. If Zach doesn't come back he won a Grey Cup with the Bombers having never lost a game. Has a QB ever done such a thing before?
Fatty Liver Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, GCJenks said: Here's something that just occurred to me. If Zach doesn't come back he won a Grey Cup with the Bombers having never lost a game. Has a QB ever done such a thing before? No way, 4-0 to win the cup will never be duplicated again. It's way too crazy. GCJenks, blue_gold_84, Bigblue204 and 1 other 4
Tiny759 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Adrenaline_x said: I wouldn't think so either but with all our QBs being free agents they need to consider these things.. the closer they get to Free agency the more worried i will be. Big Chris needs to come back.. he presence and results are part of the identity of the Team.. And i'm Leaning toward collaros vs nichols if they can do that. He appears to be a good fit and regained his stardom that i thought he had lost. To think, they called in Drew, the now limp, willy.. **** that could have been brutal. But if Lapo is gone, the offence could look completely differnt next year. Are there any proven OCs that we can hire? So either one of Matt and Chris or zach and Chris. That means McGuire goes on the pr. Stalls his development or we lose him totally. Or we go with strev and McGuire and too me that sounds like a scary situation going into the new year.
Noeller Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tiny759 said: So either one of Matt and Chris or zach and Chris. That means McGuire goes on the pr. Stalls his development or we lose him totally. Or we go with strev and McGuire and too me that sounds like a scary situation going into the new year. If there's one thing I've learned, it's that you can't go into a CFL season without a veteran QB1....... see: Redblacks, Ottawa J5V 1
wbbfan Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Between Collaros, Nichols, Streveler and McGuire they've got plenty of in-house options to consider, I don't think they'll bother chasing after Masoli or Arbuckle. I agree. Though I do like arbuckle, I think calgary may finally move one from BLM and keep arbuckle. That is the most calgary thing to do. Any one know the contract status of MBT? That could be an interesting name in FA, Itd be interesting to see what he could do on a good team.
Tiny759 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Noeller said: If there's one thing I've learned, it's that you can't go into a CFL season without a veteran QB1....... see: Redblacks, Ottawa Don’t forget Toronto too! I think fans are just gonna have to deal with losing a qb wether it be Matt or Chris or McGuire, I don’t think all 3 of them are back Noeller 1
Fatty Liver Posted November 25, 2019 Report Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiny759 said: Don’t forget Toronto too! I think fans are just gonna have to deal with losing a qb wether it be Matt or Chris or McGuire, I don’t think all 3 of them are back If the CFL persists with this two QB rule, McGuire will be just one of a boatload of young QB's pushed out but hanging around the periphery on PR lists.
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