2019-20 CFL Offseason

[JCon]

For some teams, the CFL Offseason is here. Rather than lose all the coaching movement discussions to the Regular season thread, I thought we could start putting it here.

Those teams currently lost in the wilderness:

Ottawa

Toronto

BC

Montreal

Calgary

Edmonton

Saskatchewan

Hamilton

The champs are here.. the champs are here... Winnipeg*

 

*Grey Cup Champions

[NorthernSkunk]

This thread could really pick up after Sunday if we don't win eh......  I'm not sure though that O'Shea would be that hot of a commodity with his record,  regular season record his is building on....but a poor playoff record will eventually overshadow that won't it ?

[Jesse]

5 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said:

This thread could really pick up after Sunday if we don't win eh......  I'm not sure though that O'Shea would be that hot of a commodity with his record,  regular season record his is building on....but a poor playoff record will eventually overshadow that won't it ?

Nope. Only three teams in the off season right now. We'll all get there eventually but lets not expedite the process.

The real question, do we see a coaching change in Toronto? They've been beat to the punch by the two other teams already.

[JCon]

1 minute ago, Jesse said:

Nope. Only three teams in the off season right now. We'll all get there eventually but lets not expedite the process.

The real question, do we see a coaching change in Toronto? They've been beat to the punch by the two other teams already.

I'm not sure what they'll do. They're still paying Trestman and that's counting against their salary cap, so, I think they'll stay put. Unless MOS becomes available, which I doubt. 

[Jesse]

Just now, JCon said:

I'm not sure what they'll do. They're still paying Trestman and that's counting against their salary cap, so, I think they'll stay put. Unless MOS becomes available, which I doubt. 

My god, this can't be true. 

[JCon]

1 minute ago, Jesse said:

My god, this can't be true. 

He signed a three year deal in 2017. Regardless, when they fired him, his salary still counted against the cap. As I understand it, they're able to spread that out over 5 years. So, $600k *2 years (2018 & 2019) = $1.2M /5 = $240k/year against the cap. 

[TBURGESS]

14 minutes ago, JCon said:

He signed a three year deal in 2017. Regardless, when they fired him, his salary still counted against the cap. As I understand it, they're able to spread that out over 5 years. So, $600k *2 years (2018 & 2019) = $1.2M /5 = $240k/year against the cap. 

As I understand it, most coaches have a clause in their contracts that say they get paid less by the original team if they get a new job. More like a 'top up' number to pay the difference between the original contract and their new contract with their new team. That would significantly reduce the cap hit. 

[Noeller]

There is also a Mulligan for each team after they brought in the coach's salary cap. The Argos can use their one. 

[Jesse]

1 hour ago, Noeller said:

There is also a Mulligan for each team after they brought in the coach's salary cap. The Argos can use their one. 

That's just for salary cap purposes though. Hard pill to swallow if they're paying three guys.

[HardCoreBlue]

I think Pinball cleans house from top to bottom, puts his stamp on things. Nothing untouched.

[Fan Boy]

37 minutes ago, Jesse said:

That's just for salary cap purposes though. Hard pill to swallow if they're paying three guys.

For MLSE this is not a lot of money. Leafs and Raptors are huge moneybags. A little coin spillage would deal with Argos salary issues. The embarassment of empty seats is more of an issue. 

[JCon]

[Geebrr]

As lazy a player as I can remember 

[Bomber_fanaddict]

15 minutes ago, JCon said:

I really hope this is the last stop for DC. If he couldnt revive his little bit of success he had with the Riders, with Mike Reilly throwing him the ball I dont know where else he would fit in.

[Noeller]

11 minutes ago, Geebrr said:

As lazy a player as I can remember 

I've heard Doug Brown say some "I know things, but I can't really say it on the air" stuff during broadcasts, and I think it would be really fun to drink scotch (he's a scotch guy...) with DB97 and ask him what he really thinks about Duron Carter....

[Rod Black]

3 hours ago, Bomber_fanaddict said:

I really hope this is the last stop for DC. If he couldnt revive his little bit of success he had with the Riders, with Mike Reilly throwing him the ball I dont know where else he would fit in.

D (bag) Carter is my nominee for Fans Choice Award of Most Detested Player, ever. 

Edited November 9, 2019 by Rod Black

[66 Chevelle]

Carter cut?  wow, didn't see that coming... said no one, ever... 

[Booch]

Probably was his swan song this yr. Cant see him back anywhere next yr

[rebusrankin]

XFL?

[White Out]

Star seemingly in alignment for MOS to go to Toronto. I can't say I'm bothered by it.

[SpeedFlex27]

If we have a strong playoff run & win the West, O'Shea will be back. if  It's a quick exit, I don't think Walters can sell the majority of the fanbase on another three years of the guy. There's a small but vocal group (some here) that think O"Shea is a great coach but they're in the minority. I think coaches have to be judged on post season success not just good regular seasons. O'Shea has never had a great season as a coach. A bunch of good ones. Not great. Hence, his losing record. He's never had a couple of dominant season to offset the dreadful ones. 

Edited November 9, 2019 by SpeedFlex27

[White Out]

hey, if we win the Grey Cup, I'll  roll out the red carpet for MOS.

It's time to **** or get off the pot, though.

[J5V]

O'Shea has done a lot of good things here and he gets props for that. He brought us back up to a winning standard and he learned to be a head coach. Fair exchange. If he wants to go back home to Toronto then I wish him all the best. There's just the matter of a little bit of unfinished business here to take care of. Go Bombers!

[J5V]

My adrenaline is already flowing and I'm not going to sleep well. By game time tomorrow I'll be a burn-out. If we win the stakes only get higher. Such are the CFL playoffs. Go Bombers Go!

[SpeedFlex27]

1 hour ago, J5V said:

O'Shea has done a lot of good things here and he gets props for that. He brought us back up to a winning standard and he learned to be a head coach. Fair exchange. If he wants to go back home to Toronto then I wish him all the best. There's just the matter of a little bit of unfinished business here to take care of. Go Bombers!

Good things. That's the key phrase. Not great. 

Edited November 10, 2019 by SpeedFlex27