The Trade Thread

[Stickem]

Time to have a really good look at Chevy's future with this club................................??

[blue_gold_84]

GM of the Winnipeg Jets could be the crappiest management job in professional hockey.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

5 minutes ago, Stickem said:

Time to have a really good look at Chevy's future with this club................................??

It’s okay, we can fire Chevy and hire Trotz!

[JCon]

15 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

GM of the Winnipeg Jets could be the crappiest management job in professional hockey.

Can't disagree enough. He gets paid tons and doesn't have to produce anything. Middling GM on a middling team. Can't attract players or coaches. 

[blue_gold_84]

7 minutes ago, JCon said:

Can't disagree enough. He gets paid tons and doesn't have to produce anything. Middling GM on a middling team. Can't attract players or coaches. 

This is a draft and develop franchise based on the complexities in today's NHL with NMCs, NTCs, and rights for players to decide where they want to go.

I get that fans are frustrated by the team's recent struggles and lack of trades, but this narrative that Cheveldayoff doesn't try or doesn't have to try seems rather baseless.

How would you suggest he do better as GM in order to "attract" players or coaches?

[JCon]

Just now, blue_gold_84 said:

This is a draft and develop franchise based on the complexities in today's NHL with NMCs, NTCs, and rights for players to decide where they want to go.

I get that fans are frustrated by the team's recent struggles and lack of trades, but this narrative that Cheveldayoff doesn't try or doesn't have to try seems rather baseless.

How would you suggest he do better as GM in order to "attract" players or coaches?

Hire a better GM. It's more than 10 years of middling, nothingness. His last coach had to fire himself. Couldn't attract their marquee coach last year. Can't attract players. 

[blue_gold_84]

3 minutes ago, JCon said:

Hire a better GM. 

Who's a better GM currently available?

[JCon]

1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Who's a better GM currently available?

Who knows but you know Chevy not the answer. 

[blue_gold_84]

1 minute ago, JCon said:

Who knows but you know Chevy not the answer. 

But another, "better" GM that can't be named is maybe the answer.

Everything wrong with the Jets is Kevin Cheveldayoff's fault. 

[JCon]

1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said:

But another, "better" GM that can't be named is maybe the answer.

Everything wrong with the Jets is Kevin Cheveldayoff's fault. 

It's not all his fault but he's been here over 10 years. Every contract, every coach, every player is his and it's not enough.

You can accept it but the fans, not going to games anymore, are not. 

[blue_gold_84]

1 minute ago, JCon said:

It's not all his fault but he's been here over 10 years. Every contract, every coach, every player is his and it's not enough.

You can accept it but the fans, not going to games anymore, are not. 

The Jets attendance figures are up compared to last season, though. By a considerable margin. 

2021-22: 12716 (https://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendance/att_graph_season.php?lid=NHL1927&sid=2022)
2022-23: 14081 (https://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendance/att_graph_season.php?lid=NHL1927&sid=2023)

This is a small market Canadian franchise and there is a set of challenges it faces in today's NHL related to trades, player acquisition, and player retention. Whoever were to replace Cheveldayoff would have to deal with that same reality.

[Brandon]

I don't understand how firing Chevy somehow makes Winnipeg a more attractive city for players to want to come join us?   I wasn't aware that Chevy controlled the freezing cold weather and the completely non existent nightlife/downtown life in our city?   

 

[JCon]

1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said:

The Jets attendance figures are up compared to last season, though. By a considerable margin. 

2021-22: 12716 (https://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendance/att_graph_season.php?lid=NHL1927&sid=2022)
2022-23: 14081 (https://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendance/att_graph_season.php?lid=NHL1927&sid=2023)

This is a small market Canadian franchise and there is a set of challenges it faces in today's NHL related to trades, player acquisition, and player retention. Whoever were to replace Cheveldayoff would have to deal with that same reality.

Covid. Come on. 

 

The Jets will forever be a middling team with Chevy at the helm. Defend him all you want but you're not ever going to get a truly competitive team with a competitive coach. 

[blue_gold_84]

5 minutes ago, JCon said:

Covid. Come on. 

The Jets will forever be a middling team with Chevy at the helm. Defend him all you want but you're not ever going to get a truly competitive team with a competitive coach. 

You're just arguing in bad faith.

[JCon]

Just now, blue_gold_84 said:

You're just arguing in bad faith.

Again, you can be happy with Chevy and make lots of excuses but he's not a good GM. 

[blue_gold_84]

1 minute ago, JCon said:

Again, you can be happy with Chevy and make lots of excuses but he's not a good GM. 

Show me where I claimed to be happy or made "lots of excuses" for the team's GM.

[JCon]

16 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

This is a small market Canadian franchise and there is a set of challenges it faces in today's NHL related to trades, player acquisition, and player retention. 

Here you are. 

Every team plays with the same salary cap. 

[Bubba Zanetti]

9 minutes ago, JCon said:

Covid. Come on. 

 

The Jets will forever be a middling team with Chevy at the helm. Defend him all you want but you're not ever going to get a truly competitive team with a competitive coach. 

There isnt a GM out there that would be able to do a much better job than Chevy. His hands are perpetually tied. Winnipeg will forever be the last place players want to sign with/be traded to. I cant imagine how many times he's heard "thanks, but not interested in signing there" and "youre on his no trade list". I think he's done as best a job as any GM in Winnipeg can do.

[JCon]

There you go! Accept mediocrity. 

[blue_gold_84]

Just now, JCon said:

Here you are. 

Every team plays with the same salary cap. 

Swing and a miss. And a really absurd oversimplification.

You ignored the NMC/NTC particulars where the vast majority of players in the NHL have Winnipeg at the top of their list. Not to mention RFA and arbitration rights.

It's like you're not even making an effort to have a worthwhile discussion, man.

[JCon]

If you accept that nothing can be done to make the Jets a better team, then Chevy is your guy. And, I have to wonder about the future of the team if you can't attract anyone to play here and you can't be competitive.

1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Swing and a miss. And a really absurd oversimplification.

You ignored the NMC/NTC particulars where the vast majority of players in the NHL have Winnipeg at the top of their list. Not to mention RFA and arbitration rights.

It's like you're not even making an effort to have a worthwhile discussion, man.

Chychrun didn't have a no trade. 

[blue_gold_84]

Back on topic:

Greasy how the NHL continues to let this **** slide while propping up that clown franchise.

Edited March 2, 2023 by blue_gold_84
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[rebusrankin]

Chevy has been GM for 12 years and we have won three playoff series and basically had one magical playoff run five years ago. How long does he get or is he just GM for life because we're a small market team that players seem to shy away from?

[JCon]

1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Back on topic:

Greasy how the NHL continues to let this **** slide while propping up that clown franchise.

The Arizona Bettman's win again. 

[Bubba Zanetti]

12 minutes ago, JCon said:

There you go! Accept mediocrity. 

Rather reality.