SpeedFlex27 Posted October 27, 2019 Author Report Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said: A different oc and better QB coaching would make the team better.....not just one guy.... It's been said here before by other posters but sometimes OC's outsmart themselves. We see that with LaPo & with Chapdelaine. Plus in meetings, Jacques can be condescending & intimidating which makes learning even more difficult. Expecting qbs to be PHD level smart to master a playbook isn't the best idea, I believe. An OC will neuter any talent his qbs have by having them think too much out on the field. Or suffer from a lack of confidence which leads to sacks & turnovers. It takes longer for them to completely understand the playbook & have their natural abilities start to take over. Posters here can say what they want about Dave Dickenson as a HC but he does foster a much more positive atmosphere for his qbs to learn & grow. Being a former qb he knows what it takes to play well in the CFL & he has a lot of success grooming young qbs. Edited October 27, 2019 by SpeedFlex27 J5V 1
J5V Posted October 27, 2019 Report Posted October 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: It's been said here before by other posters but sometimes OC's outsmart themselves. We see that with LaPo & with Chapdelaine. Plus in meetings, Jacques can be condescending & intimidating which makes learning even more difficult. Expecting qbs to be PHD level smart to master a playbook isn't the best idea, I believe. An OC will neuter any talent his qbs have by having them think too much out on the field. Or suffer from a lack of confidence which leads to sacks & turnovers. It takes longer for them to completely understand the playbook & have their natural abilities start to take over. Posters here can say what they want about Dave Dickenson as a HC but he does foster a much more positive atmosphere for his qbs to learn & grow. Being a former qb he knows what it takes to play well in the CFL & he has a lot of success grooming young qbs.
NorthernSkunk Posted October 27, 2019 Report Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: It's been said here before by other posters but sometimes OC's outsmart themselves. We see that with LaPo & with Chapdelaine. Plus in meetings, Jacques can be condescending & intimidating which makes learning even more difficult. Expecting qbs to be PHD level smart to master a playbook isn't the best idea, I believe. An OC will neuter any talent his qbs have by having them think too much out on the field. Or suffer from a lack of confidence which leads to sacks & turnovers. It takes longer for them to completely understand the playbook & have their natural abilities start to take over. Posters here can say what they want about Dave Dickenson as a HC but he does foster a much more positive atmosphere for his qbs to learn & grow. Being a former qb he knows what it takes to play well in the CFL & he has a lot of success grooming young qbs. So like you said earlier......Nichols could have been better these past few years.
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Report Posted October 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said: So like you said earlier......Nichols could have been better these past few years. Yes, what do you think I & other posters have been saying for 2 seasons? LaPo & Pierce's qb coaching hasn't been as good as other teams. What would Dane Evans look like in our offense? Absolutely nothing the way he looks in Hamilton. He'd be struggling as well. Or at the very least his numbers would be half to 2/3 of what he puts up every weekend. I don't think any up & coming FA qb wants to play here. Why would they?
17to85 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Posted October 28, 2019 I've said it a lot, but I want a former qb as our next OC. rebusrankin and Noeller 1 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Report Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, 17to85 said: I've said it a lot, but I want a former qb as our next OC. Dinwiddie. rebusrankin and Tracker 2
17to85 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Dinwiddie. Yeah he's the guy I want I think. Worse guys to learn from than hufnagel and dickenson.
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Report Posted October 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Yeah he's the guy I want I think. Worse guys to learn from than hufnagel and dickenson. What about Pierce? Think he's ready to step up?? Different system.
Brandon Posted October 28, 2019 Report Posted October 28, 2019 I don't like MBT but he is the league leader in TD's thrown.
Eternal optimist Posted October 28, 2019 Report Posted October 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, Brandon said: I don't like MBT but he is the league leader in TD's thrown. So many of those came in garbage time though with the game already out of reach.
17to85 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: What about Pierce? Think he's ready to step up?? Different system. i dunno about Pierce, he hasn't done anything with Lapo so it's hard to gauge what he brings. At least with a guy from Calgary you have him being experienced learning from some of the best OCs the league has had recently. TBURGESS 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Report Posted October 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, 17to85 said: i dunno about Pierce, he hasn't done anything with Lapo so it's hard to gauge what he brings. At least with a guy from Calgary you have him being experienced learning from some of the best OCs the league has had recently. Agree totally & if LaPo is replaced do the Bombers want another LaPo bringing the same offense to every game?
17to85 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Posted October 28, 2019 I don't think Pierce would be another Lapo and I wouldn't be opposed to him getting a shot, I just honestly have no idea what he'd be like.
Brandon Posted October 28, 2019 Report Posted October 28, 2019 How would anyone know what Pierce would be like. JCon 1
Noeller Posted October 28, 2019 Report Posted October 28, 2019 I'm fully on board with Coach Buck taking over next year, but if it's Dinwiddie, it's not the worst thing. Better than Lapo, tho that's a pretty low bar... J5V and Tracker 1 1
B-F-F-C Posted October 28, 2019 Report Posted October 28, 2019 I don’t believe dinwiddie calls the plays in Calgary. So you really don’t know how he’d handle the pressure. Noeller and TBURGESS 2
17to85 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, B-F-F-C said: I don’t believe dinwiddie calls the plays in Calgary. So you really don’t know how he’d handle the pressure. He always had the reputation as a smart qb though, and I have the expectation that a smart qb understands how to call plays. Same reason I'd be OK with Pierce too. Guy isn't a dummy, I think he knows how to run an offense. Noeller 1
Brandon Posted October 28, 2019 Report Posted October 28, 2019 I don't know about Buck being regarded as an intelligent QB, lots of heart and a desire to win. I've never read anything about him being able to dissect a defense. Then again coaching involves much more then just that so who knows if he would be any good.
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